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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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Jan 2, 2013
 
Genesis 2:18 (MSG) GOD said, "It's not good for the Man to be alone; I'll make him a helper, a companion."
Do you realize that God made Adam, took 'him' apart, and then put 'them' back together as one in marriage? You might say that what was originally a simple life form became a much more complex union! God designed husband and wife to be 'accessories' that complement each other.
I love what the definition of complement explains;
1. something that completes or makes perfect
2. the quantity or amount that completes anything
3. either of two parts or things needed to complete the whole; counterpart.
4. full quantity or amount; complete allowance.
To complement is to provide something felt to be lacking or needed. It is often applied to putting together two things, each of which supplies what is lacking in the other, to make a complete whole.
To supplement is merely to add to. A same-sex union can only supplement what is already primarily a duplication. The diversity of marriage is as some have graphically described, the union of Mars and Venus.
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Jan 2, 2013
 
Here is the context from Leviticus 18;

Abortion, homosexual sex and bestiality are condemned in that order. The passage then concludes with these words;

Leviticus 18:24-25 (NASB)
24 'Do not defile yourselves by any of these things; for by all these the nations which I am casting out before you have become defiled.
25 ~'For the land has become defiled, therefore I have brought its punishment upon it, so the land has spewed out its inhabitants.

Just an interesting note. Among numerous smaller examples, The Roman and Mayan empires disintegrated when those behaviors became common.

On another level, orientation is not a sin. Behavior can be. Anal sex (the primary sexual expression of homosexuality) is a violation of design. It is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.

Even primitive cultures thousands of years ago understood the unnaturalness of the condition. That is why marriage has been present from start to finish of every single culture, while gay 'marriage' has never been accepted, established and spread. Quite profound considering the hundreds of thousands of years humans have existed.
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Jan 2, 2013
 
KiMare wrote:
Genesis 2:18 (MSG) GOD said, "It's not good for the Man to be alone; I'll make him a helper, a companion."
Do you realize that God made Adam, took 'him' apart, and then put 'them' back together as one in marriage? You might say that what was originally a simple life form became a much more complex union! God designed husband and wife to be 'accessories' that complement each other.
I love what the definition of complement explains;
1. something that completes or makes perfect
2. the quantity or amount that completes anything
3. either of two parts or things needed to complete the whole; counterpart.
4. full quantity or amount; complete allowance.
To complement is to provide something felt to be lacking or needed. It is often applied to putting together two things, each of which supplies what is lacking in the other, to make a complete whole.
To supplement is merely to add to. A same-sex union can only supplement what is already primarily a duplication. The diversity of marriage is as some have graphically described, the union of Mars and Venus.
Happy New Year!
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Funny you use the Bible... when even it says God made the homosexual
John 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

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Jan 2, 2013
 
come on now wrote:
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Funny you use the Bible... when even it says God made the homosexual
John 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
Do you read what you write?

Does that include murders? Pedophiles?

Ever hear of free will?

If you are going to pick up gay twirl talking points, you had better have thought them through carefully.

Smirk.
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#7316
Jan 2, 2013
 
KiMare wrote:
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Do you read what you write?
Does that include murders? Pedophiles?
Ever hear of free will?
If you are going to pick up gay twirl talking points, you had better have thought them through carefully.
Smirk.
Just going by the same Bible you go by...
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Jan 2, 2013
 
ByTheWay wrote:
-Gay couples do not equate to marriage. You have every opportunity to procure your own rights without embezzling the care of women and children that marriage procures.
Embezzling the care of women and children?Really???
FACT: EVERYONE who has a job pays into Social Security.
FACT: GLBT and SINGLE people have their taxes go to Social Security, just like yours does.
FACT: Social Security is SUPPOSED to be destributed to ANYONE who has worked, paid into it, and reaches retirement.
FACT: I just shot major holes into your asinine, bigoted, FALSE comment about "Embezzling the care of women and children.
BECAUSE: If you paid into it, you're entitled to it AND IF (insert word of your choice here, I'm flexible) ever passes between 2 of any GLBT that EVER paid into Social Security, they will then have the RIGHT to collect THEIRS as well as THEIR PARTNERS because they paid into it, their partner would WANT them to have it, and since the partner paid into it ALSO they WILL BE entitled. Which is the REAL reason people like you don't want it passed. YOU would rather all the Social Security paid into by GLBT AND SINGLE people NOT be collected by ANYONE, thus assuring there IS enough Social Security to support YOU until the day you die. HONESTY. Hurts sometimes, doesn't it? NOW, read this several times so the reality of the TRUTH sinks into that melon, because whatever god you worship CAN SEE INTO YOUR HEART and knows you know the truth. THEN, walk around the block and explain it to yourself BEFORE you come back and post a rebuttal I am SURE will be ripped to smithereens should you be so foolhardy as to TRY to defend the embezzling from women and children crap. EVERYONE paid so NO ONE IS EMBEZZLING. I do hope I've simplified it enough for you? NEXT!
FACT:I work and do NOT pay social security,nor will I draw social security or Medicare. FACT:gays make me sick. Get your facts right.........jack!
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Jan 2, 2013
 
[QUOTE who="BL&ET"]< quoted text>
FACT:I work and do NOT pay social security,nor will I draw social security or Medicare. FACT:gays make me sick. Get your facts right.........jack![/QUOTE]
As long as gays make you sick.. that is a heck of a reason to deny civil rights....
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Jan 2, 2013
 
come on now wrote:
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FACT:I work and do NOT pay social security,nor will I draw social security or Medicare. FACT:gays make me sick. Get your facts right.........jack!"

As long as gays make you sick.. that is a heck of a reason to deny civil rights....
Well,700,00 of us don't pay Ssi. Get over it. Ours came first
Straight guy seriously

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#7320
Jan 2, 2013
 
Do they fool around on each other?

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Jan 2, 2013
 
come on now wrote:
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Just going by the same Bible you go by...
Hardly. Otherwise you wouldn't write something so stupid.

Please answer, did God make murder's and pedophiles to name a few.

By your 'reasoning', sin could not exist.

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Jan 2, 2013
 
KiMare wrote:
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You mean like EVERYONE still pays for the cost of AIDS?
There are distinct rights for a number of situations; minorities, handicapped. Marriage is one of them, established to protect mothers and children.
Two men don't qualify. Quite trying to steal resources and hide behind women and children.
Man up!!!
Kind of like the LGBT Community pays for your kids to have an education and pays for families who cannot financially support their own children.

You know the kinds of families I'm talking about don't you? The people who decide to have 5 or 6 kids, but don't have the financial income to cover them... They apply for and get housing assistance, health care assistance, food assistance, etc... And we single LGBT people--who will never have children--pay to support them. We also support all of the single parent families where a dead-beat parent is absent.

I'm sure our outlay is much more than any amount you straight people pay for HIV/AIDS. Keep in mind, not all people who have HIV/AIDS are gay.

By the way, we live in a country of individual rights--not one that only protects mothers, families, children, etc.

Marriage has been deemed a civil right by the Supreme Court 14 times. And under the 14th Amendment, all U.S. citizens are entitled to equal rights and protections under the law.

If religious organizations want to rename marriage to something that ONLY Christians or Jews or Muslims want to define, then that's entirely up to them.

But in this country, "marriage" is a legal term.
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#7323
Jan 2, 2013
 
KiMare wrote:
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Hardly. Otherwise you wouldn't write something so stupid.
Please answer, did God make murder's and pedophiles to name a few.
By your 'reasoning', sin could not exist.
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According to John he did. I mean we are to take the Bible at its word... are we not
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Jan 2, 2013
 
People can't help who they love. Why should any one deny a couple rights because of their gender? Isn't that discrimination??

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veryvermilion wrote:
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Kind of like the LGBT Community pays for your kids to have an education and pays for families who cannot financially support their own children.
You know the kinds of families I'm talking about don't you? The people who decide to have 5 or 6 kids, but don't have the financial income to cover them... They apply for and get housing assistance, health care assistance, food assistance, etc... And we single LGBT people--who will never have children--pay to support them. We also support all of the single parent families where a dead-beat parent is absent.
I'm sure our outlay is much more than any amount you straight people pay for HIV/AIDS. Keep in mind, not all people who have HIV/AIDS are gay.
By the way, we live in a country of individual rights--not one that only protects mothers, families, children, etc.
Marriage has been deemed a civil right by the Supreme Court 14 times. And under the 14th Amendment, all U.S. citizens are entitled to equal rights and protections under the law.
If religious organizations want to rename marriage to something that ONLY Christians or Jews or Muslims want to define, then that's entirely up to them.
But in this country, "marriage" is a legal term.
Still in that frenzied limp wristed gay twirl dance, aren't you?

3.3% of gays in the population, many who have children from broken marriage, hardly cover the continued cost of AIDS, let alone schooling for straights.

Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. No legislature or court has the power to redefine it. If they call the tail on a dog a leg, what is it? Even a CHILD knows the difference between two redumbant genders and mom and dad. You know it too for that matter.

How you doing?

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Jan 2, 2013
 
KiMare wrote:
Here is the context from Leviticus 18;
Abortion, homosexual sex and bestiality are condemned in that order. The passage then concludes with these words;
Leviticus 18:24-25 (NASB)
24 'Do not defile yourselves by any of these things; for by all these the nations which I am casting out before you have become defiled.
25 ~'For the land has become defiled, therefore I have brought its punishment upon it, so the land has spewed out its inhabitants.
Just an interesting note. Among numerous smaller examples, The Roman and Mayan empires disintegrated when those behaviors became common.
On another level, orientation is not a sin. Behavior can be. Anal sex (the primary sexual expression of homosexuality) is a violation of design. It is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
Even primitive cultures thousands of years ago understood the unnaturalness of the condition. That is why marriage has been present from start to finish of every single culture, while gay 'marriage' has never been accepted, established and spread. Quite profound considering the hundreds of thousands of years humans have existed.
You love Leviticus don't you? But what does the New Testament say about the old laws? I believe Christ was born, lived, died, and resurrected to save mankind--not through the laws, but through His sacrifice and belief in Him.

That's why you don't follow all of the 613 laws listed in the Old Testament.

And don't give me that crap about homosexuality being the cause of Rome's fall. That's a myth and you know it.

Finally, as I've told you dozens of times on this forum, anal sex is not restricted to the homosexual community. It has been a means of contraception for eons, as well as a preferred means of intercourse among heterosexual couples.

No one is being defiled.

So, please, for the last time, get your nose out of people's asses. It's simply none of your business.

And so you know, not all gays are involved in anal intercourse; just like not all straight people are involved in vaginal intercourse. There are all kinds of things people can do with one another. You've been married for a few years, so I'm sure you're aware of all of that.

The Supreme Court of the U.S. has determined that anal sex is not unlawful in this country. Bottom line, just get your nose out of other people's business.

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no one wrote:
People can't help who they love. Why should any one deny a couple rights because of their gender? Isn't that discrimination??
1. Yes they can.

2. No one is stopping anyone from love.

3. Marriage is a special right for a specific reason. At it's most basic roots, it is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. Homosexuality is a direct conflict, a violent defect of the very core of evolution, survival.

4. Homosexuality is most likely a genetic epi-marker defect. As such, homosexuality is qualified for handicapped rights, not marriage. Chances are genetic prevention of homosexuality will soon be developed.

Smile.

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KiMare wrote:
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Hardly. Otherwise you wouldn't write something so stupid.
Please answer, did God make murder's and pedophiles to name a few.
By your 'reasoning', sin could not exist.
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According to John he did. I mean we are to take the Bible at its word... are we not
Can't answer my questions? Wonder why?

We are to take the Bible at all it's words and in context.

You are playing immature games. How old are you?

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#7329
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KiMare wrote:
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Still in that frenzied limp wristed gay twirl dance, aren't you?
3.3% of gays in the population, many who have children from broken marriage, hardly cover the continued cost of AIDS, let alone schooling for straights.
Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. No legislature or court has the power to redefine it. If they call the tail on a dog a leg, what is it? Even a CHILD knows the difference between two redumbant genders and mom and dad. You know it too for that matter.
How you doing?
:-)
Interestingly, we live in a country that is run by the rule of law--not the law of Christianity or any other religion. So our legislators, regardless of your opinion, absolutely have the right to define marriage as they see fit.

And under the law of this country, "mating" isn't a requirement for marriage. Heck, children aren't even mentioned in the traditional Christian wedding vows.

Many couples, who have no intention of having children, are allowed to marry. Are you prepared to change laws to define marriage as only being available to those that produce children?

Give up, Kim. You're wrong on all counts.

If you want to live in a place where the laws are based on religion, go to the Middle East.

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Jan 2, 2013
 
KiMare wrote:
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1. Yes they can.
2. No one is stopping anyone from love.
3. Marriage is a special right for a specific reason. At it's most basic roots, it is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. Homosexuality is a direct conflict, a violent defect of the very core of evolution, survival.
4. Homosexuality is most likely a genetic epi-marker defect. As such, homosexuality is qualified for handicapped rights, not marriage. Chances are genetic prevention of homosexuality will soon be developed.
Smile.
So, if homosexuality is a genetic defect and a handicap, then we should immediately be given equal rights under the law. Look at the laws governing equal access for the handicapped.

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#7331
Jan 2, 2013
 
KiMare wrote:
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Do you read what you write?
Does that include murders? Pedophiles?
Ever hear of free will?
If you are going to pick up gay twirl talking points, you had better have thought them through carefully.
Smirk.
Pedophiles and murderers clearly harm other people.

You "opine" that homosexuality is harmful to society. Medicine, psychiatry, and the law beg to differ.

If you don't like the findings of these hundreds of thousands of professionals, then you're more than welcome to create studies and seek laws on your own. Go for it.

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