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Jerseyboy for life

Elkhart, IN

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#162
Sep 19, 2012
 
no big O wrote:
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Granted there is no hard evidence of being born homosexual... or heterosexual.... However there is much ancidotal evidence for both.
You imply it is a choice.... tell me when did you choose to be hetero. Not when did you first get a woody upon seeing the bumps in suzys sweater... but when did you sit down, look at all factors, weight your options and then choose to be hetero?
Dont worry,,, I really do not expect a hard answer from you because
A) no one on your side has answered that question
B) the answer is obvious. There was no choice.
You can't see the forest for the trees.The Left has it and us devided,right and left,almost like blue and gray of the silver war erea.Thats the goal of the left.And you have fallen for it hook line and sinker.I was taught to be straight,from what I saw as a child living in a hetro sexual home.I was also told it was wrong from the clergy,and from reading "GODS HOLY WORD!."And I'm not on anyones side thank you!.I don't need a side to brainwash me into my beliefs sir.I chose my own path,I have been exposed to alot in my life,I have made the choice not to ingage in a ot of things that I felt was "wrong",and having same sex was was not my quest in life.When I was about six yrs old living in Burlington,an older boy took my bow and arrow from me and said if I sucked something he would give it back.I ran,I knew it was wrong,I felt scared,and that experience haunted me for a long time.And society was better off when it wasn't accepted,because we will pay a serious wrath because of it,and it might be accuring as we speak with all of the crap that is happening to us,and our Nations decay.We were once harold,and admired,now we are the laughing stalk of the World.We have become not revered or feared,but attacked by less opponets then ourselves, and might even be defeated by them, much like Rome was,because we're so simular now..........
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#163
Sep 19, 2012
 
Jerseyboy for life wrote:
<quoted text>You can't see the forest for the trees.The Left has it and us devided,right and left,almost like blue and gray of the silver war erea.Thats the goal of the left.And you have fallen for it hook line and sinker.I was taught to be straight,from what I saw as a child living in a hetro sexual home.I was also told it was wrong from the clergy,and from reading "GODS HOLY WORD!."And I'm not on anyones side thank you!.I don't need a side to brainwash me into my beliefs sir.I chose my own path,I have been exposed to alot in my life,I have made the choice not to ingage in a ot of things that I felt was "wrong",and having same sex was was not my quest in life.When I was about six yrs old living in Burlington,an older boy took my bow and arrow from me and said if I sucked something he would give it back.I ran,I knew it was wrong,I felt scared,and that experience haunted me for a long time.And society was better off when it wasn't accepted,because we will pay a serious wrath because of it,and it might be accuring as we speak with all of the crap that is happening to us,and our Nations decay.We were once harold,and admired,now we are the laughing stalk of the World.We have become not revered or feared,but attacked by less opponets then ourselves, and might even be defeated by them, much like Rome was,because we're so simular now..........
"I was taught to be straight,from what I saw as a child living in a hetro sexual home.I was also told it was wrong from the clergy,and from reading "GODS HOLY WORD!"

So exactly what classes did you take that told your body to be attracted to the opposite sex?... Do homosexuals take different classes. I mean most (probably 99%) of adult homosexuals came from heterosexual homes. Most of those were exposed to the same things you were that "taught" you to be straight. Yet they didn't get the urge to be attracted to the opposite sex.
Face it you were not taught anything. You observed nothing more or nothing less than the homosexuals did growing up. At puberty you began to notice the opposite sex. Your dad didnt tell you "son now that you have hair round your penis, you must start liking girls" It was an innate feeling which can not be taught.

"I was also told it was wrong from the clergy,and from reading "GODS HOLY WORD!."And I'm not on anyones side thank you!.I don't need a side to brainwash me into my beliefs sir.I chose my own path,"

You realize you are talking out both sides of your mouth here. First you say you were taught, that the church taught you... Then you say you were not brainwashed... you made your own decision... which is it did you make your decision or did someone tell you what you should do?....
You are most certainly are on one side. The side that wants to deny U.S. citizens equal rights simply because they are gay. A very un american side.

"I have made the choice not to ingage in a ot of things that I felt was "wrong",and having same sex was was not my quest in life."

Thanks for admiring it is not a choice. By saying it was a "feeling" you admit it was not a conscious decision but an innate senses that you were hetero.

"When I was about six yrs old living in Burlington,an older boy took my bow and arrow from me and said if I sucked something he would give it back.I ran,I knew it was wrong,I felt scared,and that experience haunted me for a long time"

First... if this is true... I do feel sorry for your experience which obviously scarred your psyche.
Second... You were a victom of sexual abuse... not homosexuality.
Third... Seek some help dealing with the issues this obviously caused.

As for the rest of your spew,,
Do you know how many times in history the downfall has been blamed on something... women voting, rock and roll, kids w long hair.. blacks getting equal rights... now homosexuality.... Thing is .. none ever were or will ever be proven. Just another paranoid concept.
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Utica, NY

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Sep 19, 2012
 
Jerseyboy for life wrote:
<quoted text>You can't see the forest for the trees.The Left has it and us devided,right and left,almost like blue and gray of the silver war erea.Thats the goal of the left.And you have fallen for it hook line and sinker.I was taught to be straight,from what I saw as a child living in a hetro sexual home.I was also told it was wrong from the clergy,and from reading "GODS HOLY WORD!."And I'm not on anyones side thank you!.I don't need a side to brainwash me into my beliefs sir.I chose my own path,I have been exposed to alot in my life,I have made the choice not to ingage in a ot of things that I felt was "wrong",and having same sex was was not my quest in life.When I was about six yrs old living in Burlington,an older boy took my bow and arrow from me and said if I sucked something he would give it back.I ran,I knew it was wrong,I felt scared,and that experience haunted me for a long time.And society was better off when it wasn't accepted,because we will pay a serious wrath because of it,and it might be accuring as we speak with all of the crap that is happening to us,and our Nations decay.We were once harold,and admired,now we are the laughing stalk of the World.We have become not revered or feared,but attacked by less opponets then ourselves, and might even be defeated by them, much like Rome was,because we're so simular now..........
Can you explain what the Silver War Era is?
Voice of Reason

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#165
Sep 19, 2012
 
Jerseyboy for life wrote:
<quoted text>Well atleast I won't worry about being gang raped by a bunch of gays while I'm there,so it truely will be 'HEAVEN THEN!....I think Gods favorite color is white for his robes,not pink robes with blood and semen all over them..........
Do you have anything to stand on besides religion and your exttremist homophobia? I noticed you ignored my last question to you that clearly debunked your so-called logic. People like you prove to me daily that same sex marriage will be a reality because all you have is crazy. Go take your meds. Do you know The Situation?
Jerseyboy for life

Goshen, IN

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#166
Sep 22, 2012
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
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Do you have anything to stand on besides religion and your exttremist homophobia? I noticed you ignored my last question to you that clearly debunked your so-called logic. People like you prove to me daily that same sex marriage will be a reality because all you have is crazy. Go take your meds. Do you know The Situation?
Yea ,it's crazy,politically driven,gay agenda,doesn't exsist in any other life form on earth,a virus with no cure,tainted blood supply,your own cancer,only drugged out freaks do it,bare no fruit other then the fruit cakes who do it,many families have been torn apart when their son or daughter brings home their twisted gay mates,schools are forced with the threat of lossing Government money if they don't teach it in their schools,ripped up bowels,lots of stds,foriegn objects extracted from strange area's,they hang out at sleazy places,and homo's really produce nothing that lives!,they only provide mutual masterbation, and are desease infested....And the Lord says that they are an abomination.I see them as very abhorent individuals, who get under our skin,and frankly very abnormal with the laws of nature....,You maybe newage,but your old news.......
Jerseyboy for life

Goshen, IN

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#167
Sep 22, 2012
 
Henry wrote:
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Can you explain what the Silver War Era is?
I msp,a fixed point in time brain dead Liberal!....much like the red and blue states inwhich the damnedocrats have us devided into now.....
Steve

Burlington, NJ

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#168
Sep 22, 2012
 
Henry wrote:
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Can you explain what the Silver War Era is?
It's called stupidity. What he meant was "Civil War Era", but he actually thinks it is pronounced Silver. He is the classic example of an uneducated conservative robot.
Jerseyboy for life

Goshen, IN

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#169
Sep 24, 2012
 
Steve wrote:
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It's called stupidity. What he meant was "Civil War Era", but he actually thinks it is pronounced Silver. He is the classic example of an uneducated conservative robot.
Liberal they are just so damn ignort,I get worked up dealing with their insanity and their constant hammering of an agenda that produces absolutely "NOTHING" and it goes against the laws of nature!,and nothing else on the planet does it, but brain dead humans looking for a thrill,and then they get politicized,and ram it down our throats with these twisted brain dead liberal judges,despite what the majority of Americans want,and they don't want gay marriage...And at one time the liar Ocommiebama didn't want it "EITHER!".But he Ocommiebama has been evolved now ,and sees the pink light.....So my mind gets ahead of my typing big deal,others do it too,and believe me ,I'm not loosing any sleep over a few gaffes,our sleazy preezy of the united steezy,and our vice sleaze has done their share of it.......so go smoke that liberal Obama zombie.........

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Glassboro, NJ

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Sep 24, 2012
 
Steve wrote:
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It's called stupidity. What he meant was "Civil War Era", but he actually thinks it is pronounced Silver. He is the classic example of an uneducated conservative robot.
I just thought it was a case of dyslexia for most of his misspellings, but going from "civil" to "silver" does seem like a bit of a stretch for that. XD

Since: Apr 12

Glassboro, NJ

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#171
Sep 28, 2012
 
Jerseyboy for life wrote:
<quoted text>Yea ,it's crazy,politically driven,gay agenda,doesn't exsist in any other life form on earth,a virus with no cure,tainted blood supply,your own cancer,only drugged out freaks do it,bare no fruit other then the fruit cakes who do it,many families have been torn apart when their son or daughter brings home their twisted gay mates,schools are forced with the threat of lossing Government money if they don't teach it in their schools,ripped up bowels,lots of stds,foriegn objects extracted from strange area's,they hang out at sleazy places,and homo's really produce nothing that lives!,they only provide mutual masterbation, and are desease infested....And the Lord says that they are an abomination.I see them as very abhorent individuals, who get under our skin,and frankly very abnormal with the laws of nature....,You maybe newage,but your old news.......
"Only drugged out freaks" you say? I personally know 5 gay college students who would beg to differ. I've only known 2 "drugged out" people in my entire life and both of them were straight... One was even homophobic... to a certain degree. That's just my personal experience though... maybe I'm in a special case or something?

And dude... One could argue that all of the human race is disease infested. And of the 8 total gay people I know, only one has an std and that was due to perinatal transmission. In fact, despite his preferences, he's yet to have sex at all. He just recently started dating his 2nd boyfriend and he's all up in a panic thinking that since he's older now, and dating an older guy this time, he might be expected to go all the way sooner than he'd like. Of course he's already told his new bf about his condition and when the time comes they'll go over all of the need precautions... But he's so adorable the way he fusses over whether he'd be any good at it. lol Although again... maybe I've somehow come across the only 8 "clean" gay people in the world, for all I know... as unlikely as that is.
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Cherry Hill, NJ

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#172
Oct 2, 2012
 
If "marriage" is a civil matter with legal implications it shouldn't be regulated by religious credos as that violates the First Amendment. This means limiting access to marriage violates the civil rights of citizens based your religious disapproval of their protected status.
Alternatively, if we define "marriage" as a purely religious ritual you're allowed to restrict access as your religion sees fit, but it should not entitle you to any civil or legal ramifications without it violating the aforementioned separation of church and state.

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Glassboro, NJ

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#173
Oct 5, 2012
 
I was just thinking, since it came up in another discussion... There seems to be some kind of misconception... I've always believed there was a distinction between the religious ideal that is marriage and the legal contract that we call "marriage" in this country. Is much of this disagreement stemming from these two separate things being overlapped in peoples minds? I mean... it's been obvious to me that these things were separate, so I carelessly assumed that others could see this distinction too... Like how in Christian marriage ceremonies, the two will say "til death do us part", meaning it's supposed to be a lasting bond, but legally they can break ties and go their separate ways through a divorce. Clearly the religious ideal and the legal contract are different matters... at least that's how I've always understood it... Is this where the problem,or at least one of the problems, lies?
Jerseyboy for life

Goshen, IN

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#174
Oct 9, 2012
 
no big O wrote:
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"I don't know snooky,but if he is a rational thinker and believer like me,he must be okay"
Your response proves you to be neither rational or a thinker.
".We were lucky to have grown up during a time when our folks told us not to talk to strangers, and go with them for a candy bar.But in todays sub-culture, we're told that queers are actually gays,and that they mean us no harm,but they poisened our blood supply,and they are infected with an incurable desease,but relatively harmless all the same."
A) Parents still tell their children that
B) What harm does the homosexual do to you?.... If you neighbor was a homosexual (male or female) how is that harm to you... if your childs teacher was ... how will that harm your child....(hint it wont)
C) Tainted blood went out early 90's. Blood is tested for hiv before use
D) HIV is spread more by hetero than homo. world wide... so are you afraid of heteros now?
E) What do you plan on doing with an HIV infected (very very small percentage of homosexual group, even smaller of hetero) person that would cause you to be at risk?. or is this dont ask dont tell
"The united way even pulled their support(contributions from donors) of the Boy Scouts ,because they wouldn't allow gays to be scout "
A) So the U.W. didnt support the boy scouts discrimination.... Good for them.
B) I guess it is only ok for businesses to support anti gay groups (like chick fil et and its donations) but when they don't support them it is an issue.
",could it be that gays eat little boys for lunch!!!.Yea!,let the fox in the hen house,not everyone is brain dead yet......How bazaar is that logic?.."
I agree very bazaar logic considering
A) more pedophiles are hetero than homo
B) homosexuals and pedophile are two different things...
One of these days you will surprise us with a real logical argument against ssm.... well one can hope at least
Never happen!,I'm not damnining my soul to a bunch of brain dead godless "LIBERALS"Who will lead you and others to the pit of "HELL"...I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD,Not a thereory!, based on a "LIE"WHICH HAS BEEN TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS OF LOWER EDUCATION AND WHATS POLITICALLY CORRECT!........Maybe if more Homosexuals would learn about the destructfulness of this lifestyle,they wouldn't attempted to indulge in its poison.....Homosexuals and pedophiles are two different animals,really!,what Libeeral book has that been established in?...I bet every queer has been raped or sodomized by an older person,some for kicks,some for money to buy drugs,some have been threatened not to tell etc....God or Mother Nature if you don't believe,created Adam and Eve,not Adam and Steve.....Good Night......Go Rot IN Hell
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#175
Oct 9, 2012
 
Jerseyboy for life wrote:
<quoted text>Never happen!,I'm not damnining my soul to a bunch of brain dead godless "LIBERALS"Who will lead you and others to the pit of "HELL"...I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD,Not a thereory!, based on a "LIE"WHICH HAS BEEN TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS OF LOWER EDUCATION AND WHATS POLITICALLY CORRECT!........Maybe if more Homosexuals would learn about the destructfulness of this lifestyle,they wouldn't attempted to indulge in its poison.....Homosexuals and pedophiles are two different animals,really!,what Libeeral book has that been established in?...I bet every queer has been raped or sodomized by an older person,some for kicks,some for money to buy drugs,some have been threatened not to tell etc....God or Mother Nature if you don't believe,created Adam and Eve,not Adam and Steve.....Good Night......Go Rot IN Hell
"LIBERALS"Who will lead you and others to the pit of "HELL"...I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD,Not a thereory!, based on a "LIE"WHICH HAS BEEN TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS OF LOWER EDUCATION AND WHATS POLITICALLY CORRECT!.......

You sound like an american version of the taliban you know that. Your book your beliefs is what we all should live by......

"Homosexuals would learn about the destructfulness of this lifestyle,they wouldn't attempted to indulge in its poison..."

And what " destruct fullness" would that be exactly......

"Homosexuals and pedophiles are two different animals,really!,what Libeeral book has that been established in?"

I know that people like you dont like to deal in f acts.. just what you make up to try to bolster your homophobia... but it is a proven fact that more cases of pedohilia are done by hetero than homo. It is a proven phsycological fact that pedophilia has nothing to do with homosexuality.... But again dont let the facts get in the way of your irrational r ant.

"...I bet every queer has been raped or sodomized by an older person,some for kicks,some for money to buy drugs,some have been threatened not to tell etc...."

right.. every single gay person... how stupid are you.....

God or Mother Nature if you don't believe,created Adam and Eve,not Adam and Steve.....

Here is the thing... homosexuality is in MANY MANY species of animals... So "god" or "mother nature" must have done something....

Then you really go childish by telling me to rot in hell... am I suppose to scared now little boy.. you cursed at me.. so you really must be a big angry person to fear.... more like a little boy who can not back up his arguments with facts... so he curses to make himself feel big...
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#176
Oct 11, 2012
 
reason - information wrote:
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Take a history lesson on the fall of the roman empire, and the greeks. I can think about 10 vague reasons why they both collapsed, and none of them have to do with homosexuality. Why you hatin so much? You a queer too? Get off the bandwagon and start thinking for yourself before you make yourself sound like any more of an idiot.
You need to spend a little more time on your history lesson

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