Gay Marriage Debate - Dayton, OH
Do you support gay marriage?
#529 Jun 18, 2012
You claim to know God.
You know nothing.
God does not make junk. I am not so egotistical as to think that I KNOW THE WORD OF GOD. Shame on all of you. "Judge not lest ye be judged." You make all of these claims as to the finite points of something that is incomprehensible to our minds. Yes we have the son of God, Jesus Christ, but you are not him and most are far from it. I pray for all of you that are hateful gays, straights, and anywhere In between. God did not create hate. He created love in the commonalities of brotherhood/sisterhood. Cleaving brother from brother is the using the devils tongue to rip the ink directly from the Bible you so worship. I am not here to judge either point, but merely state the insanity of your posts. The more you swear at your computer screen at me, the less you are holy.
"Glory to God in the highest, gloria, gloria, and PEACE TO HIS PEOPLE ON EARTH"
You cry sin at your perception of sodomy, but fail to realize any sex other than that which is necessary of procreation is sodomy. Hands, mouth... I will not go further lest I become more vulgar.
Maybe you're right anti-marriage equality folk, but if you're wrong, then you have destroyed the nature of God, which is to LOVE, and be receiving of that love. In hates true nature lies rage. In rage, men die and become inhumane.
Shame on all of you.
Do not hate religion either. To claim non-existence of God, is to imply that life, liberty, and love are meaningless. This renders both arguments useless. God has taken too many good people long before we think they should be gone. Lets not soil their names by driving an issue of love turned to hate between us. Do not unite good with bad. This world is not perfect, and neither are we. Those who hate others are worse then those who choose to love everyone.
#530 Jun 18, 2012
Shame on you for judging us...buzz off, Mike.
#532 Jul 9, 2012
Because the Constitution guarantees it.
#533 Jul 9, 2012
That last remark you responded to was probably from the resident village idiot named Harvey Daye Jr.
The real Thales bids you adieu.
PS: Forever applies to past and present and future.
#534 Jul 9, 2012
Gurantees what, equality?
The 14 amendment applies only to the BoR, which does not cover marriages or contracts.
So, you are wrong.
Stop your disease spreading sodomy and your hedonism worshipping abortions. Stop your insane Diversity tyranny as well.
You will not get a license from the people to practise your foul arts without consequences.
#535 Jul 9, 2012
By the way, what exactly is gay pride?
What exactly is it you are proud of doing?
#536 Nov 29, 2012
Have you noticed how mass media pundits spin the identity of homosexual child molesters as merely the actions of generic pedophiles, never identifying the attacks as homosexual in particular?
For example, take the chickenhawk homosexual molestor Jerry Sandusky. Never once was it revealed by mass media pundits that all of Jerry's victims were boys or that Jerry is a bi-sexual queer.
The most obvious mass media deception is the male catholic priest molestation of boys. Once again, mass media never mention the priestly attacks were practically all man-boy homosexual attacks. Instead the queer gatekeepers in mass media blame religion as the culprit, not queers in robes of authority.
Mass media queers spin the news to give gullible people the mistaken impression that queers are only pervy around adults.
Corey Feldman revealed not too long ago the rampant infestation of child molestors in Hollywood. Of course, Hollywood is infested with male homosexuals, so it doesn't take a wild imagination to believe that all of the attacks Corey witnessed were homosexual man-boy molestation.
When an adult lesbian attacks a young girl, queers in media spin the news again as just another case of normal dating gone wrong...
#537 Nov 29, 2012
May have been Harvey, the idiot; hard to tell the difference.
In other words, you lose!
Winning, Winning, Won!
#538 Nov 30, 2012
Here again are the only mentions of religion in the US constitution:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
According to you, a fundamentalist fruitcake influenced those two negative references to religion in the law of the land.
I don't believe you are right, Le Meathead.
Dance with me in the triumph of truth, mon Le Meathead ami.
#539 Nov 30, 2012
Not throwing in the towel yet, Thales?
Did you know there is a difference between religion and God?
I am aware the founders did not want a specific religion for this country. That is why they inserted into the Constitution those two negative references to religion. However, they did want the influence of our Judeao/Christian philosophy in the law of the land (and you now know where our law of the land came from, don't you?)
BTW, you left out the mention of "Lord" in Article VII. It's at the bottom at the date and signature line and it is a very positive reference. The founders signed their good names alongside it.
#540 Nov 30, 2012
The law of the land was authored by Deist, who were influenced by the European Enlightenment, as I've always asserted. I've always asserted this fact, but you are too dense to comprehend this fact.
The mention of the "lord" you've quoted is completely out of context. The proper context is in reference to a conventional date:
"Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven"
Using a conventional dating method is not an endorsement of religion or a god, although with your wild imagination I can see how you might imagine it to be so.
As usual, you shoot blanks again.
The really stupid part of your fundamentalist religion is the judaism part.
Judaism is not a religion; it is a group survival strategy; it has always been a group survival strategy from the beginning.
As evidence of this fact, judaism explicity accepts atheists and agnostics as legitimate jewish people.
That's right bubble-brain; your religion is based on the oldest jewish group survival strategy, yahweh spirtualism. The modern group survival strategy of judaism is Diversity, a victim cult.
#541 Nov 30, 2012
1. The Constitution was authored by many men..most were of a religious faith. Many were even MINISTERS! Does that shock you? Nah, you'll just say they were devil worshippers and that will make it true. Of the group, Jefferson was agnostic. So, you lose that one.
2. The fact that "Lord" is written implies to most people with some common sense realize the authors recognized a higher being. Otherwise, "Lord" would have been left out. Why would the founders bring that particular signature tradition here to this country if they did not want it? Every word, every letter was carefully scrutinized by the writers of the Constitution. You lose that one, too.
Let's see, that's STRIKE THREE! You're out again, Thales and here's another beat down for you.
As far as who the Jews accept, that is on them, not people of the Christian faith. If the Jewish religion is the Jews survival strategy maybe those 14 million, less than 1% of the world's population, should reconsider their strategy.
Just a little friendly reminder.
Repeating the same lie over and over, doesn't make it true. Our progressive friends try that technique all the time, too. Nice try, though.
#542 Nov 30, 2012
Forgot to add:
Your turn, loser.
#543 Dec 1, 2012
Gay Marraige will be legal in all States and some are already,,,yes Gay is Legal
#544 Dec 1, 2012
How about pedophiles?
Don't they deserve some "rights", too?
#545 Dec 1, 2012
"1. The Constitution was authored by many men..most were of a religious faith. Many were even MINISTERS! Does that shock you? Nah, you'll just say they were devil worshippers and that will make it true. Of the group, Jefferson was agnostic. So, you lose that one."
A) So Jefferson, the one who wrote or had a major hand in writing the constitution was agnostic... yet it is a "christian" based document
B) IF the founding fathers wanted their holy book to be law of land they would have done it. Instead of giving freedom of religion, they would have put the Christian religion as official religion. After all to do other wise would be to go againsnt the very book you say they supported
"2. The fact that "Lord" is written implies to most people with some common sense realize the authors recognized a higher being. Otherwise, "Lord" would have been left out. "
Umm because it was the 1700's and that was "proper english language" at the time. " Our dating system is an historical artifact of Western culture, and has no legal significance or implications for the meaning of the Constitution or the First Amendment. The American Colonies were established by Europeans; we naturally inherited the European practice of dating years from the birth of Christ. Nothing follows from this except the trivial observation that, in establishing our independence, we decided not to completely overthrow our cultural heritage." http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/arg10c.htm
There is nothing in the constitution that in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, makes us a theologically based country.
#546 Dec 1, 2012
1. The Constitution is a document based on man's individual rights given to us from our Creator (God, to most). Please go back to the beginning of this thread because I am not going to go over it again. Getting that hardhead Thales to understand was difficult enough. There were 59 delegates helped frame the Constitution. Jefferson was only one of many.
2. Christianity is not a religion, moron.
3. Thank you for supporting my view on why the word "Lord" was used with the signatures. If there was one thing the founders wanted to include in this new country, it was the Bible. However, the founders did not want a specific national religion. They felt Americans should have the freedom to worship any religion of their chosing, or not to worship any religion.
#547 Dec 1, 2012
"1. The Constitution is a document based on man's individual rights given to us from our Creator (God, to most). Please go back to the beginning of this thread because I am not going to go over it again. Getting that hardhead Thales to understand was difficult enough. There were 59 delegates helped frame the Constitution. Jefferson was only one of many."
Just because SOME people may say the rights were given to us by a diety... does not in ANY way shape or form make us a theocracy or mean that we have to go by what ONE groups interpretation of that particular religions holy book means. It does not matter IF all 59 delegates were high ranking members in their church. They did not put Christianity as the national religion. They went to GREAT lengths to make sure that religion and law did not mix.
"2. Christianity is not a religion, moron."
Definition of CHRISTIANITY
: the religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies
You were saying moron.....
"3. Thank you for supporting my view on why the word "Lord" was used with the signatures. If there was one thing the founders wanted to include in this new country, it was the Bible. However, the founders did not want a specific national religion. They felt Americans should have the freedom to worship any religion of their chosing, or not to worship any religion."
You really didnt bother reading what I posted. Not surprising as it proved your theory wrong... again.
The term In the year of our lord... had NOTHING to do with religion. It was simply a commonly used colloquialism used in formal documents of that period to refer to the year. Had nothing to do with any form of religion. Sort of like saying Sincerely yours.... Doesnt mean you were sincere at all... just a commonly use colloquialism used in modern times in ending formal letters.
#548 Dec 1, 2012
You don't understand the difference between a Deist and a bible fundamentalist because you are a scatterbrain.
I won't go through the process of educating you because you are dumb, and I won't wrestle with a pig.
The orthodox jewish are basically ancestor worshippers, where yahweh is the collective spirit of all dead hebrews. You worship yahweh too mostly because you are dumb. Reformed jewish are non-believers in yahweh, as they don't believe in a spirit world. All jewish believe in Diversity, a modern survival strategy which is a political victim cult.
There you have it Meathead, the truth.
Dance with me meathead, and set yourself free.
#549 Dec 1, 2012
First,any time anyone resorts to name calling, put downs or anything of the like shows his insecurity in his argument and his immature nature.
Now that being said... what does jewish, diest what ever have to do with anything?.....
Your point was basically since the constitution was written by and voted on by men of religios faith, most the Christian form, they must have intended us to follow the Bible in our laws. I have shown this to be incorrect in many ways. Your argument has been blown out of the water by both me and others. We were not then, are not now and good lord willing never will be a theocracy. So what you perceive your holy book to say does not matter.
Now that being said. Tell me what the states interest is in allowing two citizens to enter into a legally binding contract, one which allows for various government granted benifits both monetary and legal, while denying two other citizens from entering into the same.
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