Gay Marriage Debate - Jamestown, NY

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Aug 2, 2010
 
I support civil marriage equality for same sex couples because our Constitution allows it. It's a basic civil right to marry the person you love and the government has no business excluding same sex couples. There is no rational or compelling government interest to do so.
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Aug 2, 2010
 
Despite diversity being forced on us, i feel that homosexuality is and always will be morally wrong and unnatural!!

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Aug 2, 2010
 
u cant help who u love

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Aug 2, 2010
 
yes it is wrong but u know what u cant help who u love theres some women out there that are being abused but they still love there husbend and chooses to stay with them even though they keep abuseing them do u see any of us talking about it or voting aganist it no
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#5
Aug 2, 2010
 
Anybody wanna do the humpty dance?
ltm

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Aug 2, 2010
 
"Despite diversity being forced on us" ...that makes me laugh. God, creation, or whoever you believe in created all types, color, races of people. If that makes it being "forced" on us...I guess so.... It's small world, and life is short...the sooner people accept everyone..the happier you'll be. You don't have to be their best friend, but live and let live.
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Aug 2, 2010
 
ltm wrote:
"Despite diversity being forced on us" ...that makes me laugh. God, creation, or whoever you believe in created all types, color, races of people. If that makes it being "forced" on us...I guess so.... It's small world, and life is short...the sooner people accept everyone..the happier you'll be. You don't have to be their best friend, but live and let live.
It's ages old force feeding misquotes from the King James Bible that gives us that posters 'morality'.
It's not easy to re-educate so to speak, although we have moved mountains in the right direction in the past 30 or 40 odd years.

Myself, I truly wish everybody would adapt a "Don't ask Don't care" attitude.
In the meantime I'll be dancing anyway.:)

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#8
Aug 2, 2010
 
I think all those same sex couples should feel the financial pains that divorce can havef that opposite sex couples do. They should not be exempt. Do I like it? No, but I would have to say that I am for it so they can suffer like I may someday when my women doesn't have dinner ready.

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Aug 2, 2010
 
Why do homosexuals feel the need to tell the world about their sexual orientation?

If I didn't know better, I'd think that homosexuals announce their homosexuality knowing that it will elicit negative responses with the objective being to perpetuate their "oppressed minority" status, which in turn gives them the necessary political tools to have polices implemented specifically designed to cater to their so-called "alternative lifestyle."

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Aug 2, 2010
 
cantbetamed69 wrote:
u cant help who u love
By nature men and women are found suitable for marriage. Marriage is seen as the unity between man and woman that possess far greater connection than living together.

Marriage is more than love and sex. Marriage takes the two different natures of men and women to be constituted as something other than living in the same house.

Two people who possess the same nature within the same gender cannot in any manner provide that combination of diversity that is found in a family. Marriage is more than love. Love is not the same thing as sex. Refusing understanding the meaning of what marriage really is is an attempt to make marriage something nature never intended it to be.

The attempt to do so is to under mind the religious nature of mankind. From what I have seen many homosexuals desire to push the Christian faith out of America and in doing so they take their agenda before the courts to over rule any votes the American people have made in the hopes that their lifestyle and behavior can be seen as normal.

Homosexuals are not a class of people by any standard. To be recognized as a new gender, race, species, or culture is a blind hope to push the lifestyle on those who do not agree.

If you wish to practice homosexuality, there is nothing that says you cannot. You have the free will to do as you wish but to be counted as something other than what has been seen for thousands of years as natural and acceptable is not natural.

Same Sex Marriage provides no benefit to society. Homosexuality is an unhealthy lifestyle. I agree, those who do not agree with homosexuality or Same Sex Marriage do not need to practice it. However, many of us care about people and have a right to vote according to our values and morals without the fear that some group of people will take measures into their own hands to seek legal recourse to over run the voice of the people.
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Aug 2, 2010
 
Lets face facts! whats the point of same sex marriage or any marriage for that matter? To swear your unending love? Bs. Its an outdated ritual. Its broken. 50% of marriage ends in divorce. Its the equivolent of spray painting i love whoever on the side of a bridge. Same sex marriages dont even have the argument that its to have children together. To them its the end of their gene pool. Ok, so married couples get tax breaks. Big deal, that should end too! Any 2 people living together should get a break if a tax break is to be had. Should we open the floodgates for bogus marriages for people just to get tax breaks? If same sex marriages are allowed whats next? Incestous marriages? Polygamy? Should people be allowed to marry thir pets? You cant help who you love remember? I guess live and let live. The sooner u accept it, the happier you will be?
Got2know

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Aug 2, 2010
 
I just got to know, if a gay man is attracted to a man sexually and loves penis when he sees his own penis does he want it,desire it, get turned on by it...it would seem he would

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Aug 3, 2010
 
Why does a butch lesbo who looks like a dude has a pretty girlfriend? If she wanted a guy go for it!! Both chicks should be hot if there going to be rug munchers! Another thing is I can't stand it when a guy acts like a queen! What's that all about?
curious

Corning, NY

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Aug 3, 2010
 
Joey you want to tell tackleberry why guys act like queens. You are an expert on the subject. I was wondering whats up with the three way marriage on here joey felix bunch of cry babies.

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Aug 3, 2010
 
Ding ding ding how many rounds is this bout?

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Aug 3, 2010
 
nobody wrote:
Despite diversity being forced on us, i feel that homosexuality is and always will be morally wrong and unnatural!!
Yeah, it stinks that God created such a diverse universe. Life would be so much more comfy if everyone was just like everyone else, huh?

Or maybe it's just that change and difference are a little more challenging to deal with and God created a humanity that is basically lazy?

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Aug 3, 2010
 
KarmaKween wrote:
Why do homosexuals feel the need to tell the world about their sexual orientation?
If I didn't know better, I'd think that homosexuals announce their homosexuality knowing that it will elicit negative responses with the objective being to perpetuate their "oppressed minority" status, which in turn gives them the necessary political tools to have polices implemented specifically designed to cater to their so-called "alternative lifestyle."
Same sex couples want to express their love and celebrate their relationships just the same as heterosexual couples. Thinking that it's OK for heterosexuals to be able to marry, wear a ring, hold hands walking down the street, etc., while thinking that same sex couples do it just to annoy people is plain old prejudice.

Same sex couples are more like heterosexual couples than they are different. They do not deserve to be politically oppressed through exclusion to basic and special rights that are summarily granted to heterosexual couples.
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Aug 3, 2010
 
Emelye Waldherr wrote:
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Same sex couples want to express their love and celebrate their relationships just the same as heterosexual couples. Thinking that it's OK for heterosexuals to be able to marry, wear a ring, hold hands walking down the street, etc., while thinking that same sex couples do it just to annoy people is plain old prejudice.
Same sex couples are more like heterosexual couples than they are different. They do not deserve to be politically oppressed through exclusion to basic and special rights that are summarily granted to heterosexual couples.
you can love whoever you want,wear their ring,hold hands walking down the street,that's not enough?

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Aug 3, 2010
 
KarmaKween wrote:
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By nature men and women are found suitable for marriage. Marriage is seen as the unity between man and woman that possess far greater connection than living together.
What are you talking about? Found suitable by whom? How can you imply that same sex couples cannot posses the same kind of connection that heterosexual couples do with such certainty but without showing proof? That sounds distinctly prejudicial to me.
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Marriage is more than love and sex. Marriage takes the two different natures of men and women to be constituted as something other than living in the same house.
Again, you seem to imply that same sex couples cannot achieve the unity and love heterosexual couples can. Perhaps that may be true for you, since you are apparently heterosexual but projecting your circumstance and experience to everyone else is rather fallacious. Your experience is not universal. I think it's rather presumptuous to think it is.
KarmaKween wrote:
Two people who possess the same nature within the same gender cannot in any manner provide that combination of diversity that is found in a family. Marriage is more than love. Love is not the same thing as sex. Refusing understanding the meaning of what marriage really is is an attempt to make marriage something nature never intended it to be.
This is another unsupported statement based on the same prejudicial guesses about same sex relationships that the previous two were based on. Do you have any real arguments?
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The attempt to do so is to under mind the religious nature of mankind. From what I have seen many homosexuals desire to push the Christian faith out of America and in doing so they take their agenda before the courts to over rule any votes the American people have made in the hopes that their lifestyle and behavior can be seen as normal.
You conveniently ignore the large portion of the LGBT community that is Christian along with the churches and denominations that support them. This argument fails because there is no effort to push Christianity out of America. You're making things up.

It is a major purpose of the judicial system to enforce the Constitution when a majority unfairly oppresses a minority. Majority votes are not always right.
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Homosexuals are not a class of people by any standard. To be recognized as a new gender, race, species, or culture is a blind hope to push the lifestyle on those who do not agree.
If you wish to practice homosexuality, there is nothing that says you cannot. You have the free will to do as you wish but to be counted as something other than what has been seen for thousands of years as natural and acceptable is not natural.
The Supreme Court disagrees with you. Science also disagrees with you in your attempt to corral the definition of "normal" into your own narrow interests. "Normal" is an appropriate setting for washing machines; it does not apply to humans and the rest of nature.

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Aug 3, 2010
 
KarmaKween wrote:
Same Sex Marriage provides no benefit to society. Homosexuality is an unhealthy lifestyle. I agree, those who do not agree with homosexuality or Same Sex Marriage do not need to practice it. However, many of us care about people and have a right to vote according to our values and morals without the fear that some group of people will take measures into their own hands to seek legal recourse to over run the voice of the people.
Same sex marriage provides the same kind of stability to our society as does heterosexual marriage. It provides the same kind of protections to the children of same sex couples as it does to heterosexual couples' children. People attracted to members of their same sex are inherently no more likely to be unhealthy as heterosexual couples.

The "voice of the people" is not always right. Would a majority vote in England have granted the US its independence in 1776? Would a majority vote allow African Americans the right to equal schools in 1954? Would a majority have approved of allowing mixed race couples to marry in 1967? No! Our country is a federal republic, not a pure democracy, for the simple reason that our founders correctly surmised that pure majority rule could be guaranteed to oppress the inalienable rights of unpopular minorities. It was for that reason, among others, that they wrote the Bill of Rights. Indeed, they refused to ratify the Constitution without it.

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