Gay Marriage Debate - Poplar Bluff, MO

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Since: Aug 08

San Francisco, CA

#374 Aug 16, 2010
Zumi wrote:
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No, the State CHOSE to be involved; it never HAD to be involved. Since it HAS chosen to become involved, many have assumed it's supposed to be that way.
And the fact is that what you call an imaginary simplistic marriage does not exist now, thanks to the intrusion of the State into the religious institution of marriage. But marriage existed long before that happened. And while it might have been simple, it was never simplistic (isn't now and never will be), and neither was it imaginary.
Until the State butted in.
So I take it you are a picker and chooser regarding the separation of church and state, since you seem to have a problem with the State getting out of the marriage business. See my comment about intellectual honesty in an earlier post.
Sorry, you lost me somewhere. I do NOT believe in any god or church, totally not relevant to me. The State controls marriage and should be impartial to whoever wishes to marry, despite what some wacko religious freaks might assume. Go do the Voodoo church thing if you want, just leave me out of all that insanity.....

“America, where are you now?”

Since: Dec 09

Wartime America

#376 Aug 16, 2010
But your comment suggest you believe the State SHOULD control marriage. My view is that it should not, as marriage is a religious institution and ceremony (even a Voodoo ceremony) and to remain true to the idea of separating church and State, the State needs to leave it alone.

Not saying it WILL happen, just that it should.

Since: Aug 08

San Francisco, CA

#377 Aug 16, 2010
Zumi wrote:
But your comment suggest you believe the State SHOULD control marriage. My view is that it should not, as marriage is a religious institution and ceremony (even a Voodoo ceremony) and to remain true to the idea of separating church and State, the State needs to leave it alone.
Not saying it WILL happen, just that it should.
hmmmmmm...ok, here is what I am trying to say...."marriage" is just a joining of two people in love...not required, but because of complex tax, pension, and property issues is the way the State recognizes these partnerships...The real issue is fairness in dealing with these issues. Of course I beleive in separation of church and state, others church, not mine. I could give a rip about all that religous crap. The fencepost out back is just a good a god as any...and worshiping it will give the same effect.

“America, where are you now?”

Since: Dec 09

Wartime America

#381 Aug 16, 2010
tinkerone wrote:
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hmmmmmm...ok, here is what I am trying to say...."marriage" is just a joining of two people in love...not required, but because of complex tax, pension, and property issues is the way the State recognizes these partnerships...The real issue is fairness in dealing with these issues. Of course I beleive in separation of church and state, others church, not mine. I could give a rip about all that religous crap. The fencepost out back is just a good a god as any...and worshiping it will give the same effect.
I do not disagree with the first part of what you have said. My point is that the State has no business in recognizing marriages OR not recognizing them. Due to tinkering with the tax code to promote or discourage this or that behavior (marriage, in the particular case), looking for new ways to generate revenue (requiring a license for a fee of X dollars) and so on, the State HAS injected itself into the issue, and it should not have.
seriously

Bell City, MO

#382 Aug 16, 2010
can we get tinkertone and umi zumi off of here and get back to the damn subject???

“America, where are you now?”

Since: Dec 09

Wartime America

#383 Aug 16, 2010
seriously wrote:
can we get tinkertone and umi zumi off of here and get back to the damn subject???
Can you remember what the subject was? We can: it's same-sex marriage. I say the State needs to stay out of marriages of all kinds -- same-sex or otherwise -- in any way, shape or form. Tinkerone can speak for himself.

And what part of this is not on the subject?
seriously

Bell City, MO

#384 Aug 16, 2010
Zumi wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you remember what the subject was? We can: it's same-sex marriage. I say the State needs to stay out of marriages of all kinds -- same-sex or otherwise -- in any way, shape or form. Tinkerone can speak for himself.
And what part of this is not on the subject?
it's been two pages about all marriages...the subject is gay marriage...and who cares about separation of state...I want my marriage license...

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#386 Aug 16, 2010
god did not make us that way.. get the fact of life straight.
lol

Bell City, MO

#387 Aug 16, 2010
wow whats new wrote:
god did not make us that way.. get the fact of life straight.
ok peter puffer....we get ur point but, judge me not. bc u r not god! matter of fact imma go to church and pray for ppl like u who make it a point to judge others! aren't we supposed to love all of our brothers and sisters no matter what color or how fat or skinny or gay or not gay??? and before u go bringing GOD ALMIGHTY into this u wanna-be holy roller I am openly very Lesbian. U will not change me. U may slow me down for a little while from marrying my wife...but, one day i will legally marry her and there is nothin' u can or will do to stop me!

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#388 Aug 17, 2010
OK ppl if ur gay or whatever and want to date for free check it out in www myyearbook com U may find what ur looking for..smile!
lol

Bell City, MO

#389 Aug 17, 2010
I have what i want but, feeble minded ppl like u are what keep me from making her not only my wife at heart but, to make her legally my wife! what if it were reversed and u straight folk couldn't get married...u'd be in an uproar, too....Imagine finding ur soulmate and knowing u can't make an honest woman out of her. It's sad...it hurts and it's degrading to us! U may not like me but, someday u will have no choice but to respect me...I'm mad as hell and i will be heard and I will one day marry the love of my life...u can bet on that!
disgusted

AOL

#390 Aug 17, 2010
tinkerone wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, you lost me somewhere. I do NOT believe in any god or church, totally not relevant to me. The State controls marriage and should be impartial to whoever wishes to marry, despite what some wacko religious freaks might assume. Go do the Voodoo church thing if you want, just leave me out of all that insanity.....
The state controls marriage, and should do the will of the majority of the people, which is to not allow same sex marriage because it is so repulsive and sick, and unnatural, and objectional to the majority of the people, but you don't care about anybody else, or believe in anythiong, except something to suck on
Jimmy D

Faridabad, India

#391 Aug 17, 2010
Fred wrote:
God's word SPECIFICALLY speaks out against homosexuality.'Nuff said.
I completely agree!
Logic

United States

#392 Aug 17, 2010
disgusted wrote:
<quoted text> The state controls marriage, and should do the will of the majority of the people, which is to not allow same sex marriage because it is so repulsive and sick, and unnatural, and objectional to the majority of the people, but you don't care about anybody else, or believe in anythiong, except something to suck on
I don't know where people get this idea that majority feeling on something makes it right or legal or illegal. The whole reason that the U.S. Constitution was written was to guard certain inalienable rights, regardless of fads or fashions of the time. The principles are bigger than the individual situations. So....the Constitution calls for all people, regardless of race, creed, color, or gender to be granted the same rights. It has nothing to do with the Bible or with popular opinion. If the majority ruled, we would still have slavery. If the majority ruled, women would still not have the right to vote. This is just another step in the fight for Civil Rights of all Americans.
Shane

Faridabad, India

#393 Aug 17, 2010
disgusted wrote:
<quoted text> The state controls marriage, and should do the will of the majority of the people, which is to not allow same sex marriage because it is so repulsive and sick, and unnatural, and objectional to the majority of the people, but you don't care about anybody else, or believe in anythiong, except something to suck on
Mixed Marriages of different races were also once illegal. It was considered (and still is by some) to be "repulsive and sick, and unnatural, and objectional to the majority of the people". Did that make it right? No!

It is clear that not allowing Same Sex Marriage is discriminatory and should be unconstitutional. Whether it happens now or 10 years from now, it's going to happen. Society won't end because of it and fire won't fall from the sky.
james

Parma, MO

#394 Aug 17, 2010
that i am gay myself and i support it
100 percent
jj

Parma, MO

#395 Aug 17, 2010
i am gay myself and idont care if you so
joshuadugger

Parma, MO

#396 Aug 17, 2010
i amgay myself
confused

United States

#397 Aug 17, 2010
So..how is it that many guys think being "gay" is wrong, yet they want their girlfriends/wives, whoever to let them do it in the butt? I don't get it..same thing as being with a guy right?...
Common Sense

Wappapello, MO

#398 Aug 17, 2010
Simple. By definition, marriage is between a man and woman. Same sex marriage in all actuality is something completely different. That'd be like eliminating the word cat and just calling anything that barks or meows a dog. It can be done but would be real stupid and against everything we've ever known. It's gotta have it's own 'technical name.' Legalizing 'civil unions' makes sense if that is what the citizens want. The civil union would allow gay partners to reap each others benefits such as insurance, social security, death beneficiary, etc. But don't call it marriage, because thats a joke. After all aren't the benefits what the proponents of gay marriage are really after? Or is it something else? Hmm....sounds like a slippery slope for some hidden motive doesn't it. You tell me.

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