Interesting point, but the issue of born that way is not as settled as you think. In any case it does not matter as far as the Civic case goes.Thank you for a well thought response Buzzcut, you make some good points. Of course we would never allow a pedophile to act. That involves innocent children who can't protect themselves. A pedophile does what they do knowing it's wrong and unnatural. Very often, they were in fact traumatized in the same way as children. Studies show that most pedophiles were victims themselves. Their victimizing children is a result of trauma not a physical biological difference. If you were to CT scan a pedophiles brain, it would likely look no different from yours or mine but if you scanned a gay or lesbians, it would look different. In addition, in police questioning, many pedophiles feel that what they're doing is wrong and unnatural, they admit it. Most do it to gain a sense of power over someone since they had no power as children. Remember, sex crimes are rarely ever about the actual sex act. What it amounts to is pedophiles do what they do mainly because of psychological trauma, gays are the way they are because of biological differences. With pedophiles, it is a choice but with gays, it is not.
Of course heterosexuality will always be the societal norm and a necessity to keep the human race going. I just wanted you to step into someone elses shoes in my scenario.
As have stated before the only reason I permit myself to be taxed to support marriage laws rather than demand that they be struck down is protect the vulnerable children, women, and society from men (and a few women) who will not live up to their responsibilities. Marriage laws are needed because of the INEQUALITY of the partners and the vulnerability of the children as well as woman partner.
Gays cannot create children NATURALLY and have no inherenet inequality. There is no REASON to HAVE a Marriage Arrangement for them. It was not designed for them and they are foolish to let the state define their relationship.
With the striking down of sodomy laws, gays can live and love as they choose. They just connot FORCE ME to PAY when they break up which they will do far more than heterosexual couples.
They can write a will to give their property away if they have no other obligations. They can get health care proxies. There is NO NEED for a STATE Sanctioned Marriage for them.
Feelings of love/lust between gays do not require the state to recognize their even monogamous relationship as marriage.
They should just be themselves and not try to usurp something that was created for others rather than them.
Why MUST they have a Marriage?
No one has shown me a VALID CIVIC reason for Gay Marriage. Their feelings are not worth putting a gun to my or anyone else's head to make us pay for enforcement.
Now on the flip side,
If we do allow Gay Marriage, then we should also allow Polygamy since there is NO REASON for Religious or little reason for Civic purposes NOT to allow Polygamy and even legalize prostitution once you have recognized gay marriage. Gay marriage is at the BOTTOM of the slippery slope, not a midpoint along the path.
Both of those are less evil religiously than gay marriage since neither of them was labelled an ABOMINATION. Both of them are certainly more NATURAL than gay marriage and have occurred many times in human history. Both of them have as good or better justification than gay marriage. Why should their rights be trampled? They are entitled to sexual freedom as well.
If we do allow gay marriage, then perhaps the government should completely stay out of the arena of sexual matters between consenting adults. While that is a good idea fron a liberty standpoint, the only problem with that is that now the enforcement of legitimate marriges among heterosexuals to ensure the children and women are not hurt becomes lost.