Gay Marriage Debate - Oklahoma City, OK

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#2912 Aug 5, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
in case you missed it, bi,
What's with heartandmind calling me 'bi'? Is that some kind of slur on orientation? That would fit with his habits of name-calling, bullying and defamation.

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heartandmind wrote:
the anti-discrimination law PREDATES the marriage law. LOL
Ms. Stutzman didn't discriminate against homosexuals; she discriminated against gay marriage. Would a leftist florist be compelled to service a conservative convention or a Jewish florist compelled to service a Nazi party event?

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heartandmind wrote:
it is you that supports both discrimination AND breaking the law.
Everyone supports discrimination; if men and women weren't different every homosexual would be bisexual.

I support civil disobedience even when it means breaking the law. Then I'll have my day in court. Politically correct means leftism; there are no PC codes for conservatives; we believe in free speech, not censorship.

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heartandmind wrote:
i really pity you bi. seriously. maybe it IS better that you live elsewhere besides the united states.
I've traveled extensively outside the USA. I've found most German homosexuals aren't in favor of redefining marriage; they've seen what fascism looks like from the other side of the barbed wire fence and want to avoid a repeat. Besides, German civil union laws allow same sex couples all the privileges of marriage without the name.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#2913 Aug 6, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>What's with heartandmind calling me 'bi'? Is that some kind of slur on orientation? That would fit with his habits of name-calling, bullying and defamation.
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<quoted text>Ms. Stutzman didn't discriminate against homosexuals; she discriminated against gay marriage. Would a leftist florist be compelled to service a conservative convention or a Jewish florist compelled to service a Nazi party event?
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<quoted text>Everyone supports discrimination; if men and women weren't different every homosexual would be bisexual.
I support civil disobedience even when it means breaking the law. Then I'll have my day in court. Politically correct means leftism; there are no PC codes for conservatives; we believe in free speech, not censorship.
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<quoted text>I've traveled extensively outside the USA. I've found most German homosexuals aren't in favor of redefining marriage; they've seen what fascism looks like from the other side of the barbed wire fence and want to avoid a repeat. Besides, German civil union laws allow same sex couples all the privileges of marriage without the name.
bi, again, I HAVE EXPLAINED WHY YOU GET THE MONIKER YOU'RE GETTING IN ANOTHER THREAD AND POSTED IT TWICE IN THAT THREAD AND YOU'VE CHOSEN TO IGNORE THAT POSTING, ALONG WITH THE QUESTIONS. do you get that yet? or are you just dense?

and again, like it was point out to you in all those other threads, by, sweetheart, the couple in question filed a complaint with the appropriate state department. that department filed charges against her since she broke the law. you are sadly sadly mistaken in everything in regards to this case so just give it up.

you'll have your day in court? how? you don't live in these united states! seriously, are you that delusional?

here you go again, making a grand assumption. "most homosexuals" - seriously? do you have a poll or a study to validate your claim, chum? before you make these statements, you really need to get your facts straight. and from what i know of german culture, most germans just don't care. they don't react when they see a homosexual couple, even when they do "normal" things like dance together or hold hands openly. the culture there in germany is vastly differen than it is here in the states. if you lived here bi you'd know that. and again, it's not about german law. it's about the laws here in these united states.

and again, it's not about 'free speech" or "free thought"...it's about actions - what you do to put another person or group down. in this case, the florist refused service to a function directly related to a protected group. this has been pointed out to you REPEATEDLY in other threads yet you continue to air your ignorance. i guess you don't care how stupid and dense you appear.

jeez, the repitiveness we have to go through for you is nauseating, bi.

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#2914 Aug 7, 2013
Reason 35 for keeping marriage one man and one woman, family:
UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Article 16.

(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#2915 Aug 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Reason 35 for keeping marriage one man and one woman, family:
UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Article 16.
(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
so you go off on an another tangent, willy-nilly, with no thought of answering the question posed to you prior :

here you go again, making a grand assumption. "most homosexuals" - seriously? do you have a poll or a study to validate your claim, chum? before you make these statements, you really need to get your facts straight. and from what i know of german culture, most germans just don't care. they don't react when they see a homosexual couple, even when they do "normal" things like dance together or hold hands openly. the culture there in germany is vastly differen than it is here in the states. if you lived here bi you'd know that. and again, it's not about german law. it's about the laws here in these united states.
Harrah Oklahoma

Newalla, OK

#2916 Aug 7, 2013
Of course! They have the right to be as happy or miserable as the rest of us. Jesus teaches love not hate ! Put your hate-a-blockers on.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#2917 Aug 7, 2013
heart..........move to germany......please
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#2918 Aug 13, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
heart..........move to germany......please
oh but then you and my family and friends would miss me. LOL
lavoz

Three Rivers, TX

#2919 Aug 21, 2013
Man of the Cloth wrote:
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Well of course he did and here is the reason why
Rom 1:20 For since the creation of the world his invisible attributes-his eternal power and divine nature-have been understood and observed by what he made, so that people are without excuse.
Rom 1:21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him. Instead, their thoughts turned to worthless things, and their ignorant hearts were darkened.
Rom 1:22 Though claiming to be wise, they became fools
Rom 1:23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images that looked like mortal human beings, birds, four-footed animals, and reptiles.
Rom 1:24 For this reason, God gave them over to impurity to follow the lusts of their hearts and to dishonor their bodies with one another.
Rom 1:25 They exchanged God's truth for a lie and worshipped and served the creation rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this reason, God gave them over to degrading passions. Even their females exchanged their natural sexual function for one that is unnatural.
Rom 1:27 In the same way, their males also abandoned the natural sexual function of females and burned with lust for one another. Males committed indecent acts with males, and received in themselves the appropriate penalty for their perversion.
Rom 1:28 Furthermore, because they did not think it worthwhile to retain the full knowledge of God, God gave them over to degraded minds to perform acts that should not be done.
Rom 1:29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed, and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, quarreling, deceit, and viciousness. They are gossips,
Rom 1:30 slanderers, God-haters, haughty, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to their parents,
Rom 1:31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
Rom 1:32 Although they know God's just requirement-that those who practice such things deserve to die-they not only do these things but even applaud others who practice them.
Amen!!!!! My brother you sure did hit the spot and thats only one chapter that talks about this things, God bless you my brother
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#2920 Aug 21, 2013
well you would still have your gay lover though right?
Jordan

Ashburn, VA

#2921 Oct 7, 2014
Well it is actually now legal in Oklahoma for same-sex marriage. But I have always supported the idea.
NitemarWalker

San Jose, CA

#2922 Oct 7, 2014
You know on Monday the Supreme Court passed a law in quite a few states making same-sex marriage legal there, Oklahoma was one of them. So against or not it's legal right now and they are even discussing making it legal nationwide

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

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#2923 Oct 7, 2014
The Supreme Court has shirked its duty and D.C. is imposing its marriage definition on the rest of the country.

There's something you can do about it, vote in November.
yeah

Talihina, OK

#2924 Oct 7, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
The Supreme Court has shirked its duty and D.C. is imposing its marriage definition on the rest of the country.
There's something you can do about it, vote in November.
Don't worry, it's only marriage recognized by the state, not by the church. It has as much to do with the church as atheist marriage, or islamic marriage. So don't worry, Christian Marriage shouldn't be affected by this in any way.

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Since: Dec 08

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#2925 Oct 8, 2014
Our government licenses marriage; this affects all of society, men and women alike. You've achieved segregation in marriage; what's next?
yeah

Talihina, OK

#2926 Oct 8, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
Our government licenses marriage; this affects all of society, men and women alike. You've achieved segregation in marriage; what's next?
Well, after work I have a couple loads of laundry to take care of... and later tonight i hope to run for an hour of so if it's not raining.
Indian outraged citizen

Elkhart, IN

#2927 Oct 10, 2014
Homo's are not an ethnic group,they are not from the land of "HOMO" AND SHOULD NOT BE TREATED AS IF THEY ARE,BECAUSE THEY ARE "WHITE,BLACK,ASIAN,HISPAN IC,ETC.But the Left wants them into their fold to get votes, and to advance their agenda upon the American people by giving them an ethnic status.l also believe the Left knows that Homo's are disease carriers and the Left seems to be very much in favor of anything that will cause us harm.We all come into life the same method,a vaginal birth,and what happens to us after is all by "CHOICE" being gay is not some sort of genetic episode or malfuction,but an individual choice like, to steal,murder,lie,molest,etc.
No one is predetermined to do much of anything after they are born,everything that follows is each individuals own choices one makes in life.Not buying the Liberal lie that they were born that way,its a LIE.....I THOUGHT THE AIDS EPIDEMIC WOULD HAVE MADE THAT VERY CLEAR!!....But the Left had to politicize it,and protect their new community of voters.Then the lies about where it originated from like;monkies,then a traveling guy from Africa much like johnny appleseed spread the disease etc.What lengths the Left will take to protect their fold from the truth......The CDC,I don't trust at all,they have been shanghaied by the Left much like the mainstream news,IRS,NSA,OSHA,PETA,EPA,NEA ,ETC.We can fight back,we need to use the power of the vote to defeat these anti-American value haters.......And return our Nation around before we loose it like how ROME FELL from within........God bless America....
American outraged citizen

Elkhart, IN

#2928 Oct 10, 2014
yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't worry, it's only marriage recognized by the state, not by the church. It has as much to do with the church as atheist marriage, or islamic marriage. So don't worry, Christian Marriage shouldn't be affected by this in any way.
Who would have thought that the IRS would deny people of faith,patriots like the tea party,conservatives their tax exemtion to get the vote out but they did!,and thats why Obama is sittng pretty in our WH.When gay marriage becomes the law of the land,no church will be aloud to deny marrying them,because if they do,the fedral gov will take away their tax exemtions, and bankrupt them.This is the Lefts agenda toward faith in America, an how they intend to shut them down,and they are using the homo;s to accomplish it.....

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

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#2929 Oct 11, 2014
There's nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality and sexual orientation doesn't justify rewriting marriage law for everyone. After all, bisexuality doesn't justify bigamy so why should homosexuality justify sex segregated marriage?

The People and the Law define marriage as one man and one woman.
American outraged citizen

Elkhart, IN

#2930 Oct 11, 2014
We are a Representative R epublic where the MAJORITY rules and that doesn't mean just "whites"because that would be the Left's twisted definition to that meaning of our way of govrning.We the people should determine ouir couorse of laws that are going to protect society,from attack,bio pendemic illnesses,invassion like what is occurring on our borders,etc.But when you have a bunch of Liberal judges like the the 9th circuit court of appeals forcing gay marriage down our throats it's unconstitutional,and it goes against the way our way inwhich we do business with the laws that are inforced upon us.Now fifty years ago there was no such disease as AIDS,WHY!. WHEN SOCIETY ALLOWS THIS BEHAVIOR TO FLURISH DISEASES SEEM TO HAPPEN.We have a Government who dictates to us what is best for us,and some very important agences have been shanghied by the left to reinforce their agenda that they are imposing upon us all,regaurdless of the consequences.Just because the rest of the World has folded with this gay agenda ,doesn't mean we here in America have toooooo!!
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#2931 Oct 14, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
There's nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality and sexual orientation doesn't justify rewriting marriage law for everyone. After all, bisexuality doesn't justify bigamy so why should homosexuality justify sex segregated marriage?
The People and the Law define marriage as one man and one woman.
apparantly, every judge on every level in the judiciary branch in these united states have disagreed with you for about a decade.

you've lost the battle and the war.

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