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Apr 26, 2013
 
wendy wrote:
all love is still love
A good argument; therefor if love is the standard, government must license polygamy because more love is better than less. Same sex marriage is bad because arguments for it lead to far worse.

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Rose_NoHo wrote:
The 14th Amendment says " No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Are you claiming women aren't persons?
I've never written "women aren't persons", those are Rose's words, not mine. I wrote the US Constitution explicitly states male and female are different, unequal. One example is the second section of the 14th Amendment, then if you read the whole document you learn, there is no gender equality right in the Constitution.
come on now

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Apr 26, 2013
 
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I've never written "women aren't persons", those are Rose's words, not mine. I wrote the US Constitution explicitly states male and female are different, unequal. One example is the second section of the 14th Amendment, then if you read the One example is the second section of the 14th Amendment,
Constitution explicitly states male and female are different:"
Where ... copy and pase where it says this.... One example is the second section of the 14th Amendment,... "
Again where... where in hte 14th is that written... cut and paste.

One example is the second section of the 14th Amendment, ""
Again where....

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Apr 26, 2013
 
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>True, and the 14th explicitly recognizes male and female as different; unequal. Equal treatment but not gender equality.
Only in the sense that when the 14th was written, women did not yet have the right to vote. The provisions of Section 2 were meant to address the original Constitution that apportioned Representatives based on the population of free whites, and of 3/5 of the black slave population. Since the 19th latter recognized that women have a right to vote, the Equal Protection clause forbids the gender distinction of Section 2.

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Apr 26, 2013
 
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>No, the ERA says:
Section 1. Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.
Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
Section 3. This amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification.
There's nothing like gender equality anywhere in our Constitution.
Stop lying.
14th Amendment wrote:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
"All persons" means just that - ALL persons. Gender discrimination is unconstitutional.

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Apr 26, 2013
 
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>A good argument; therefor if love is the standard, government must license polygamy because more love is better than less. Same sex marriage is bad because arguments for it lead to far worse.
What is wrong with polygamy? Oh, the form practiced by the FLDS has some very serious problems, like forced marriages of underage girls, but if we are talking about polygamous marriages between consenting adults, why is there a problem?

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Apr 26, 2013
 
Read Liam's post and learn, same sex marriage is just the first step; other marriage modifications are scheduled for later...

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May 3, 2013
 
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I've never written "women aren't persons",
Well, stupid, this is from the 14th Amendment:
"nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

So, do you feel women aren't persons?
Brian_G wrote:
those are Rose's words, not mine. I wrote the US Constitution explicitly states male and female are different, unequal. One example is the second section of the 14th Amendment, then if you read the whole document you learn, there is no gender equality right in the Constitution.
The second section also mentions Indians. Are you claiming there isn't racial equality in the Constitution?
Put up, or shut up.

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#725
May 3, 2013
 
Brian_G wrote:
Read Liam's post and learn, same sex marriage is just the first step; other marriage modifications are scheduled for later...
So what? Each modification will stand and fall on its own merit.
WTF are you so afraid of!?

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#726
May 3, 2013
 
Keep marriage as is, KISS.

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May 4, 2013
 
Brian_G wrote:
Keep marriage as is, KISS.
Why?
KMA.

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May 4, 2013
 
No thanks, too hairy.

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May 4, 2013
 
Brian_G wrote:
No thanks, too hairy.
You can shave.
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Nov 2, 2013
 
Yes, I support gay marriage. I vote for gay marriage.
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#732
Nov 2, 2013
 
Yes, I support gay marriage. I vote for gays marriage. Because I am homosexual.

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Nov 2, 2013
 
Mysterious wrote:
Yes, I support gay marriage. I vote for gays marriage. Because I am homosexual.
If you were bisexual would you support polygamy?
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Nov 21, 2013
 
Never !

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Nov 21, 2013
 
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>If you were bisexual would you support polygamy?
Hey! I'm straight and I support polygamy. The more the merrier.

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Nov 21, 2013
 
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>A good argument; therefor if love is the standard, government must license polygamy because more love is better than less. Same sex marriage is bad because arguments for it lead to far worse.
Love isn't the standard.
The standard is equal protection.
A man can marry a woman, so a woman should also be able to.
A woman can marry a man, so a man should also be able to.
You think gay marriage is bad because you are a fundie.

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#740
Nov 21, 2013
 
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I've never written "women aren't persons", those are Rose's words, not mine. I wrote the US Constitution explicitly states male and female are different, unequal. One example is the second section of the 14th Amendment, then if you read the whole document you learn, there is no gender equality right in the Constitution.
By that same logic the Constitution says there is no racial equality.
But, stupid Brian, the section you are talking about was describing how the number of reps are determined, not about people's rights.

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