Gay Marriage Debate - Greeneville, TN

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“Marriage equality for all”

Since: Jul 07

Illinois

#7765 Jan 26, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>

Think of your post and 'marriage' anyway you want.
Here is always the bottom line; It does not change reality.

Smile.
Your opinions, geriatric as they are, don't change reality.

And reality is simply this:

Support for SSM continues to grow. Intelligent (thinking people) realize that marriage equality doesn't affect them in the least. Denying rights to a huge segment of our population is no longer seen as tolerable.

We get it: you won't consider it a real marriage. Like we care what an old Kuntmare thinks.

“Why So Serious...”

Since: Dec 12

Galactic Sector ZZ9 Plural Z A

#7766 Jan 26, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
All the boys say you do get around.
I simply am looking for someone to explain how a gay couple equates to the basic essence of marriage; a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Haven't heard one on NINE topix sites!
Do you have an answer yet?
Snicker.
You've read plenty, you just refuse to believe any of them because your mind is made up on the subject...

“Marriage equality for all”

Since: Jul 07

Illinois

#7767 Jan 26, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
All the boys say you do get around.
I simply am looking for someone to explain how a gay couple equates to the basic essence of marriage; a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Haven't heard one on NINE topix sites!
Do you have an answer yet?
Snicker.
Couples are couples are couples. Gender doesn't make a couple, love makes a couple.

They even recognize that in places like Missoula, Montana and Dillsburg, Pennsylvania.

“Marriage equality for all”

Since: Jul 07

Illinois

#7768 Jan 26, 2013
Marengo Jon wrote:
<quoted text>
Couples are couples are couples. Gender doesn't make a couple, love makes a couple.
They even recognize that in places like Missoula, Montana and Dillsburg, Pennsylvania.
And even places like Hawaii.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7769 Jan 27, 2013
whothehellcares- wrote:
<quoted text>
You've read plenty, you just refuse to believe any of them because your mind is made up on the subject...
Hardly honey,

I simply have a grip on reality. You have no response;

Here is the irony. I simply state among numerous things, two simple facts;

1. Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior

2. Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning. Nothing hateful in those statements.

You just don't like the reality of those truths.

Get back if you have a logical, reasoned response.

Otherwise it is you who has her mind 'made up'.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7770 Jan 27, 2013
Marengo Jon wrote:
<quoted text>
Couples are couples are couples. Gender doesn't make a couple, love makes a couple.
They even recognize that in places like Missoula, Montana and Dillsburg, Pennsylvania.
There are people in denial everywhere. You are a perfect example.

Look at your post above. Are you talking about my love for my son? Does that make us a couple? Wait, I have two sons! Is that polygamy???

Now I know why you usually just give troll responses...

You are seriously stupid. And clearly in denial. With no logical reasoned answers.

Chuckle.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7771 Jan 27, 2013
Marengo Jon wrote:
<quoted text>
And even places like Hawaii.
Twenty Five years.

Jealous?

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#7772 Jan 27, 2013
I have found a poem on a personal blog called "If You" that I believe KiMare has plagiarized... Look at it and let me know if it sounds familiar...

by Gr...y Kir...n

If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love

If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage

If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage

If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders

If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history

If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no effect

If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships

If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity

If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent

If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act

If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end

If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest

If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none

If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'

Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.

----------

I won't name the author of this poem because maybe KiMare is the real author. But maybe not...

“Marriage equality for all”

Since: Jul 07

Illinois

#7774 Jan 27, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
There are people in denial everywhere. You are a perfect example.
Look at your post above. Are you talking about my love for my son? Does that make us a couple? Wait, I have two sons! Is that polygamy???
Now I know why you usually just give troll responses...
You are seriously stupid. And clearly in denial. With no logical reasoned answers.
Chuckle.
No, I am certainly not talking about your son. Aside from mocking your love-making to your wife, I am not about to drag someone's family into a discussion. I'm merely pointing out that in oddest of places, support for same-sex marriage continues to grow.

I'm talking about two non-related consenting adults in committed relationship who bond in marriage. The point is that whether they are m/f, m/m/, or f/f, there is NO impact on your life.

“Marriage equality for all”

Since: Jul 07

Illinois

#7775 Jan 27, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Twenty Five years.
Jealous?
Not really.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#7776 Jan 27, 2013
Marengo Jon wrote:
<quoted text>
Not really.
Message sent to your TOPIX email.
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#7777 Jan 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Message sent to your TOPIX email.
Simply the truth!

This child was given birth based entirely upon a host of homosexual lies, moral corruption, financial corruption, and a host of other corruptions all promulgated via lying homosexuals and the perversion they promote! This is one of the reasons the homosexuals try to get TVOSR to talk about other things! They don't like being exposed for what they really are! They support these monsters and what they did to this child!

In Luke 17:1-2 Jesus declares that “offenses will come,” but then adds,“but woe be to the one who cause offenses”.

In Matthew 18:1-10 we learn that Jesus particularly warns individuals of the dire consequences that will befall those who offend little children or young Christians!

As we consider this great atrocity that has been perpetrated against this child, we must naturally place the child's lifelong welfare and emotions first! Although when a person considers what really went on behind the scenes, one realizes that this child's future was never considered in terms of negative personal and emotional pain! As a individual looks at who the players were that, participated in this most Frankenstein of concepts, they become very aware of the fact that there were mainly four monsters involved in this lab experiment, that created this experimental child!

[1] The Elton John monster!

[2] The David Furnish monster!

[3] The Biological monster that provided the egg!

[4] The Surrogate monster that accepted the biological monsters egg!

Clearly this whole experiment that was hatched in Frankenstein's lab, was given birth based upon several personal interests at several different levels! It would be hard to identify who the chief monster was, given so many were involved! This child was clearly brought into this world based upon mans selfishness and greed! No thought, no love, no concern, no consideration for the well-being of this child was ever considered! Everyone involved got something, at the expense of the child, and with the exception of the child! Clearly the Biological and Surrogate monsters were well paid for their participation in this corrupt experiment! The other two monsters involvement was clearly driven via selfishness and corruption, driven by a desire to posses something that, because of the corrupt lifestyle both monsters have chosen to in-gauge in! God, by his wisdom and consideration for the well-being of all children has denied them! And now there is a child that one day will grow to become a very troubled and tortured soul, as the child comes too the true realization of how and why it was created, and the monsters involved in its creation! Many of whom will remain anonymous through out the child's lifetime! Jesus Christ said that there would be offenses and atrocities brought about by man and perpetrated upon children! He also said, God help the individuals that commits these offenses and atrocities against children! You may laugh and scoff and twist as you sit upon the sidelines of life! But some day there will be Godly justice for this child and the helpless! The eternal wheels of Gods justice may grind slowly, but they grind finely! There is also a fifth monster involved in this Frankenstein experiment! And its name is, Homosexual Ideology!

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#7778 Jan 27, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>
Simply the truth!
This child was given birth based entirely upon a host of homosexual lies, moral corruption, financial corruption, and a host of other corruptions all promulgated via lying homosexuals and the perversion they promote! This is one of the reasons the homosexuals try to get TVOSR to talk about other things! They don't like being exposed for what they really are! They support these monsters and what they did to this child!
In Luke 17:1-2 Jesus declares that “offenses will come,” but then adds,“but woe be to the one who cause offenses”.
In Matthew 18:1-10 we learn that Jesus particularly warns individuals of the dire consequences that will befall those who offend little children or young Christians!
As we consider this great atrocity that has been perpetrated against this child, we must naturally place the child's lifelong welfare and emotions first! Although when a person considers what really went on behind the scenes, one realizes that this child's future was never considered in terms of negative personal and emotional pain! As a individual looks at who the players were that, participated in this most Frankenstein of concepts, they become very aware of the fact that there were mainly four monsters involved in this lab experiment, that created this experimental child!
[1] The Elton John monster!
[2] The David Furnish monster!
[3] The Biological monster that provided the egg!
[4] The Surrogate monster that accepted the biological monsters egg!
Clearly this whole experiment that was hatched in Frankenstein's lab, was given birth based upon several personal interests at several different levels! It would be hard to identify who the chief monster was, given so many were involved! This child was clearly brought into this world based upon mans selfishness and greed! No thought, no love, no concern, no consideration for the well-being of this child was ever considered! Everyone involved got something, at the expense of the child, and with the exception of the child! Clearly the Biological and Surrogate monsters were well paid for their participation in this corrupt experiment! The other two monsters involvement was clearly driven via selfishness and corruption, driven by a desire to posses something that, because of the corrupt lifestyle both monsters have chosen to in-gauge in! God, by his wisdom and consideration for the well-being of all children has denied them! And now there is a child that one day will grow to become a very troubled and tortured soul, as the child comes too the true realization of how and why it was created, and the monsters involved in its creation! Many of whom will remain anonymous through out the child's lifetime! Jesus Christ said that there would be offenses and atrocities brought about by man and perpetrated upon children! He also said, God help the individuals that commits these offenses and atrocities against children! You may laugh and scoff and twist as you sit upon the sidelines of life! But some day there will be Godly justice for this child and the helpless! The eternal wheels of Gods justice may grind slowly, but they grind finely! There is also a fifth monster involved in this Frankenstein experiment! And its name is, Homosexual Ideology!
Honey, if you expect to get anywhere in this life, you must first learn to make yourself clear.

Now what's this all about? Are you upset about gay couples having children--either through adoption or surrogacy?

You don't live in these people's houses. You don't know how their children are being raised--if they are successful.

Take a chill pill before you have a stroke. You are WAY TOO involved in this issue.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7779 Jan 27, 2013
Marengo Jon wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I am certainly not talking about your son. Aside from mocking your love-making to your wife, I am not about to drag someone's family into a discussion. I'm merely pointing out that in oddest of places, support for same-sex marriage continues to grow.
I'm talking about two non-related consenting adults in committed relationship who bond in marriage. The point is that whether they are m/f, m/m/, or f/f, there is NO impact on your life.
And I'm simply saying that at it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint of evolutionary mating behavior.

Out of all relationships, there are none that are more opposite that basic essence than gay couples.

Nothing you said changes that fact. Call it unmarriage or what ever you want, but it is not marriage.

Just a note; You not only can't categorically state it will have no affect on my life or anyone else's, it is impossible for that to be true.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7780 Jan 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
I have found a poem on a personal blog called "If You" that I believe KiMare has plagiarized... Look at it and let me know if it sounds familiar...
by Gr...y Kir...n
If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love
If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage
If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage
If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders
If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history
If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no effect
If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships
If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity
If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent
If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act
If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end
If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest
If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none
If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'
Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.
----------
I won't name the author of this poem because maybe KiMare is the real author. But maybe not...
You got it Tom.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#7781 Jan 27, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You got it Tom.
So you wrote the poem? You didn't plagiarize it from the person's website I found?

Don't know why you hid for so long.

Do you think people around Greeneville will treat you differently now that they might be able to search you out by looking up your poem?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7782 Jan 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
So you wrote the poem? You didn't plagiarize it from the person's website I found?
Don't know why you hid for so long.
Do you think people around Greeneville will treat you differently now that they might be able to search you out by looking up your poem?
I'm not looking to be a hero in Greeneville.

Smile.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#7783 Jan 27, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
And I'm simply saying that at it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint of evolutionary mating behavior.
Out of all relationships, there are none that are more opposite that basic essence than gay couples.
Nothing you said changes that fact. Call it unmarriage or what ever you want, but it is not marriage.
Just a note; You not only can't categorically state it will have no affect on my life or anyone else's, it is impossible for that to be true.
Smile.
I'm curious, KiMare; you keep referring to epigenetics and genetic defect when talking about gays and lesbians.

And it occurred to me that developmentally disabled people (formerly referred to as the mentally retarded) are not only allowed to marry, but also allowed to have off-spring. In fact in 1942, the Supreme Court found that human procreation is a fundamental right of all citizens.

Seems like if you were so concerned about evolutionary processes you would be aware of this issue and fighting it just as vehemently as you are same-sex marriage.

Personally, I don't believe you're that concerned about evolution or same-sex marriage for that matter.

After having read your blog (as well as the other stuff said about you on the Internet) I think you are someone who doggedly latches onto a topic whether you have true feelings about it or not.

You claim same-sex marriage will impact you, but you've never spent a lot of time discussing just how it will impact you or your family.

Instead of distractions like "save the children" and "cross-cultural constraints", why don't you focus on how it is that you, personally, will be impacted.

Maybe people would take you more seriously.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#7784 Jan 27, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not looking to be a hero in Greeneville.
Smile.
I don't think anyone looks at you as a hero. I just wonder if you were worried about being embarrassed with the kinds of graphic stuff you've said on here.

Keep in mind, I have not identified you. That's not my intention. You put own identity out there when you kept posting your poem.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7785 Jan 27, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm curious, KiMare; you keep referring to epigenetics and genetic defect when talking about gays and lesbians.
And it occurred to me that developmentally disabled people (formerly referred to as the mentally retarded) are not only allowed to marry, but also allowed to have off-spring. In fact in 1942, the Supreme Court found that human procreation is a fundamental right of all citizens.
Seems like if you were so concerned about evolutionary processes you would be aware of this issue and fighting it just as vehemently as you are same-sex marriage.
Personally, I don't believe you're that concerned about evolution or same-sex marriage for that matter.
After having read your blog (as well as the other stuff said about you on the Internet) I think you are someone who doggedly latches onto a topic whether you have true feelings about it or not.
You claim same-sex marriage will impact you, but you've never spent a lot of time discussing just how it will impact you or your family.
Instead of distractions like "save the children" and "cross-cultural constraints", why don't you focus on how it is that you, personally, will be impacted.
Maybe people would take you more seriously.
The fundamental question is, does a gay couple, or any other relationship for that matter, equate to marriage.

Nothing else matters until you settle that issue.

Even more so, your demand for how it will affect can only be speculation. That is why you want to avoid specific facts and provable issues.

Bazinga!

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