Gun Control Debate - Albuquerque, NM

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#1
Sep 23, 2010
 
Many reasons, but more important is who is behind this poll, Denish most likely but maybe Susana too.

I have a right as an American to own a gun, or two or more to defend my property and family.

Why not start punishing the crooks who cannot legally own them, there are many laws on that but none get enforced.

Time to leave us law abiding citizens alone and start punishing the criminals who use guns.

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#2
Sep 23, 2010
 
It is a God given right, as well as a constitutional right as an American citizen, to own firearms to not only protect myself and family but my country as well.
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Sep 24, 2010
 
"NO"

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Sep 24, 2010
 
You are not going to deter or lessen crime by making guns illegal. Then only LEO's and criminals will have guns, and that will put the public at even greater risk because guns are not going to go away. They'll just go underground, which is where criminals get them now. The last place a criminal will get a gun is at a gun show.

BTW, the next NM Gun & Knife show is coming up in another week, Oct 2/3 @ the Fairgrounds.$1 off admission coupon in todays Journal, last page inside.

“I ain't afraid of no ghosts.”

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Sep 24, 2010
 
Do I support a ban? Hell no! That said, I believe that there are certain weapons civilians shouldn't have access to, such as assault weapons (note that assault rifles aren't technically assault weapons, however grenade launchers are...).

By and large, the majority of owners (and I mean legal owners) are responsible with their weapons, it's the ones that aren't that make the news and make it harder for the good ones.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

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#6
Sep 24, 2010
 
This one of the fundamental Constitutional rights. Unless you can change the Constitution, states, cities have no jurisdiction over gun bans.

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#7
Sep 24, 2010
 
CornDogz wrote:
You are not going to deter or lessen crime by making guns illegal. Then only LEO's and criminals will have guns, and that will put the public at even greater risk because guns are not going to go away. They'll just go underground, which is where criminals get them now. The last place a criminal will get a gun is at a gun show.
BTW, the next NM Gun & Knife show is coming up in another week, Oct 2/3 @ the Fairgrounds.$1 off admission coupon in todays Journal, last page inside.
Ask any Aussie about how their gun ban, enacted in 1996, affected their country. This has been aroun a while and is still just as true.

The following is a synopsis of an interview conducted by Ginny Simone with Keith Tidswell of Australia's Sporting Shooters Association. The entire interview is available as "Surprise, Surprise" in the "Archive News" section of:

http://www.nralive.com/

One year after gun-owners were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, including semi-automatic .22 rifles and shotguns, a program costing the government over 500 million dollars, the results are in...

A dramatic increase in criminal activity has been experienced. Gun control advocates respond "Just wait... we'll be safer... you'll see...".

OBSERVABLE FACT, AFTER 12 MONTHS OF DATA:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2%
Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6%
Australia-wide, armed-robberies are up 44%(yes, FORTY-FOUR PERCENT)
In the state of Victoria, homicides-with-firearms are up 300%
Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in homicides-with-firearms (changed dramatically in the past 12 months)

Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in armed-robbery-with-firearms (changed dramatically in the past 12 months)
There has been a dramatic increase in breakins-and-assaults-of- the-elderly

At the time of the ban, the Prime Minister said "self-defense is not a reason for owning a firearm" From 1910 to present, homicides in Australia had averaged about 1.8-per-100,000 or lower, a safe society by any standard. The ban has destroyed Australia's standings in some international sport shooting competitions

The membership of the Australian Sports Shooting Association has risen to 112,000, a 200% increase, in response to the ban and as an attempt to organize against further controls, which are expected.

Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns". Their response has been to "wait longer".

"...The best organization you've got there, the biggest organization you've got there is the NRA. We don't have an organization that size. We didn't have an organization that size, and as a consequence, we suffered. And we hope that you don't suffer..."

--Keith Tidswell
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Sep 24, 2010
 
Ask any Aussie about how their gun ban, enacted in 1996, affected their country. This has been aroun a while and is still just as true.

Keep in mind who was behind that gun law, the same person who is backing elephant ears and the clintons and others, a man who is not even an American and his side kick, probably his mistress.

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Sep 24, 2010
 
Australia had gained the international distinction of having the second highest crime rate in the world (after England, which also has strict gun control and confiscation laws).

Sadly, now when the populace rises up to throw the incumbents out in Australia, they'll be forced to use rocks for ammunition. Man, I hope we never come to that here in America.

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Sep 24, 2010
 
JP Niner wrote:
Australia had gained the international distinction of having the second highest crime rate in the world (after England, which also has strict gun control and confiscation laws).
Sadly, now when the populace rises up to throw the incumbents out in Australia, they'll be forced to use rocks for ammunition. Man, I hope we never come to that here in America.
We have a chance to start voting out all those anti-gun corrupt politicians soon and sure hope everyone regardless of which party they belong to does just that.
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Sep 24, 2010
 
No
WorkingStiff

Albuquerque, NM

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#12
Sep 24, 2010
 
Gun Control: Take a semi deep breathe and hold. Gently squeeze the trigger until the gun fires. Throughout this whole process hold the weapon firmly. Repeat. - Gun control.

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Sep 24, 2010
 
Silk_the_Absent1 wrote:
Do I support a ban? Hell no! That said, I believe that there are certain weapons civilians shouldn't have access to, such as assault weapons (note that assault rifles aren't technically assault weapons, however grenade launchers are...).
By and large, the majority of owners (and I mean legal owners) are responsible with their weapons, it's the ones that aren't that make the news and make it harder for the good ones.
I agree with that. I don't think(and no, right now I can't think of the proper names) that oozies and machine guns should be available to the general public. If you can't stop or kill what you're shooting at with a traditional or semi that only holds a dozen or so, you either need to work on your aim or you are up to no good!

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Sep 24, 2010
 
Just left of right wrote:
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I agree with that. I don't think(and no, right now I can't think of the proper names) that oozies and machine guns should be available to the general public. If you can't stop or kill what you're shooting at with a traditional or semi that only holds a dozen or so, you either need to work on your aim or you are up to no good!
True, but remember too that one well placed shot can kill as easily as 15 can. Yet I agree that in general, a fully auto, regardless of type, serve no real purpose for the vast majority of gun owners. I'm partial to semi's myself.

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Sep 24, 2010
 
CornDogz wrote:
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True, but remember too that one well placed shot can kill as easily as 15 can. Yet I agree that in general, a fully auto, regardless of type, serve no real purpose for the vast majority of gun owners. I'm partial to semi's myself.
Yep, me too! Soooooo, you've been kinda scarce lately. Is everything alright?
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#16
Sep 24, 2010
 
Hell no, it is our right.!!!

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Santa Fe, NM

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#17
Sep 24, 2010
 
My Bianchi holster in cross-draw position, and my right hand give me all the gun control I need. I prefer a double action revolver to a semi.
Robert Schroeder

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#18
Sep 24, 2010
 
Its our right and our protection.
sunshine

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#19
Sep 24, 2010
 
what good will making guns illegal do?

the bad guys already carry guns, and guess what....they are almost always illegal guns, they are either stolen or the person is a criminal already who isnt suppose to own a gun or even be around them.

so by banning guns, all you would be doing is keeping the people who buy guns for protection and hunting from owning one, after all, these are the people who are carrying the gun legally and have gone through the process of getting a gun, background check and all that stuff.

it just dont make sense
WorkingStiff

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#20
Sep 24, 2010
 
Lobo Viejo wrote:
My Bianchi holster in cross-draw position, and my right hand give me all the gun control I need. I prefer a double action revolver to a semi.
You know, I have to agree. ACPs are very nice but I just love the feel and the recoil of my 44 magnum.

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