Gay Marriage Debate - Greeneville, TN

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Opinionated Rube

Fort Campbell, TN

#6654 Jul 30, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I have never said homophobes want to be gay, secretly or otherwise. They can't deal with the same sex attractions they have.
Very lame.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#6655 Jul 30, 2012
NBrandyWine wrote:
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If only your parents had been gay... No further discussion. Seriously, you talk about being gay, in the closet, coming out and all that, have you actually thought about the ramifications of the lifestyle you have chosen to live? Imo if we all served God and loved one another this world would be perfect. Too many selfish people in the world. I once heard that homosexuality is the highest form of narccistic behavior. Something along the lines of loving their own bodies and selves. Makes sense when you think about it. The human race is attempting suicide. Go ahead, sin, sin, sin. Don't be surprised when you end up in hell, there were plenty of signs along the way.
Provide ANY evidence hell exists! That will shut you up.
NBrandyWine wrote:
You hate your parents so much you would deny them a grand child.
I'm straight. I didn't have kids because I didn't want the burdens of raising them. I love my parents, but I don't owe them grand kids!
NBrandyWine wrote:
Not one person has been born gay,
That's not what gay people say.
NBrandyWine wrote:
just like no one is born a liar, thief, murderer. The choices you make turn you into the person you are. I was born white female. I'm not going to run around saying I'm black man. I choose to serve the Lord, me and my family.
There is no evidence your "Lord" exists.

Since: Jun 12

Woodruff, SC

#6656 Jul 30, 2012
veryvermilion wrote:
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You said... "I think of all the lives I've touched, good and bad, and wonder if maybe just maybe I was born for a reason, a purpose. Maybe I said just the right thing to the right person at the right time, and that person ended up curing aids instead of going home to commit suicide."
WOW!!! Narcissistic much?
The end was about abortion, sorry to confuse you. I LOVE homosexual people, I HATE the sin. How is that confusing? Again I will NOT enter theological debate with a NONBELIEVER. I have Faith, I have been saved, I'm going to Heaven, so why is it wrong for me to warn people that they are going down a dead end road that leads to Hell? I want to see you in Heaven some day, is that okay? I don't want your rebellious soul to burn for eternity, is that love or hate?

Since: Jun 12

Woodruff, SC

#6657 Jul 30, 2012
Prove to me Hell doesn't exist. There is plenty of evidence for God. I replied to you mistakenly, should have been a reply to very vermilion.
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Provide ANY evidence hell exists! That will shut you up.
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I'm straight. I didn't have kids because I didn't want the burdens of raising them. I love my parents, but I don't owe them grand kids!
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That's not what gay people say.
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There is no evidence your "Lord" exists.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#6658 Jul 30, 2012
Marengo Jon wrote:
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Worst. Argument. Ever.
The planet is already in peril because of over-population, but you'd have GLBT people marry and pop out more pups?
Further, you didn't choose to be str8 and we didn't choose to be gay. If you don't like gay people, tell your str8 friends to stop producing them.
The world isn't over-populated. Never has been up to this point.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#6659 Jul 30, 2012
Marengo Jon wrote:
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And you want to bust other people's balls for lying?
What a munt.
SecretSmile.
Scoffing is a cover for idiocy.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#6660 Jul 30, 2012
veryvermilion wrote:
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In your world, you would make gays disappear--annihilate us. And that makes you no different than the Nazi (and other) scum who have attempted to wipe the world clear of certain kinds of people.
Godwin's Law

Since: Jun 12

Woodruff, SC

#6661 Jul 30, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Godwin's Law
? Please explain, I must confess I know nothing about this "law"
noneya

Brentwood, TN

#6662 Jul 30, 2012
who cares what one does behind closed doors...It is NO ones business. U all who are bashing the gays probably have friends who are but choose not to let u know for this reason. your best friend could be. You think hey this person is a fun person to hang with or an all around good person and what happens when u find out after all this time? u going to kick your best bud to the curb or u going to accept it? if it bothers u so much quit thinking of what someone does behind closed doors and see the good in them.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#6663 Jul 30, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Sandusky did three things to look normal and disguise his gay pedophilia.
1. Married
2. Claimed to be a Christian
3. Pretended to care about kids
The exact three things gays are trying to do to look normal.
Gays deny children to get married,
acquire children to look married,
and call that normal and Christian.
It does not change reality.
Once again, gays find themselves in the same camp as pedophiles, even though the APA says they are 'out'.
There is no such thing as gay pedophilia...

"Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men2 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-male molestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't implicitly convey unwarranted assumptions about the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes." http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/fa...

Furthermore... "According to Dr. Fred Berlin, a Johns Hopkins University professor who founded the National Institute for the Study, Prevention and Treatment of Sexual Trauma in Baltimore, Md., pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation marked by persistent, sometimes exclusive, attraction to prepubescent children."

So pedophilia is an orientation in itself--it's different from being gay or straight.

Go here and read this for yourself, instead of making up shit that you know NOTHING about.

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And please explain just exactly what you mean by "Gays deny children to get married". How does a gay person deny a child? What the hell does that even mean?

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#6664 Jul 30, 2012
NBrandyWine wrote:
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The end was about abortion, sorry to confuse you. I LOVE homosexual people, I HATE the sin. How is that confusing? Again I will NOT enter theological debate with a NONBELIEVER. I have Faith, I have been saved, I'm going to Heaven, so why is it wrong for me to warn people that they are going down a dead end road that leads to Hell? I want to see you in Heaven some day, is that okay? I don't want your rebellious soul to burn for eternity, is that love or hate?
You ask, "why is it wrong for you to warn people that they are going down a dead end road that leads to Hell?"

Because you were commanded by Christ to not do so. It's pretty simple isn't it? Do not judge.

Do you honestly believe that you have the ability to do God's work for Him? He is the judge--not you. It isn't your job--it's not within your capabilities to judge others.

So back off!

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#6665 Jul 30, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Godwin's Law
Goodwin's Law is an internet joke.

And since the Nazis specifically killed gays because Hitler believed gays would undermine his perfect society, it is a relevant comparison.
Opinionated Rube

Smyrna, TN

#6666 Jul 30, 2012
noneya wrote:
who cares what one does behind closed doors...It is NO ones business. U all who are bashing the gays probably have friends who are but choose not to let u know for this reason. your best friend could be. You think hey this person is a fun person to hang with or an all around good person and what happens when u find out after all this time? u going to kick your best bud to the curb or u going to accept it? if it bothers u so much quit thinking of what someone does behind closed doors and see the good in them.
I have zero interest in what goes on behind closed doors. I would like to ask that it be kept there, and not expect me to call it NORMAL. It is maybe, maybe 1 in 30 people.

Don't try to force anything on me. Don't stage a mass kiss-in at a fricken chicken restaurant. If you don't like someone else's beliefs, don't trade there. Everyone is entitled to his or her beliefs. I will be damned if I will let an owner's religious or political beliefs determine where I shop.

I will push back hard at the tactics employed by these Nazis trying to quell any dissent from their views. They would like nothing better than to shut me up.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#6667 Jul 30, 2012
NBrandyWine wrote:
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? Please explain, I must confess I know nothing about this "law"
\

Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies[1][2]) is an observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] that has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."[2][3] In other words, Godwin observed that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably makes a comparison to Hitler and the Nazis.

Godwin's law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread Reductio ad Hitlerum form.[4] The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses, irrespective of whether it's appropriate or not. Precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.[5]

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#6668 Jul 30, 2012
veryvermilion wrote:
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There is no such thing as gay pedophilia...
"Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men2 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.
To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-male molestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't implicitly convey unwarranted assumptions about the perpetrator's sexual orientation.
The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes." http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/fa...
Furthermore... "According to Dr. Fred Berlin, a Johns Hopkins University professor who founded the National Institute for the Study, Prevention and Treatment of Sexual Trauma in Baltimore, Md., pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation marked by persistent, sometimes exclusive, attraction to prepubescent children."
So pedophilia is an orientation in itself--it's different from being gay or straight.
Go here and read this for yourself, instead of making up shit that you know NOTHING about.
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And please explain just exactly what you mean by "Gays deny children to get married". How does a gay person deny a child? What the hell does that even mean?
-You can post politically correct BS all you want. People who care about children are not putting up that idiocy any longer. If you prefer sex with the same sex, whether young or old, you are gay.

-You know exactly what I mean about denying children. It hellishly means that gays demand kids not be included as a reason for marriage because they they cannot procreate children.

I notice you had no answer for the identity with pedophilic tactics. Kind of embarrassing isn't it?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#6669 Jul 30, 2012
veryvermilion wrote:
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You ask, "why is it wrong for you to warn people that they are going down a dead end road that leads to Hell?"
Because you were commanded by Christ to not do so. It's pretty simple isn't it? Do not judge.
Do you honestly believe that you have the ability to do God's work for Him? He is the judge--not you. It isn't your job--it's not within your capabilities to judge others.
So back off!
Christ commanded people not to warn others about hell?

Really.

She wasn't judging, she was discerning. That is wisdom.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#6670 Jul 30, 2012
veryvermilion wrote:
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Goodwin's Law is an internet joke.
And since the Nazis specifically killed gays because Hitler believed gays would undermine his perfect society, it is a relevant comparison.
No, it's not.

The only gay murder that I can think of is Mathew Sheppard. Ends up it was his gay lover who killed him. Is that the Nazi you mean?

Since: Jun 12

Woodruff, SC

#6671 Jul 30, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Christ commanded people not to warn others about hell?
Really.
She wasn't judging, she was discerning. That is wisdom.
Thank you, I've been trying to get them to understand me.

He just stated pedophilia is an orientation. Correct? Then how can you say it's any different from homosexuality? It's an orientation too, right? No, it's also a choice.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#6672 Jul 30, 2012
NBrandyWine wrote:
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Thank you, I've been trying to get them to understand me.
He just stated pedophilia is an orientation. Correct? Then how can you say it's any different from homosexuality? It's an orientation too, right? No, it's also a choice.
Most believe that a part of pedophilia is stunted sexual maturity. A inability to engage adult to adult. The disagreement is when that immaturity is focused on the same sex. By calling pedophilia a 'orientation', they try to take the focus off gender and limit it to age.

I think there are many reasons for homosexuality. I focus more on how we respond to sexual brokenness, something I think we all have to deal with.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#6673 Jul 30, 2012
NBrandyWine wrote:
Prove to me Hell doesn't exist. There is plenty of evidence for God. I replied to you mistakenly, should have been a reply to very vermilion.
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You claim Hell exists, the burden of proof is on you.

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