Gay Marriage Debate - Lake Villa, IL

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polly

Gurnee, IL

#1 Aug 7, 2010
opposed
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AOL

#2 Aug 7, 2010
If they want to commit for life, they should be afforded the same benefits, and respect all married people get. Especially when it comes to end of life, etc...
opere et viritate

United States

#3 Aug 7, 2010
come on is this still a debate?
mystery man

Lisle, IL

#4 Aug 8, 2010
Marriage is between a man and a woman. Gays already have civil union.
Mystery Man

Lisle, IL

#5 Aug 8, 2010
Gays already have civil union. They already have ALL the legal rights of any married couple.
They are only pushing this to upset heterosexuals.
They are such an angry bunch they even out each other.
Why should society respect them when they don't even respect themselves ?

“Snow days!”

Since: Nov 08

A winter wonderland

#6 Aug 8, 2010
Who you fall in love with has no gender boundaries. You should be able to live as a married couple. No holds barred. It's a tough world out there & if you can find love, more power to you.
VyvB

United States

#7 Aug 9, 2010
Agreed Andie.

And what right does the government have denying gays to become married? If marriage is purely a legal definition, then it should be afforded to any pair of consenting adults. If marriage is in any part a religious definition then it falls under separation of church and state. As long as government doesn't force a church to marry any couple, I don't see the issue. And there are heterosexual couples that are denied marriage after the attend meetings with their pastor or priest. I don't see an issue with a church denying a gay couple because it is not a tenet of their faith. And the government should have no say over religious matters, whether a church is for or against gay marriage.

“Snow days!”

Since: Nov 08

A winter wonderland

#8 Aug 9, 2010
Ahem sistah!
NMK

Newark, IL

#9 Aug 10, 2010
The debate that being "gay" is wrong is a RELIGIOUS moral issue (sin vs. not sin) and I believe that Church and State should remain separate. Yeah, its not the cycle of life but I think everyone- straight or gay, should be allowed to have their relationship committment recognized by the state/country. There are many benefits and rights that are denied same sex partners when one dies, and thats just wrong.
NMK

Newark, IL

#10 Aug 10, 2010
What Andie and VyvB said!!!

The debate that being "gay" is wrong is a RELIGIOUS moral issue (sin vs. not sin) and I believe that Church and State should remain separate. Yeah, its not the cycle of life but I think everyone- straight or gay, should be allowed to have their relationship committment recognized by the state/country. There are benefits and rights that are denied same sex partners when one dies, and thats just wrong.

And I also concur that religious institutions should not be forced or bullied into officiating weddings of gay couples if they decide they do not want to (I'm aware that there are some religious institutions where they do officiate, gladly).

However, I don't consider a person a biggot if they are against it because of their religious faith as long as they aren't hateful about it. Some people hold their religion close and don't think they should support or vote for something that their God says is wrong. I get it. I know MANY loving, religious people who are not supporters of gay marriage and are not biggots or hateful people whatsoever. When I was closely involved with my faith, I felt that way as well but never said a bad thing about gay people.

If you want to get religious- we all sin. And ANY sin, no matter what it is, brings us short of the glory of God and unworthy. I'm not gay, but there are some commandments that I break and probably will til my last days. I find it sad that religious hate-mongers will picket, post signs and say horrible things to gay people because they "sin" but don't treat thiefs and adulterers with the same furvor.
NMK

Newark, IL

#11 Aug 10, 2010
P.S. Sorry about the triplicate posting above my longer one; it was unintentional- my computer or the website seemed like it was bogged and I wasn't sure it accepted my comment:(
Anonymous

Saint Joseph, MI

#12 Sep 3, 2010
Marriage is a civil union between two people. We have separation of state & church so we cannot simply look at marriage as a religious union. If two people choose to be married in front of a judge it shouldn't matter what their gender is.
Anonymous

Saint Joseph, MI

#13 Sep 3, 2010
Mystery Man wrote:
Gays already have civil union. They already have ALL the legal rights of any married couple.
They are only pushing this to upset heterosexuals.
They are such an angry bunch they even out each other.
Why should society respect them when they don't even respect themselves ?
I think you should relax a bit and realize not all GLBT people are "such an angry bunch" for starters. After that you need to realize they do not have ALL the legal rights of any married couple. Gays don't have the right to civil unions in all states. Check the facts. Lastly, who says they don't respect themselves???
Mystery Man

Villa Park, IL

#14 Sep 4, 2010
Happy with My Life wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you should relax a bit and realize not all GLBT people are "such an angry bunch" for starters. After that you need to realize they do not have ALL the legal rights of any married couple. Gays don't have the right to civil unions in all states. Check the facts. Lastly, who says they don't respect themselves???
I'm relaxed.
Are you suggesting otherwise to try and stir something up ?
That's pretty lame if you are.
I think the gays are an angry bunch. Look at how they attack anyone who has an opinion they oppose. Look at the people they use to represent their agenda. Perez Hilton - Rose O'Donnell.
Tell me that's not an angry representation.
Look at how upset they get when the MAJORITY of the people don't support their cause at the ballot box
And they do out each other all the time. That can cause a lot of distress for those who have a personal reason for remaining anonymous. So tell me how is outing someone respectful of their right of privacy.
Or are you going to pretend that doesn't happen ?
I have checked and i haven't found a single state where gays are not allowed the rights of any hetero couple.
Married or otherwise.
I found they can buy homes, rent apartment, hold jobs, get insurance, etc in every state.
Show me a state where they can't. I want to move there.
Then we both would be happy. And i mean that in a good way.
Mystery Man

Villa Park, IL

#15 Sep 4, 2010
Happy with My Life wrote:
Marriage is a civil union between two people. We have separation of state & church so we cannot simply look at marriage as a religious union. If two people choose to be married in front of a judge it shouldn't matter what their gender is.
Let me see if i got what you said right.
Gays would be happy with a CIVIL UNION in front of a judge.
Well they already have CIVIL UNION agreements with judges.
All legal and binding.
So according to you gays are NOT interested in marriage just CIVIL UNION.
No problem i'm ok with CIVIL UNION.
I'm not ok with MARRIAGE UNION for gays.
You can talk religion all you want but that's a smoke screen gays use to confuse.
Simply put gays already have ALL the legal rights that EVERYONE has.
Gays already have legal CIVIL UNION that gives them every legal single right marriage gives.
Prove me wrong. Show me a link proving that isn't so.
stormi dodson

Lake Villa, IL

#16 Jan 17, 2012
everyone has the right to love whoever they want. gender and sex shouldn't make ones love obsolete to another
Chuck Norris

Round Lake, IL

#17 Jan 18, 2012
Gay people aren't a problem but a gay married couple reallly can change a child for the gay side a well and when there's only gay people then we cant continue our earth. #Straight
Kayla

Round Lake, IL

#18 Jan 18, 2012
Love is love you guys really. If two people love each that much to fight for it like this, then it most certainly is love and you should respect that.
herewegoagain

Chicago, IL

#19 Jan 18, 2012
NMK wrote:
What Andie and VyvB said!!!
The debate that being "gay" is wrong is a RELIGIOUS moral issue (sin vs. not sin) and I believe that Church and State should remain separate. Yeah, its not the cycle of life but I think everyone- straight or gay, should be allowed to have their relationship committment recognized by the state/country. There are benefits and rights that are denied same sex partners when one dies, and thats just wrong.
And I also concur that religious institutions should not be forced or bullied into officiating weddings of gay couples if they decide they do not want to (I'm aware that there are some religious institutions where they do officiate, gladly).
However, I don't consider a person a biggot if they are against it because of their religious faith as long as they aren't hateful about it. Some people hold their religion close and don't think they should support or vote for something that their God says is wrong. I get it. I know MANY loving, religious people who are not supporters of gay marriage and are not biggots or hateful people whatsoever. When I was closely involved with my faith, I felt that way as well but never said a bad thing about gay people.
If you want to get religious- we all sin. And ANY sin, no matter what it is, brings us short of the

glory of God and unworthy. I'm not gay, but there are some commandments that I break and probably will til my last days. I find it sad that religious hate-mongers will picket, post signs and say horrible things to gay people because they "sin" but don't treat thiefs and adulterers with the same furvor.
Where in the bible does it say being gay is a sin? Its not in the bible, but its looked upon in a negative light. So what do the leaders of our churches teach(some of them), they teach hatred, as you can clearly see by some of these responses. They teach us to be judgemental and that's what's wrong. I think its pretty sad to force your feelings of right and wrong on others, rather gay or straight. People fear what they dont know or understand. No, I am not gay. But I have some beautiful friends that are and I have seen them be pushed out of churches and other places because they choose to be with the opposite sex. Who are we to judge anyone? God created man in his image. This was not meant as an attack on you, I was just venting.
herewegoagain

Chicago, IL

#20 Jan 19, 2012
Mystery Man wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm relaxed.
Are you suggesting otherwise to try and stir something up ?
That's pretty lame if you are.
I think the gays are an angry bunch. Look at how they attack anyone who has an opinion they oppose. Look at the people they use to represent their agenda. Perez Hilton - Rose O'Donnell.
Tell me that's not an angry representation.
Look at how upset they get when the MAJORITY of the people don't support their cause at the ballot box
And they do out each other all the time. That can cause a lot of distress for those who have a personal reason for remaining anonymous. So tell me how is outing someone respectful of their right of privacy.
Or are you going to pretend that doesn't happen ?
I have checked and i haven't found a single state where gays are not allowed the rights of any hetero couple.
Married or otherwise.
I found they can buy homes, rent apartment, hold jobs, get insurance, etc in every state.
Show me a state where they can't. I want to move there.
Then we both would be happy. And i mean that in a good way.
So, gays are responsible for your happiness now? I would think that you would have to show proof of what your saying. Gays are not allowed to marry in all 50 states and they do not have the benefits we as straight married couples have, they cannot add their spouses on their insurance etc, etc. Anyone can go and rent homes, buy homes, open up bank accts, etc, etc. Get a grip, why does sleeping with opposite sex offend you or make you angry? What effect does it have on your life?

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