Gay Marriage Debate - Salisbury, NC

[TrryOh]

It's wrong and I can't stand looking at them.It sickened Jesus too,read the Bible.

[Dubya]

TrryOh wrote:

It's wrong and I can't stand looking at them.It sickened Jesus too,read the Bible.

Your ignorance is really pathetic. The fact is that Jesus had absolutely nothing to say about homosexuality, so don't put words in His mouth. And can you find anything but "it's wrong" to say? Take a look at over 1500 species of animals and you will find homosexuality in all. Do you think dogs and horses, much less humans, choose to be gay? If you want to complain, blame God! In the meantime, I suggest you keep your mouth shut; you won't appear to be quite as stupid as you appear above!

[TrryOh]

In later biblical tradition, Sodom and Gomorra were widely recognized symbols of immorality and of the judgment of God that falls on such immorality. Sodom and Gomorra are symbols of God’s terrifying judgment in Deut. 29:23; Isa. 1:9-10; 13:19; Jer. 49:18; 50:40; Ezek. 16:53-58; Amos 4:11; Zeph. 2:9; Matt. 10:15; Luke 17:29; Rom. 9:29; 2 Pet. 2:6; Jude 7 ... symbols of shameless immorality or unbridled sin in general in Isa. 3:9; Lam. 4:6; Ezek; 16:48; Jude 7 ... and symbols of foolish impotent rebellion (or unresponsiveness) against God, see Deut. 32:32; Jer. 23:14; Matt. 11:23-24; Luke 10:12; Rev. 11:8. The word sodomite has become, in the English language, a synonym for one who engages in certain kinds of (male) homosexual acts. For instance, the New American Standard Bible uses sodomites in 1 Kings 22:46 to refer to male cult prostitutes. This passage does not speak to “loving” same-sex relations because it does not conceive of same-sex relations as potentially loving. Instead, it associates same-sex relations with evil desire deserving of God’s most severe judgment.
Although nonsexual interpretations of this passage appear in Jer. 23;14, Ezek. 16:49-50, Wisdom of Solomon 10:8; Sirach 16:82; Jubilees 13:17 and the Babylonian Talmud (Sanh. 109a; Ket. 103a; BB 12b; Ab 5.10, and Erub. 49c), sexual interpretations of Genesis 19 appear to predominate in 2 Peter 2:6-10; Jude 7; Jubilees (7:20-21); 16:5-6; 20:5-6; 1 Enoch 10:4; 34:1-2; and in the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs (Naph. 3:4-5; 4:1; Asher 7:1; Benjamin 9:1; Levi 14:6); 3 Macc. 2:3; Philo’s De Abr. 26:134-136; Josephus’s Ant. 1.200 (cf. Contra Apionem 2.199); and Gen. Rabbah 50:7.This passage says that homosexual intercourse is an abomination and a perversion -- a perversion as bad as bestiality, or having sex with a woman while she’s having her period, or child sacrifice, or adultery. There is no passage in the Bible that is clearer than,“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.” This is a direct commandment prohibiting homosexual unions. This passage clearly associates homosexuality with perversion, including committed, loving same-sex relationships. Any “face-value” reading of the Bible must admit that Leviticus 18:22 prohibits sexual intercourse between men.Lev. 20:13 says that homosexual intercourse is an abomination worthy of the death penalty for both partners. Such a thing is as bad as adultery, or having sex with one’s stepmother, or having sex with one’s daughter-in-law, or being married to a woman and that woman’s mother at the same time, or having sex with an animal. Even though the passage suggests that homosexuals should be killed -- something the church today should not do -- the passage clearly calls homosexual intercourse an abomination and that persons who engage in such acts must be held accountable for his actions.

[TrryOh]

Loving, committed relationships are not in view here. The author is addressing the sin of having sex for its own sake (i.e., using another person, or animal, to meet one’s own selfish sexual needs). The context also makes clear that these are purity regulations designed to keep holy Israel separate from unholy Canaan. In light of Jesus’ rejection of purity codes and their effect of separating people groups, the Christian church no longer takes purity codes literally. Anyone who would claim that Leviticus 18:22 is clear and should regulate Christian ethical practice today needs to explain how or on what basis other regulations in the Holiness Code (Lev. 17-26) should not regulate Christian ethical practice today (cf. Lev. 20:9-16, 27; 24:16). It is not legitimate to willy-nilly pick and choose which verses one wants to take seriously and which one does not.The same considerations apply here as those above. A literal interpretation of this passage would require the death penalty for homosexual intercourse! Does the church wish seriously to propose this? On what basis do we answer this? According to the interpretation to the left, this passage could be taken to imply that other, more “natural” forms of bigamy or polygamy are okay. Within the Hebrew Bible itself we see a debate about purity issues in sexual or biological terms. Deut. 23:1-3 says,“No one whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off shall be admitted to the assembly of the LORD. Those born of an illicit union shall not be admitted.... Even to the tenth generation, none of their descendants shall be admitted.... No Ammonite or Moabite shall be admitted.... Even to the tenth generation, none of their descendants shall be admitted to the assembly of the LORD.” However, see also Ruth 4:17 and Isa. 56:4-5 for differing perspectives. The point is that the Levitical prohibitions against homosexual intercourse fit squarely in the same Old Testament purity concern that Deut. 23:1-8 does and that Jesus condemns in the New Testament.As with the story of Sodom and Gomorra above, this story has nothing to do with whether loving, committed monogamous homosexual or lesbian relationships are blessed by God, but rather with the perversity of gang rape, wanton lust, and (even worse, in that society), the sin of inhospitality. As in the story of Sodom and Gomorra, the old man’s willingness to offer to his neighbors his own virgin daughter as well as his guest’s concubine (sex slave) is portrayed as a noble thing to do -- a self-sacrificial recognition of the sacredness of hospitality to the stranger. In other words, the story underlines the heroic maintenance of the cultural tradition of hospitality as a sacred trust. This is a horrible and terrifying story -- horrible for its cavalier acceptance of the violence toward women that such a patriarchal society could produce. Biblical interpreters today have an obligation to stress that the moral lesson intended by this passage is not that patriarchal violence is legitimate, but that hospitality toward the stranger is a sacred trust. But even with such an interpretation, modern readers of the text cannot merely excuse the text’s apparent disregard for women or its implicit but terrifying acceptance of the “use” of women for sexual purposes. Thus, a proper appropriation of this terrifying and terrible story may be that believers in Yahweh have an obligation to take in and protect dishonored strangers. In our society, that would include any oppressed majority, such as women, or any persecuted minority, whether blacks or Asians or Hispanics or gays and lesbians themselves or persons with AIDS.You want to try that again,friend.

[TrryOh]

Leviticus 18
And finally:
You shall not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness while she is in her menstrual uncleanness. You shall not have sexual relations with your kinsman’s wife, and defile yourself with her. You shall not give any of your offspring to sacrifice them to Molech, and so profane the name of your God: I am the LORD. You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. You shall not have sexual relations with any animal and defile yourself with it, nor shall any woman give herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it: it is perversion.

[Dubya]

Talk about picking your verses willy nilly. How many adulterers have you stoned this week? How many children have you killed for disobedience to their parents? Have you ever eaten shrimp? You're a f*cking hypocrite so don't even try to impress me with your long winded bigotry.

[TrryOh]

Apparently you can't read either.Moses law expired.Never mind,queers have a mental issue anyway,I mean you like hot hairy man butts,and lick and stick each other in those places,what would I even want to justify how wrong it is for?I don't care about any of you.Shit pumpers are supposed to work at the waste treatment plants,or so I thought.Go ahead,I'm not into all this queer stuff,it sickens me.Jesus saw two men and was sickened too,and instructed them they will have to repent at his feet.So at least you get one more chance.

[Dubya]

TrryOh wrote:

Apparently you can't read either.Moses law expired.Never mind,queers have a mental issue anyway,I mean you like hot hairy man butts,and lick and stick each other in those places,what would I even want to justify how wrong it is for?I don't care about any of you.Shit pumpers are supposed to work at the waste treatment plants,or so I thought.Go ahead,I'm not into all this queer stuff,it sickens me.Jesus saw two men and was sickened too,and instructed them they will have to repent at his feet.So at least you get one more chance.

Your reply shows such bigotry it's not worth reading. It's quite clear you're nothing but an ignorant, bible thumping redneck. You're in for a rough future as gay rights becomes the law of the land. You can go to Iran or Uganda where you will find more or your kind.

[TrryOh]

Then stop reading it and go away.Oh,and look at the ballot.

[Dubya]

TrryOh wrote:

Then stop reading it and go away.Oh,and look at the ballot.

Wow!! One person voting!! What is the sound of one hand clapping? You got it: NOTHING.

[Dubya]

TrryOh wrote:

Then stop reading it and go away.Oh,and look at the ballot.

Oh, yes. Civil Rights should be put to a popular vote, you think. I suggest you read the U.S. Constitution, particularly the first 10 amendments, called the Bill of Rights. But then again, it would take a certain amount of intelligence...

[TrryOh]

1,896 support,2,264 against.I know you are spoiling for an online argument with me.But you won't get it.But what I see in this area and other where there are high concentrations of gay men is this.They wait in front of bars around closing times trying to make money.They sit out at the town parks at night,next day when I'm walking my dogs,used prophylactics laying where kids will soon be playing.Walk to the store at night,I have had to draw my gun in more than one's face,because they,you demand respect,but in many cases aren't willing to give respect.Go away I'm not interested,means go away,I'm not interested.
Most are unstable,something caused this,weather it be alcohol,drugs,prior abuse,whatever.Yes I know,many claim they were born that way,my guess it's low T levels and could have been corrected before the older fags made them.ALL young men and women are confused at some point,and without all this crap on TV,online and in public,they would have phased out of it.
3rd. and final paragraph.I could care less what consenting adults do behind closed doors,but I have arrested them in the men's room at the local truck stop,in cars and benches at town parks,and even inside a dumpster at a local KFC.So,I voted against it because in MY country,we are all entitled to our own opinion.In Bangcock,where you are from,people sell their babies,pimp out their daughters,eat cats and dogs and do all kinds of uncivilized shit claiming they need the money for food.
Whatever,so you are for them,and they make me sick.

[Dubya]

TrryOh wrote:

blah, blah, balh, and they make me sick.

Please, just get sick and shut up.

[TrryOh]

Boys will be boys right?We know all about Thailand.You can push your sick men on men agenda all you want,but you perverts really like young boys:

http://britishexpats.com/articles/thailand/ta...

[Dubya]

TrryOh wrote:

Boys will be boys right?We know all about Thailand.You can push your sick men on men agenda all you want,but you perverts really like young boys:
http://britishexpats.com/articles/thailand/ta...

When you can't think, change the subject or call names. Funny that you "think" you know all there is to being gay. Could be you're hiding something in the closet? Wanna come out and play?

[yeah]

TrryOh wrote:

It's wrong and I can't stand looking at them.It sickened Jesus too,read the Bible.

and shellfish are an abomination!

NEXT!

[TrryOh]

Those selfish shelfish.DAMN THEM!It's my friend from the HOP,daddy knows..........

[TrryOh]

Dubya wrote:

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When you can't think, change the subject or call names. Funny that you "think" you know all there is to being gay. Could be you're hiding something in the closet? Wanna come out and play?

Doesn't alter the fact that your country thrives on young boy prostitution!This goes all the way up to your highest ranking officials.And again,I could care less what you say to me or about me.My day is not going to end over some blogger that likes young boys.The sad part is,you homo's claim others are ignorant when we can plainly see if you are left to do as you please,you will do it anywhere and try to do it with anyone,minors included.
And I also stated that I don't care what people do in their own homes behind closed doors,because your public displays makes me sick.

[Dubya]

TrryOh wrote:

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Doesn't alter the fact that your country thrives on young boy prostitution!This goes all the way up to your highest ranking officials.And again,I could care less what you say to me or about me.My day is not going to end over some blogger that likes young boys.The sad part is,you homo's claim others are ignorant when we can plainly see if you are left to do as you please,you will do it anywhere and try to do it with anyone,minors included.
And I also stated that I don't care what people do in their own homes behind closed doors,because your public displays makes me sick.

Your ignorance is appalling. You claim to have such knowledge, but, once again, you know not of what you speak. Sex with minors has been outlawed in Thailand for years and is vigorously enforced. As such, the child prostitution industry has been driven out. So much with keeping up the news, you persist in your old fashioned mores and false "facts" so you can find some group to look down on and discriminate against.

I could go on about hill billy mentality in North Carolina, but I happen to know much about the state, and there is little to criticize. It is filled with warm, friendly people, it has a fantastic university system, and is a beautiful state, from the coast to the Blue Ridge Mountains. Besides, attacking someone's location is tacky.

[TrryOh]

Oh paleeeze!Chris Hanson and Dateline NBC were just there.It's alive and thriving in your country.You must the leader of the BangCOCK Chapter of The Man Boy Love Association.PERVERT!