Gay Marriage Debate - Greeneville, TN

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#7332 Jan 2, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Interestingly, we live in a country that is run by the rule of law--not the law of Christianity or any other religion. So our legislators, regardless of your opinion, absolutely have the right to define marriage as they see fit.
And under the law of this country, "mating" isn't a requirement for marriage. Heck, children aren't even mentioned in the traditional Christian wedding vows.
Many couples, who have no intention of having children, are allowed to marry. Are you prepared to change laws to define marriage as only being available to those that produce children?
Give up, Kim. You're wrong on all counts.
If you want to live in a place where the laws are based on religion, go to the Middle East.
Where did I mention religion?

Smirk.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#7333 Jan 2, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
So, if homosexuality is a genetic defect and a handicap, then we should immediately be given equal rights under the law. Look at the laws governing equal access for the handicapped.
Of course, you qualify for handicapped. Redumbant couples don't for marriage.

Smirk.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#7334 Jan 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course, you qualify for handicapped. Redumbant couples don't for marriage.
Smirk.
Then you can help me apply for all of the government benefits for handicapped people.

And "smirks" make you look gay. I've often had my suspicions about you...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#7335 Jan 2, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you can help me apply for all of the government benefits for handicapped people.
And "smirks" make you look gay. I've often had my suspicions about you...
I'm married VV. Happily.

Sorry.

Smile.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#7336 Jan 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm married VV. Happily.
Sorry.
Smile.
I've known a lot of "married" gay men. And I've always wondered about "straight" men who are fascinated--obsessed--with what gay men do.

You know, I've got a saying; "Hell hath no fury like a closeted gay man."

You've been here for nearly 2 years--expressing your "expert opinion" on homosexuality. And yet you still claim to be a heterosexual.

I just don't get it. What's your fascination with us?

I'm a gay man. I have a reason to be interested in this issue. What's up with you and men-on-man sex?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7337 Jan 2, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
I've known a lot of "married" gay men. And I've always wondered about "straight" men who are fascinated--obsessed--with what gay men do.
You know, I've got a saying; "Hell hath no fury like a closeted gay man."
You've been here for nearly 2 years--expressing your "expert opinion" on homosexuality. And yet you still claim to be a heterosexual.
I just don't get it. What's your fascination with us?
I'm a gay man. I have a reason to be interested in this issue. What's up with you and men-on-man sex?
Getting forgetful in your old age VV,
My purpose?
1. Homosexuality is a defect, proved simply by the inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex, the primary expression of gay sexuality. Now quickly being proved by the discovery of mistaken genetic epi-markers.
2. Marriage is the cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. Homosexuality is a direct conflict, a violent defect of the very fundamental purpose of evolution.
Equating a defect with a design refined by millions of years is silly stupid.
The reality of all of this is quickly undermining all the gay twirl denial you are demanding everyone accept.
How foolish that will make you look. How angry that will make everyone else.
Any other questions?
:-)

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7338 Jan 2, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
I've known a lot of "married" gay men. And I've always wondered about "straight" men who are fascinated--obsessed--with what gay men do.
You know, I've got a saying; "Hell hath no fury like a closeted gay man."
You've been here for nearly 2 years--expressing your "expert opinion" on homosexuality. And yet you still claim to be a heterosexual.
I just don't get it. What's your fascination with us?
I'm a gay man. I have a reason to be interested in this issue. What's up with you and men-on-man sex?
I realize I may have misunderstood you.

I know I come across as a strong man to a queen.
But seriously, I'm not interested.

Are you mad?

:-)

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#7339 Jan 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Getting forgetful in your old age VV,
My purpose?
1. Homosexuality is a defect, proved simply by the inherent harm, unhealthiness and demeaning nature of anal sex, the primary expression of gay sexuality. Now quickly being proved by the discovery of mistaken genetic epi-markers.
2. Marriage is the cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. Homosexuality is a direct conflict, a violent defect of the very fundamental purpose of evolution.
Equating a defect with a design refined by millions of years is silly stupid.
The reality of all of this is quickly undermining all the gay twirl denial you are demanding everyone accept.
How foolish that will make you look. How angry that will make everyone else.
Any other questions?
:-)
Yeah, yeah, yeah... I've heard your excuses before, but it still doesn't answer my question. You never have.

You have purposefully educated yourself about all things gay. You seem to know more about being gay than most gay men I know.

And most straight men who have an obsession with homosexuality are typically focused on "lesbians", who you seem to have very little to say anything about. It's always "anal sex" that you're interested in.

You've accused me of insulting you in the past. Obviously I'm not trying to insult you by insinuating that you are gay or at least a confused bisexual. I'm supportive of all gays--including those who are self-loathing and closeted.

Get some help... Get some insight... Try to get to the REAL root of your fascination.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7340 Jan 2, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, yeah, yeah... I've heard your excuses before, but it still doesn't answer my question. You never have.
You have purposefully educated yourself about all things gay. You seem to know more about being gay than most gay men I know.
And most straight men who have an obsession with homosexuality are typically focused on "lesbians", who you seem to have very little to say anything about. It's always "anal sex" that you're interested in.
You've accused me of insulting you in the past. Obviously I'm not trying to insult you by insinuating that you are gay or at least a confused bisexual. I'm supportive of all gays--including those who are self-loathing and closeted.
Get some help... Get some insight... Try to get to the REAL root of your fascination.
You make an interesting point.

Why do I know more than most homosexuals about their condition?

Which begs the question, why is there such violent anger towards me for pointing out reality?

It all is typical of the poor person who points out the elephant in the room of denial, doesn't it.

You have no honest response to reality, so you make ad homoan attacks. Do you not see how obvious and immoral that tactic is?

I'm not the one who needs help. Walk through the fear, come out of the closet of denial.

Smile.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#7341 Jan 2, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You make an interesting point.
Why do I know more than most homosexuals about their condition?
Which begs the question, why is there such violent anger towards me for pointing out reality?
It all is typical of the poor person who points out the elephant in the room of denial, doesn't it.
You have no honest response to reality, so you make ad homoan attacks. Do you not see how obvious and immoral that tactic is?
I'm not the one who needs help. Walk through the fear, come out of the closet of denial.
Smile.
Are you a doctor? Are you a biologist? Are you a psychiatrist? Are you an attorney? Do you do research in one of these fields?

You don't know anything. You only think you know about homosexuality.

I don't make attacks on you. I ask simple questions about why you are so fascinated with gays--specifically gay men.

I, who actually possesses advanced degrees in sociology and clinical social work, believe I have an understanding of why it is that straight men becomes so focused on gay men. My God, even a child would be able to see through you.

Don't mistake my observations about you with "attacks".

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7342 Jan 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You make an interesting point.
Why do I know more than most homosexuals about their condition?
Which begs the question, why is there such violent anger towards me for pointing out reality?
It all is typical of the poor person who points out the elephant in the room of denial, doesn't it.
You have no honest response to reality, so you make ad homoan attacks. Do you not see how obvious and immoral that tactic is?
I'm not the one who needs help. Walk through the fear, come out of the closet of denial.
Smile.
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you a doctor? Are you a biologist? Are you a psychiatrist? Are you an attorney? Do you do research in one of these fields?
You don't know anything. You only think you know about homosexuality.
I don't make attacks on you. I ask simple questions about why you are so fascinated with gays--specifically gay men.
I, who actually possesses advanced degrees in sociology and clinical social work, believe I have an understanding of why it is that straight men becomes so focused on gay men. My God, even a child would be able to see through you.
Don't mistake my observations about you with "attacks".
Here is the interesting irony. You don't debate the truth of what I say in all those areas, but instead, you take a classic gay twirl ad homoan attack (trying to insult the other person by calling them gay) and make an on line diagnosis. Something clearly unethical and unprofessional. You would be fired if your supervisor discovered what you did. I could bring ethics charges against you for doing this.

Now, do you have a single, direct answer for my points?

If those are too hard for your professional opinion, here is another one;

Why does a butch lesbian dress and act like a man to attract another lesbian?

:-)
Personified

Durham, NC

#7343 Jan 3, 2013
Because you are in the majority does not at all mean that you're right. None of us are free until all of us are free.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7344 Jan 3, 2013
Personified wrote:
Because you are in the majority does not at all mean that you're right. None of us are free until all of us are free.
Marriage has nothing to do with a majority.

Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. It has been the norm in every single culture in thousands of years of human existence, apart from any single religion or government.

If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love

If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage

If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage

If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders

If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history

If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no affect

If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships

If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity

If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent

If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act

If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end

If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest

If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none

If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'

Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.
Personified

Durham, NC

#7345 Jan 3, 2013
milkmanjr wrote:
just to make it short and sweet i dont think thats what God intended for his work done to turn out like this
If it were not gods intention for there to be gay people, there would not be gay people. I wish He would change His mind about the STUPID. I don't mind stupid in itself. But stupid, AGGressive and judge mental seem to go together........
mohammed_pedophi le

India

#7346 Jan 3, 2013
we in pakistan marry our donkeys!!!!!!
joeman

Greeneville, TN

#7347 Jan 3, 2013
First of all, being straight, I am dubious about this trend. Usually anything that is trendy and ordained by the media and society should be called into question. Gay marriage has become a Social issue. The moral issues have always been outlined in the Holy Bible if anyone wants to read and come to their own conclusion. God loves his children but they do not always live as he wants. This is true for "gay" people as well as "straight" people. How you live your life in relation to your fellow man and your respect for God are the most important aspects in defining your character. If being gay is a sin, Christ will judge that along with all of the rest of us and our actions. Let us forgive each other and live here in harmony while acknowledging a higher power that will decide according to God's will. We will all know by and by.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#7348 Jan 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You make an interesting point.
Why do I know more than most homosexuals about their condition?
Which begs the question, why is there such violent anger towards me for pointing out reality?
It all is typical of the poor person who points out the elephant in the room of denial, doesn't it.
You have no honest response to reality, so you make ad homoan attacks. Do you not see how obvious and immoral that tactic is?
I'm not the one who needs help. Walk through the fear, come out of the closet of denial.
Smile.
<quoted text>
Here is the interesting irony. You don't debate the truth of what I say in all those areas, but instead, you take a classic gay twirl ad homoan attack (trying to insult the other person by calling them gay) and make an on line diagnosis. Something clearly unethical and unprofessional. You would be fired if your supervisor discovered what you did. I could bring ethics charges against you for doing this.
Now, do you have a single, direct answer for my points?
If those are too hard for your professional opinion, here is another one;
Why does a butch lesbian dress and act like a man to attract another lesbian?
:-)
You assume that "butch lesbians" dress in a certain way in order to attract other lesbians. Maybe "butch lesbians" just enjoy wearing a particular style of clothing. Many talk about shunning traditional feminine style as a political statement.

My guess is that lesbian women, just like straight men (or gay men or straight women) dress in the way that they do in order to feel good about themselves. If they are going out on the town for the specific purposes of finding someone to go out with, they may dress differently than they do day-to-day.

Gay people are not simple and stupid. We're not always on the look out for a mate. We don't dress in certain ways ONLY to catch someones eye.

Now... Here's my New Year's resolution for you. It's not a clinical recommendation, so you don't have to worry about me being unethical or anything. But here it is... RUN to the nearest mirror. Drop everything right this second and RUSH to one.

Once you get there, stare at your reflection and repeat the following words: "What other people do within the law IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS! How other people wish to live their lives is no concern of mine! If someones actions do not impact me directly, then I don't have any reason to intrude into their life!"

Just repeat it over and over and over. Eventually (hopefully) you'll finally get the message that your concerns should only be about those things that impact you directly.

What other people do with their lives, within the law, is none of your concern.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#7349 Jan 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Marriage has nothing to do with a majority.
Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. It has been the norm in every single culture in thousands of years of human existence, apart from any single religion or government.
If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love
If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage
If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage
If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders
If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history
If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no affect
If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships
If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity
If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent
If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act
If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end
If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest
If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none
If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'
Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.
I like to refer to this as your "F U" (as in F*CK YOU) poem. You trot it out every so often, believing that you've created something clever.

All it shows is that you spend an inordinate amount of time involving yourself in other people's private affairs.

And it shows the inordinate amount of power you give to historical activity; when clearly, not all of history is to be embraced. We don't continue to enslave our people. We don't continue to deny women the right to vote. There have been so many social changes over the past decades and centuries.

So, "If YOU" get the feeling to re-post this bit again, remind yourself that striving to live as our forefathers is not always in the best interest of society.
straight up

Locust, NC

#7350 Jan 3, 2013
I Can clear all this up , butch lesbians do not want to attract the males so they dont dress feminine , we all sin but are saved by grace we do not live under the old testemant .I am pro gay marriage , you should be able to love whomever you want and love with a heart like Jesus love one another doesnt matter creed face sexual orientation monetary worth class and so on and so forth
straight up

Locust, NC

#7351 Jan 3, 2013
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