Gay Marriage Debate - Greenville, SC

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Since: Dec 12

Greer, SC

#196 Dec 19, 2012
LisaCP2012 wrote:
Thank you for your questions. I fear that many people are confused about this issue, as you are, yet don't feel able or don't know how to express it. You have done so wonderfully.
First of all, the only prayer that God hears from the unregenerate (you might say, unsaved) is the prayer of repentance and acceptance of Christ's Lordship over all, and personally. So, it is not an issue of 'praying the gay away.' It doesn't matter what your sin of choice is - without salvation through Christ, you are going to be separated from God for all eternity.
The truth of what I say is, in no way, harmed by your analogy. I do not make out that homosexual behavior is caused by chemicals/hormones/etc., only that those things are potentially factors in homosexual desires. I do not make it exclusive to those things though - there might be hundreds or thousands of factors. So, science hasn't come up with a cure because you can't cure sin with medicine. There is no excuse under the sun for sinful behavior. As with all sins, repentance and salvation is the cure. As for treating it like an illness, kleptomaniacs can be treated for their disorder, right? Now, stealing is against the law, but only because its a Biblical precept - as is homosexuality, even though its legal. But even if there were no treatments, we still imprison them for stealing...should we let them steal just because they are pre-disposed to do so? Having a tendency or urge does not excuse it if it is a sinful act. Homosexuality is the only instance where people try to argue otherwise.
As for homosexual acts, I only make a delineation between what we feel like doing and what we actually do. The desires alone do not make you homosexual. No more so that being tempted to murder makes you guilty of murdering, even if the temptation is due to your upbringing or a chemical imbalance...so, for me, I still struggle with homosexual proclivities, 3 years and 2 children into the happiest marriage you will probably ever see...but I do not act on them because it would be sinful.
And you are right. I am in denial. Every true Christian is. Each and every day we deny ourselves, even die to ourselves, to our sinful habits, our 'flesh' as the Bible refers to it...and at the end of the day, when we see that we didn't get it all right all the time, we are able to come before God and ask for His forgiveness and for the strength to repent (turn away from) the sins to which we fell that day.
Do you know the difference between a Christian who sins and an unregenerate person who sins? The unregenerate man accepts his sin, excuses it....the Christian struggles against it, and experiences victory over it, through his salvation...not perfectly, but progressively better and better.
If that's what you believe it's exactly that. It's not my place to judge you because we don't have the same belief about something, But, what I said was we are born this way. If we could choose the way children were born then everyone would be perfect.
come on now

Bolingbrook, IL

#197 Dec 19, 2012
LisaCP2012 wrote:
Thank you for your questions. I fear that many people are confused about this issue, as you are, yet don't feel able or don't know how to express it. You have done so wonderfully.
First of all, the only prayer that God hears from the unregenerate (you might say, unsaved) is the prayer of repentance and acceptance of Christ's Lordship over all, and personally. So, it is not an issue of 'praying the gay away.' It doesn't matter what your sin of choice is - without salvation through Christ, you are going to be separated from God for all eternity.
The truth of what I say is, in no way, harmed by your analogy. I do not make out that homosexual behavior is caused by chemicals/hormones/etc., only that those things are potentially factors in homosexual desires. I do not make it exclusive to those things though - there might be hundreds or thousands of factors. So, science hasn't come up with a cure because you can't cure sin with medicine. There is no excuse under the sun for sinful behavior. As with all sins, repentance and salvation is the cure. As for treating it like an illness, kleptomaniacs can be treated for their disorder, right? Now, stealing is against the law, but only because its a Biblical precept - as is homosexuality, even though its legal. But even if there were no treatments, we still imprison them for stealing...should we let them steal just because they are pre-disposed to do so? Having a tendency or urge does not excuse it if it is a sinful act. Homosexuality is the only instance where people try to argue otherwise.
As for homosexual acts, I only make a delineation between what we feel like doing and what we actually do. The desires alone do not make you homosexual. No more so that being tempted to murder makes you guilty of murdering, even if the temptation is due to your upbringing or a chemical imbalance...so, for me, I still struggle with homosexual proclivities, 3 years and 2 children into the happiest marriage you will probably ever see...but I do not act on them because it would be sinful.
And you are right. I am in denial. Every true Christian is. Each and every day we deny ourselves, even die to ourselves, to our sinful habits, our 'flesh' as the Bible refers to it...and at the end of the day, when we see that we didn't get it all right all the time, we are able to come before God and ask for His forgiveness and for the strength to repent (turn away from) the sins to which we fell that day.
Do you know the difference between a Christian who sins and an unregenerate person who sins? The unregenerate man accepts his sin, excuses it....the Christian struggles against it, and experiences victory over it, through his salvation...not perfectly, but progressively better and better.
Here is the thing... What you say sounds nice. I am sure that it came from a sermon you minster said. The same minister who most likely has been a co conspired in committing adultery..(Remarrying a person divorced for non infidelity reasons). But you dont hear "Christians" rail against divorce and remarriage.
That being said... what you believe just doesn't matter. We are not a theocracy. So the fact that you believe one can pray away the gay.. does not matter. What matters is equal treatment for all citizens.

Now leaving your theological bias out of this... tell me why two u.s. citizens should be denied the right to enter into a civil contract, one which comes with many government benifits, while another group is allowed to enter into said contract. Per the 14th the state must show overwhelming reason for this... what is the states reason?
D

Simpsonville, SC

#198 Apr 25, 2013
I have NEVER supported blatant discrimination based on solely birth.
Kay

United States

#199 Jul 6, 2013
I am gay and I don't feel my sexual preference shouldnt be hated by so many. It's a free country I can make the choices for my life and if being gay is what I want it's my life. I'm not mad about straight people being straight. Also every one does not have the same beliefs its not right to force your beliefs on others.
Kay

United States

#200 Jul 6, 2013
No where in your post did it specifically say a man shouldn't be with a man directly. Or a woman with a woman. We did come from man but that does not mean we have to be with them. However everyone is entitled to there own opinion.
john

Taylors, SC

#201 Aug 9, 2013
You can all take your bible-thumping bigotry and shove it. This is why we need a federal amendment for equal marriage rights because of all of you irrational morons subjugating people because of some goat herders' fairy tale book. Marriage AND homosexuality have been going on long before Judaism. There's simply no excuse for you people... It's sickening.
None of the above

Anderson, SC

#202 Oct 11, 2013
Why do you hate God? If you hate God's children, then you hate God. God created gay's, if you hate gay's then you hate God! Gay's are God's children, he created them.
YOU ARE GOING TO BURN IN HELL HOMOPHOBE.
None of the above

Anderson, SC

#203 Oct 11, 2013
I'm still waiting for a reply you holy-hypocrites.
Penny

Fort Myers, FL

#204 Oct 21, 2013
Love the sinner, hate the sin. It's against the natural design of God; hence the reason homosexuals cannot reproduce.
Chuck Greenville SC

Greenville, SC

#205 Oct 24, 2013
Evan Duke wrote:
Marriage is between a mane and a woman
What on earth is a mane? Gay is good!
Anthony Vallozzi

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#206 Jan 1, 2014
Equal rights for all
Kassie

Riverdale, GA

#207 Mar 10, 2014
Im bisexual but married to a man. Have 3 kids, very cookie cutter. So I've never had any judgment on anyone loving the same sex. My sister recently came out as gay to me and eventually the family and ice never seem her happier! They have been dating secretly for 3 years now and want to have a commitment ceremony and i just hate that she can't have the wedding she always dreamed of!!
charlie

Gastonia, NC

#208 Mar 21, 2014
It is a perversion

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