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CallItAsISeeIt

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Jan 6, 2012
 
The man is "bought and paid for"... All one needs to do is take the time to follow his political career. It disgusts me that my party is pushing him so hard. Romney is no better however... I've been studying them over the last 3 months.(NOT listening to MSM news but actually doing the research).. By process of elimination I've just about made up my mind to support Ron Paul. He appears to be the only HONEST, REASONABLE and LOGICAL candidate with a pristine record spanning decades. Clearly he's not afraid to stand in the face of what we've all been so blatantly able to witness going on in Washington. This country is in trouble and we need a leader who has the character and fortitude it will take to lead us back to the free and prosperous nation we once were.
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Jan 7, 2012
 
http://spreadingsantorum.com/

found this amusing
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#3
Jan 7, 2012
 
Rick Santorum wants to ban butt seckz. 90% of the American population would be in violation of the law.

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Jan 9, 2012
 
Yes, and it's SOOO appropriate!

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Jan 9, 2012
 
If you're supporting Paul then you need some more research. The man is a fraud and a racist. He'd be a disaster as a president.

Honest? The same Paul that said he supported term limits, "But not for myself."?

Santorum is scum, but the entire GOP line up is.
CallItAsISeeIt

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Jan 9, 2012
 
Bladesmith wrote:
If you're supporting Paul then you need some more research. The man is a fraud and a racist. He'd be a disaster as a president.
Honest? The same Paul that said he supported term limits, "But not for myself."?
Santorum is scum, but the entire GOP line up is.
Oh please... Stop spreading such B.S. about Dr. Paul... Apparently you don't do your research because it appears that you're the only person making such ignorant statements. If you're going to make a statement then you have an obligation to submit proof of your accusation. So, do so or sit down....

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Jan 9, 2012
 
CallItAsISeeIt wrote:
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Oh please... Stop spreading such B.S. about Dr. Paul... Apparently you don't do your research because it appears that you're the only person making such ignorant statements. If you're going to make a statement then you have an obligation to submit proof of your accusation. So, do so or sit down....
No Problem! Read on. http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/angry-whi...
Pauls own comment on his "idol" MLK show Paul for the lying hypocrite he is.
Paul can't hide from his racist past.

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Jan 9, 2012
 
CallItAsISeeIt wrote:
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Oh please... Stop spreading such B.S. about Dr. Paul... Apparently you don't do your research because it appears that you're the only person making such ignorant statements. If you're going to make a statement then you have an obligation to submit proof of your accusation. So, do so or sit down....
More you say? Here ya go.

I like Ron Paul.

A lot. He has integrity, consistency (not always a good thing—views can and should evolve, open-mindedness is a virtue, too), his values are clear. He’s pro-Wikileaks, pro-OWS, pro-legalization, anti-war, anti-SOPA, and anti-fascist state BS.

Here’s everything we’ve blogged up about him, lately (we give him a lot of love on elephant).

But I won’t vote for him. Why? Easy:

1. He’s anti-gay marriage (supports DOMA)

2. He’s a young earth creationist

3. He’s a climate change denier

4. He believes that America, founded on principles of freedom of worship by many less-than-Christian framers, is a Christian country.

5. Worse, he believes that separation of church and state is a myth

6. He is against net neutrality (you know, liberty online)

7. He believes the civil rights act had a negative impact on the country

8. His stance on safety-nets (none, please)

9. His stance on student aid (do away with it)

10. His stance on health care (including Medicare, Medicaid)

11. His stance on abortion (goodbye, Roe v. Wade)

12. He would shutter the EPA (goodbye environmental health regulations, hello toxic daily life for our children)

13. His stance on Social Security (a hindrance to freedom)

14. His stance on taxes on the super-rich (no, thank you)

15. His stance on financial regulations (none, please)

16. His lack of support for renewable energy

17. He would close the Department of Education

18. He wouldn’t be able to bring the troops home:“Closing bases and withdrawing troops is an expensive process, and the DoD isn’t going to get very far if Congress forbids them from spending any money on it. It’s the exact same problem that prevented Obama from closing Guantanamo Bay.”

19. He signed the Pro-Life Presidential pledge, which includes a vow to only nominate pro-life judges to the Court. Generally, serious presidential candidates should refuse to sign all pledges, since they remove the rights of citizens in a democracy to see their wishes represented, and make their reps beholden to outside interests.

20. Given his ground game, he’d be tough for President Obama to beat. A lot of liberals, including myself, would be tempted to vote Paul. I’d rather Obama get to bat around damaged-goods Newt or wooden-1%er Mitt.

http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/12/20-rea...

At least Santorum is open and obvious in his insanity.
CallItAsISeeIt

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Jan 9, 2012
 
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No Problem! Read on. http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/angry-whi...
Pauls own comment on his "idol" MLK show Paul for the lying hypocrite he is.
Paul can't hide from his racist past.
Oh, I see.. A "Pro-Obama" website.. That is NOT evidence.. That is OPINION..

Even the NAACP as well as the ACLU came out and stated that this was nothing more than a SMEAR campaign against Dr. Paul. You're a complete idiot.
It was a FAILED attempt to use the black community to further and agenda... "FAILED"...

The black community didn't fall for it...and they RESENT the attempt by the other candidates to use them.

Obviously you've been oblivious to what's taken place over the last 6 weeks....

TRUTH be told - Dr. Ron Paul has ALWAYS stated that "the governments War on Drugs VICTIMIZED MINORITIES the most" and has fought to stop that. You might want to do some much more ACCURATE research and actually SEE/LISTEN what the man himself states. There are videos of the mans political career all over and there's even a few from 1988 where he talks about these laws being enacted to target minorities.

Dr. Paul was caring for black women and delivering babies in black communities for FREE during the time of segregation. That's NOT something that a racist would have even attempted, much less done. YES, there is ALSO video testimony regarding this FACT as well.

You have presented nothing but bullshit from very ill-informed and Pro-other candidate site...
When you actually have real evidence and not smear bullshit stories you'll be listened to...

Go get your facts straight..
CallItAsISeeIt

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Jan 9, 2012
 
Bladesmith wrote:
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I like Ron Paul.
1. He’s anti-gay marriage (supports DOMA)
"Homophobe? You Decide...."
POP QUIZ:

Out of the republican candidates running for the primary this year, who is the only candidate that:

1. Voted for the repeal of Don't-Ask-Don't-Tell last year (one of only five GOP House members to do so)

2. Voted (both in 2004 & 2006) against G.W.Bush's federal version of Prop 8 (FMA), nullifying all marriages between same sex couples in all states.

3. Is firmly against a constitutional amendment that would define marriage as being solely between a man and woman, or ban gay marriage.

If you answered Ron Paul, then you've done your research. The fact is, the media has been working overtime to pin Dr. Paul as being a homophobe, or anti-gay in some form. They've been drudging up quotes written by someone else, some twenty years ago, that were submitted in a newsletter he published. Quotes he's repeatedly disavowed. At the same time, they remain silent on his thirty year voting record as a staunch supporter of civil liberties, and the facts listed above.

Critics often cite Dr. Paul's support of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) as proof that he opposes gay marriage. Unfortunately, DOMA is not a clear-cut piece of legislation. Yes, part of the act defines marriage as between a man and woman. But it also prohibits the federal government from forcing one state to recognize marriage legislation passed in another state. Presumably, this is the portion he supports, as he's argued that the federal government should not force one state to comply with another state’s legislation. He went on to co-sponsor the We the People Act, which would essentially remove the federal court’s jurisdiction to arbitrate on the same-sex marriage debate.

Obviously, this legislation would have still left federal privileges & benefits for opposite-sex marriages intact, resulting in a de facto type of discrimination against same-sex marriages. There's little doubt, however, that Ron Paul would support decoupling all federal privileges & benefits from the notion of marriage, and leave the matter entirely to the states.

Whether you agree with this stance or not, it's grossly distorted to label it as homophobic. Federalist, yes! Libertarian, perhaps. But not anti-gay. In an era where it's like throwing red-meat to red voters to espouse the "sanctity of marriage," Dr. Paul has the courage and conviction to argue that it's none of the federal government’s business to tell us who we can and cannot marry. Even if saying that loses him votes. Wouldn't a homophobe prefer to toe the party line, just like all the other candidates do? You decide.
CallItAsISeeIt

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Jan 9, 2012
 
Bladesmith wrote:
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I like Ron Paul.
A lot. He has integrity, consistency (not always a good thing—views can and should evolve, open-mindedness is a virtue, too), his values are clear. He’s pro-Wikileaks, pro-OWS, pro-legalization, anti-war, anti-SOPA, and anti-fascist state BS.

2. He’s a young earth creationist
I happen to be an Atheist and can assure you that you're not going to get an Atheist near the White House for some time.. That's truly not a viable reason not to vote for the man. It's been proven over and again that he does NOT use his personal religious beliefs in his work. He is a clear Constitutionalist.. I can't help but appreciate that about him as well, even if he chooses to personally believe in Creation.
presto the clown

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#12
Jan 9, 2012
 
This ron paul run every time the elections roll around is an ego stroke for him like it was for ralph nader and ross perot Paul has no chance. A congressman isn't qualified experience wise for the highest office the way a Gov or Sen would be either.

Newt is one of the biggest scumbags to come out of DC

Santorum is a demogague.

Perry and Bachman are lighweight idiots--not worth a second notice.

Romney is a cardboard cutout career politician along the lines of john kerry or bob dole.

I'm not a huge Obama fan but with the Repub field it looks like Obama may win again.
CallItAsISeeIt

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Jan 9, 2012
 
presto the clown wrote:
This ron paul run every time the elections roll around is an ego stroke for him like it was for ralph nader and ross perot Paul has no chance. A congressman isn't qualified experience wise for the highest office the way a Gov or Sen would be either.
Well, you're wrong. Very wrong. Not sure what you *think* qualifies one to run this country, but the man is an EXPERT on American History as well as an EXPERT on the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION... The man has spent over 2 decades in Washington as a Congressman.
(Not so amazingly, if any question arises w/any of the other candidates that involves an important legal/constitutional question, they have ALL turned to Dr. Paul for the answer. Romney just did it again during the last debate in New Hampshire)

And your idea of "qualifications" are???
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Jan 9, 2012
 
I think all of the candidates suck and will continue to suck until it becomes possible for a normal person to run for president. It's not about who has the know-how to run this country. It's about who has the deepest pockets, the most friends, and the dirtiest smear campaign. You shouldn't have to be a multi-millionaire to be a viable candidate for the white house.

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Jan 9, 2012
 
CallItAsISeeIt wrote:
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Well, you're wrong. Very wrong. Not sure what you *think* qualifies one to run this country, but the man is an EXPERT on American History as well as an EXPERT on the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION... The man has spent over 2 decades in Washington as a Congressman.
(Not so amazingly, if any question arises w/any of the other candidates that involves an important legal/constitutional question, they have ALL turned to Dr. Paul for the answer. Romney just did it again during the last debate in New Hampshire)
And your idea of "qualifications" are???
Someone who ISN'T going to gut the systems and programs that protect us from the wealthy and corporations, or keep the poor elderly and indigent alive.

You may think it's ok for private landowners, fishermen and so forth to try and sue BP for their oil spill, but it won't work and the only ones who can ARE the govt.

Let Paul take his nonsense to say, Somalia and create his Libertarian utopia there. If it works (And I wager he'd be dead in a week), I'll be the first to apologize.

Paul's biggest fans are groups like the John Birch Society, The KKK, and StormFront. His writings are chock full of racism, and if he's too damn stupid to take a look at what he's slapping his signature on, then he's too stupid to run the country.
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Jan 9, 2012
 
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Someone who ISN'T going to gut the systems and programs that protect us from the wealthy and corporations, or keep the poor elderly and indigent alive.
You may think it's ok for private landowners, fishermen and so forth to try and sue BP for their oil spill, but it won't work and the only ones who can ARE the govt.
Let Paul take his nonsense to say, Somalia and create his Libertarian utopia there. If it works (And I wager he'd be dead in a week), I'll be the first to apologize.
Paul's biggest fans are groups like the John Birch Society, The KKK, and StormFront. His writings are chock full of racism, and if he's too damn stupid to take a look at what he's slapping his signature on, then he's too stupid to run the country.
Please run for president.
CallItAsISeeIt

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Jan 10, 2012
 
Bladesmith wrote:
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Someone who ISN'T going to gut the systems and programs that protect us from the wealthy and corporations, or keep the poor elderly and indigent alive.
You may think it's ok for private landowners, fishermen and so forth to try and sue BP for their oil spill, but it won't work and the only ones who can ARE the govt.
Let Paul take his nonsense to say, Somalia and create his Libertarian utopia there. If it works (And I wager he'd be dead in a week), I'll be the first to apologize.
Paul's biggest fans are groups like the John Birch Society, The KKK, and StormFront. His writings are chock full of racism, and if he's too damn stupid to take a look at what he's slapping his signature on, then he's too stupid to run the country.
You're seriously full of shit...and I think most would agree that if YOU'RE to ignorant to have FACTS to back up your smear claims, then you should sit down and shut up... Thanks...
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Jan 11, 2012
 
CallItAsISeeIt wrote:
The man is "bought and paid for"... All one needs to do is take the time to follow his political career. It disgusts me that my party is pushing him so hard. Romney is no better however... I've been studying them over the last 3 months.(NOT listening to MSM news but actually doing the research).. By process of elimination I've just about made up my mind to support Ron Paul. He appears to be the only HONEST, REASONABLE and LOGICAL candidate with a pristine record spanning decades. Clearly he's not afraid to stand in the face of what we've all been so blatantly able to witness going on in Washington. This country is in trouble and we need a leader who has the character and fortitude it will take to lead us back to the free and prosperous nation we once were.
I totally agree...nice post!
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Feb 11, 2012
 
The article is obviously slanted. For crying out loud the picture gives it away.. If you want the truth, read the comments :-) Ron Paul is a hero for any American or any race. He stands unbiased on the Constitution! People love him for his honesty and black folk have figured it out that he's anything but racist. I encourage you to quit feeding of the bottom and research the real issues sir.
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#20
Feb 11, 2012
 
No matter what people try to do to discredit Ron Paul, his base keeps growing! There's an American intellectual revolution going on and if you want to live in a free country, then I highly suggest you get on board. Otherwise, you can get any one else in the oval office and remain in oppression. If anyone supports bills like the Patriot Act and more recently NDAA, then they continue laying the groundwork for fascism. Ron Paul is the only one standing up against such tyranny.. the media keeps everyone feeding off the bottom with topics such as racism, rather than the real issues regarding our freedoms. WAKE UP! http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/is-the...

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