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Mar 1, 2013
 
I nomore need to support homosexuality than I need to support left-handedness or genius. They are all innate traits of our species.

I don't care if people like you, who haven't the slightest interest in educating yourself, don't like what I say. Your ignorance is yours to live with.
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Like I said, you support homosexuality so you can call names all you want but if a person is born one way, there is no way that others can be born with their sexuality. Keep on telling that story and some might believe you.
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Mar 1, 2013
 
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Not saying I agree with you but for grins and giggles lets say I do...
The big difference is pedophiles cause harm... Homosexuals do not.
Also going by your warped sense of facts.. I guess since hetero were "born that way" so were rapists...
You will need to excuse DavidM. He just went through a sex change operation and is still trying to find his/her identity.

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#1186
Mar 1, 2013
 
She/he/it (s/h/it) has no identity.
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<quoted text>You will need to excuse DavidM. He just went through a sex change operation and is still trying to find his/her identity.

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#1187
Mar 2, 2013
 
Doing harm or not has nothing to do with the fact if one can be born this way and another can't. But there are many homosexuals that are pedophiles.
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Not saying I agree with you but for grins and giggles lets say I do...
The big difference is pedophiles cause harm... Homosexuals do not.
Also going by your warped sense of facts.. I guess since hetero were "born that way" so were rapists...
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#1188
Mar 2, 2013
 
has negative impact on society, violates natural law, and is opposed in the Bible

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#1189
Mar 2, 2013
 
1) We are PART of society and always have been. Name one concrete example of our "negative impact."

2) Since homosexuality occurs in nature, obviously it's not against any laws...does nature write tickets for infractions?

3) Who gives a damn about your bible? This is not a theocracy.
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has negative impact on society, violates natural law, and is opposed in the Bible
come on now

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Mar 2, 2013
 
DavidM wrote:
Doing harm or not has nothing to do with the fact if one can be born this way and another can't. But there are many homosexuals that are pedophiles.
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First I agreed to your concept... but your concept has nothign to do with ssm
Second there are no homosexual pedophiles. There are pedophiles who prey on boys and pedo. who prey on girls. If you look up Pedophilia is a psychological disorder that occurs when someone turns to children for sexual pleasure. Where as homosexual is an person who is attracted to the same sex... not children... major difference.. though I am sure you will not see it.

Now tell me why you believe it is ok for two citizens to be denied the same rights and priveledges of two other citizens in the united states

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#1191
Mar 10, 2013
 
Many gays marry under the same laws as everyone else; there is no orientation test for a marriage license.

We oppose rewriting marriage laws for everyone with a new definition of gender segregated marriage. If you love integration and diversity, keep marriage male/female.

There is no gender equality right in the Constitution, the ERA failed, just as will same sex marriage.
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Mar 29, 2013
 
yes i do im really would just like to get the rights as a man an woman would if i can marry my girlfriend love is love u can help who u fall in love with an its not about looks or money its all love an please best the law i want to marry my soulmate the love of my life an be free an have rights too like man an woman do

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Mar 29, 2013
 
I'm Gay and I Oppose Same-Sex Marriage
by Doug Mainwaring
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March 8th, 2013

While religion and tradition have led many to their positions on same-sex marriage, it’s also possible to oppose same-sex marriage based on reason and experience.

“I know in my heart that man is good, that what is right will always eventually triumph, and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.” These words, spoken by Ronald Reagan in 1991, are framed on the wall above my desk. As a gay man, I’ve adopted them as my own, as I’ve entered the national discussion on same-sex marriage.

I wholeheartedly support civil unions for gay and lesbian couples, but I am opposed to same-sex marriage. Because activists have made marriage, rather than civil unions, their goal, I am viewed by many as a self-loathing, traitorous gay. So be it. I prefer to think of myself as a reasoning, intellectually honest human being.

The notion of same-sex marriage is implausible, yet political correctness has made stating the obvious a risky business. Genderless marriage is not marriage at all. It is something else entirely....
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Mar 29, 2013
 
cpeter1313 wrote:
1) We are PART of society and always have been. Name one concrete example of our "negative impact."
2) Since homosexuality occurs in nature, obviously it's not against any laws...does nature write tickets for infractions?
3) Who gives a damn about your bible? This is not a theocracy.
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The AIDS epidemic was proliferated by the behavior of Gay Men
We are not wild animals, and I'm not sure I have ever witnessed animals pairing up for life with the same sex...they are too smart for that. Even animals understand the importance of family that includes a Mother, Father and offspring
Marriage is a sacred covenant created by God, not by Government or Man. If you want a "contract" agreement with another person, then go right ahead.

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#1195
Mar 29, 2013
 
SSM isn't genderless marriage; what a moronic statement. Nor is SSM implausible, seeing how it already exists and everything...
Brian_G wrote:
I'm Gay and I Oppose Same-Sex Marriage
by Doug Mainwaring
within Marriage
March 8th, 2013
While religion and tradition have led many to their positions on same-sex marriage, it’s also possible to oppose same-sex marriage based on reason and experience.
“I know in my heart that man is good, that what is right will always eventually triumph, and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.” These words, spoken by Ronald Reagan in 1991, are framed on the wall above my desk. As a gay man, I’ve adopted them as my own, as I’ve entered the national discussion on same-sex marriage.
I wholeheartedly support civil unions for gay and lesbian couples, but I am opposed to same-sex marriage. Because activists have made marriage, rather than civil unions, their goal, I am viewed by many as a self-loathing, traitorous gay. So be it. I prefer to think of myself as a reasoning, intellectually honest human being.
The notion of same-sex marriage is implausible, yet political correctness has made stating the obvious a risky business. Genderless marriage is not marriage at all. It is something else entirely....

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#1196
Mar 29, 2013
 
1) HIV was first spread in the hetero community in africa; it happened to hit gays first when it arrived here. Both gays and straights get AIDS through unprotected sex. Who has the AIDS babies?

2) I don't care what you've seen; I have no proof you've ever been out of your basement. Animal researchers like the national geographic society have noted many species with same-sex pair bonds.

3) Marriage in fact was created by governments first. In this country, civil marriage is a legal institution first; it does not require any religious input whatsoever.
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The AIDS epidemic was proliferated by the behavior of Gay Men
We are not wild animals, and I'm not sure I have ever witnessed animals pairing up for life with the same sex...they are too smart for that. Even animals understand the importance of family that includes a Mother, Father and offspring
Marriage is a sacred covenant created by God, not by Government or Man. If you want a "contract" agreement with another person, then go right ahead.

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cpeter1313 wrote:
SSM isn't genderless marriage; what a moronic statement. Nor is SSM implausible, seeing how it already exists and everything...
Same sex marriage would force government to treat marriage as if gender was unimportant and insignificant. It would define a new unisex standard of law not present in history or present law. It would force a form of gender segregation onto the institution of marriage.

Same sex marriage is genderless, unisex marriage where husbands and wives would be disposable under the law. That's why same sex marriage is bad.

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Mar 29, 2013
 
'm Gay and I Oppose Same-Sex Marriage
by Doug Mainwaring
within Marriage

March 8th, 2013
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Intellectual Honesty and Surprise Conclusions

Unfortunately, a few years later my marriage ended—a pain known too easily by too many. At this point, the divorce allowed me to explore my homosexuality for the first time in my life.

At first, I felt liberated. I dated some great guys, and was in a couple of long-term relationships. Over several years, intellectual honesty led me to some unexpected conclusions:(1) Creating a family with another man is not completely equal to creating a family with a woman, and (2) denying children parents of both genders at home is an objective evil. Kids need and yearn for both.

It took some doing, but after ten years of divorce, we began to pull our family back together. We have been under one roof for over two years now. Our kids are happier and better off in so many ways. My ex-wife, our kids, and I recently celebrated Thanksgiving and Christmas together and agreed these were the best holidays ever.

Because of my predilections, we deny our own sexual impulses. Has this led to depressing, claustrophobic repression? No. We enjoy each other’s company immensely. It has actually led to psychological health and a flourishing of our family. Did we do this for the sake of tradition? For the sake of religion? No. We did it because reason led us to resist selfish impulses and to seek the best for our children.

And wonderfully, she and I continue to regard each other as “soul mates” now, more than ever.

Over the last couple of years, I’ve found our decision to rebuild our family ratified time after time. One day as I turned to climb the stairs I saw my sixteen-year-old son walk past his mom as she sat reading in the living room. As he did, he paused and stooped down to kiss her and give her a hug, and then continued on. With two dads in the house, this little moment of warmth and tenderness would never have occurred. My varsity-track-and-football-pla ying son and I can give each other a bear hug or a pat on the back, but the kiss thing is never going to happen. To be fully formed, children need to be free to generously receive from and express affection to parents of both genders. Genderless marriages deny this fullness.

There are perhaps a hundred different things, small and large, that are negotiated between parents and kids every week. Moms and dads interact differently with their children. To give kids two moms or two dads is to withhold from them someone whom they desperately need and deserve in order to be whole and happy. It is to permanently etch “deprivation” on their hearts...."
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/03/943...
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Mar 29, 2013
 
It's against my beliefs

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Mar 29, 2013
 
Would you fu**ing cretins learn what words mean? Unisex and genderless are not synonymous. Genderless refers to a lack of gender; unisex refers to a melding of gender traits/stereotypes. Neither refer to a marriage between two people of the same gender.

It's not a new standard--it already exists. Your idiotic claims of segregation are nonsensical--if the two SS partners didn't marry each other, they still wouldn't marry the opposite sex.

Husbands and wives are already disposable, given hetero divorce rates.
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<quoted text>Same sex marriage would force government to treat marriage as if gender was unimportant and insignificant. It would define a new unisex standard of law not present in history or present law. It would force a form of gender segregation onto the institution of marriage.
Same sex marriage is genderless, unisex marriage where husbands and wives would be disposable under the law. That's why same sex marriage is bad.

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Mar 29, 2013
 
This putz evidently has no involvement in his own community, because children of SS couples aren't yearning for an OS parent. They are just as happy with their parents as their OS-raised peers. Nor is evil objective.

He obviously DOES repress his homosexuality, unless he's a closeted bisexual.

He also has never been exposed to other cultures, where father/son kisses aren't unusual. The fact that he can't engage in that form of non-sexual intimacy only points out his own repression--and desires. I'm openly gay and have given straight guys pecks on the cheek, and they me--it's a form of affection divorcedi from sexual mpulse.
Brian_G wrote:
'm Gay and I Oppose Same-Sex Marriage
by Doug Mainwaring
within Marriage
March 8th, 2013
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Intellectual Honesty and Surprise Conclusions
Unfortunately, a few years later my marriage ended—a pain known too easily by too many. At this point, the divorce allowed me to explore my homosexuality for the first time in my life.
At first, I felt liberated. I dated some great guys, and was in a couple of long-term relationships. Over several years, intellectual honesty led me to some unexpected conclusions:(1) Creating a family with another man is not completely equal to creating a family with a woman, and (2) denying children parents of both genders at home is an objective evil. Kids need and yearn for both.
It took some doing, but after ten years of divorce, we began to pull our family back together. We have been under one roof for over two years now. Our kids are happier and better off in so many ways. My ex-wife, our kids, and I recently celebrated Thanksgiving and Christmas together and agreed these were the best holidays ever.
Because of my predilections, we deny our own sexual impulses. Has this led to depressing, claustrophobic repression? No. We enjoy each other’s company immensely. It has actually led to psychological health and a flourishing of our family. Did we do this for the sake of tradition? For the sake of religion? No. We did it because reason led us to resist selfish impulses and to seek the best for our children.
And wonderfully, she and I continue to regard each other as “soul mates” now, more than ever.
Over the last couple of years, I’ve found our decision to rebuild our family ratified time after time. One day as I turned to climb the stairs I saw my sixteen-year-old son walk past his mom as she sat reading in the living room. As he did, he paused and stooped down to kiss her and give her a hug, and then continued on. With two dads in the house, this little moment of warmth and tenderness would never have occurred. My varsity-track-and-football-pla ying son and I can give each other a bear hug or a pat on the back, but the kiss thing is never going to happen. To be fully formed, children need to be free to generously receive from and express affection to parents of both genders. Genderless marriages deny this fullness.
There are perhaps a hundred different things, small and large, that are negotiated between parents and kids every week. Moms and dads interact differently with their children. To give kids two moms or two dads is to withhold from them someone whom they desperately need and deserve in order to be whole and happy. It is to permanently etch “deprivation” on their hearts...."
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/03/943...

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Mar 29, 2013
 
Then don't marry another man. Problem solved.
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Mar 29, 2013
 
Same sex marriage means more wasteful government spending:

In shift, Medicare would pay for sex-change operations

March 29, 2013

For the first time since 1981, when it dubbed sex-change operations "experimental," Medicare has opened the door to covering transexual operations, adding to the growing list of operations that would be allowed under Obamacare.

Acting on a new request, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services said it is starting a new analysis that could lift the spending ban for sex-change operations with a goal of making a decision two days after Christmas and on the eve of Obamacare kicking in Jan. 1.

A 30-day public comment period just opened on the proposed "National Coverage Determination."

"Surgical Treatment for Gender Identity Disorder, formerly referred to as transsexual surgery in 140.3, is currently noncovered under the Medicare Part A and Part B programs. The existing policy, which became effective in 1981, states that transsexual surgery is considered experimental," said the notice just posted on the CMS.gov site....
http://washingtonexaminer.com/in-shift-medica...

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