Gay Marriage Debate - Clarkston, WA

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A.J.

Jersey City, NJ

#1 Jan 17, 2012
Gay people have rights too!
Stacy

Yakima, WA

#2 Mar 15, 2012
I think if a couple want unite as one in marriage let them. It doesn't matter what their preference is. Remember happiness is the goal. If they are not physical harming anyone, let them be.

Since: Sep 12

Clarkston, Wa.

#3 Nov 8, 2012
So then we should make the Chaplen's and clergy perform said weddings by the way what does the bible say that marriage? Just a hint not man and man or women to women. So if they want to be with each other great but let's not call it marriage, find a better term man thanx blessings
2all

Lewiston, ID

#4 Nov 13, 2012
It is just wrong morally and principlly
2all

Lewiston, ID

#5 Nov 13, 2012
[QUOTE who="A.J."]Gay people have rights too![/QUOTE]we still don't have to redefine marriage they can change the name like union of those people
2all

Lewiston, ID

#6 Nov 13, 2012
No one on this forum ever this town stinks
Alone1

Lewiston, ID

#7 Nov 16, 2012
2all wrote:
No one on this forum ever this town stinks
It is this community that makes everything wrong.....People are people....If you dont support same sex marriage then marry someone who is the opposite sex(not to be confused with gender)I am a heterosexual transgender woman(I was born male but identify as female)....By heterosexual I mean I prefer Men........So is that same sex?....No....I am a woman that likes men....but was born with the wrong assigned gender.....I may want a husband some day.....Am I supposed to just hide in the shadows?
2all

Lewiston, ID

#8 Nov 17, 2012
Alone1 wrote:
<quoted text>It is this community that makes everything wrong.....People are people....If you dont support same sex marriage then marry someone who is the opposite sex(not to be confused with gender)I am a heterosexual transgender woman(I was born male but identify as female)....By heterosexual I mean I prefer Men........So is that same sex?....No....I am a woman that likes men....but was born with the wrong assigned gender.....I may want a husband some day.....Am I supposed to just hide in the shadows?
that is not heterosexual that would still be same sex cuz you are a man not a women dude wrong plumbing, who said any thing about hiding in shadows? What I did say was that why do they have to call it marriage cuz that is and all ways will be man and women. Have a nice day
Alone1

Lewiston, ID

#9 Nov 17, 2012
Obviously the general public is misinformed.It is not ones Genitals that make up ones Gender.Gender is a Social determination not one of Sexual preference.It is a chromosomal imbalance that is given to someone at birth.....It is a birth defect,No one would EVER choose to be this way.....Many fight thier dysphoria entire lifetimes.If I liked Women as a transgendered woman that would be same sex also.You also have a nice day
come on now

Bolingbrook, IL

#10 Nov 17, 2012
Alone1 wrote:
Obviously the general public is misinformed.It is not ones Genitals that make up ones Gender.Gender is a Social determination not one of Sexual preference.It is a chromosomal imbalance that is given to someone at birth.....It is a birth defect,No one would EVER choose to be this way.....Many fight thier dysphoria entire lifetimes.If I liked Women as a transgendered woman that would be same sex also.You also have a nice day
A) chromosomal imbalance... got anything to back that up?...
B) calling a homosexual a victim of a birth defect is like saying someone with red hair has a birth defect. There is NO defect. It is what they are ... period.
Alone1

Lewiston, ID

#12 Nov 19, 2012
I did not say anything about referring to homosexuality as a birth defect.Just that Gender expression is a social conundrum....not a choice.
Alone1

Lewiston, ID

#13 Nov 19, 2012
As far as backing up any claim, you are more than welcome to Wiki Transgender......Also if I were to Marry a woman after my sex change operation then you are saying that is perfectly acceptable by all Laws of Governance,and is in no way same sex marriage?
2all

Lewiston, ID

#14 Nov 19, 2012
Alone1 wrote:
As far as backing up any claim, you are more than welcome to Wiki Transgender......Also if I were to Marry a woman after my sex change operation then you are saying that is perfectly acceptable by all Laws of Governance,and is in no way same sex marriage?
well then fella maybe you should then be what you were born as and not what you lust after cuz us men do not have to have an operation to be who we are so stop lusting but then it maybe to late like I said sorry fella
2all

Lewiston, ID

#17 Nov 21, 2012
What happen to everyone? Why is transgender, gay , lesbians try to redefine marriage? Could they not come up with a different name for what they wanted? So now we have to teach our children that same sex marriage is " normal " , sorry not buying it cuz the bible doesn't teach that. You always have a choice ether right,or wrong,good,or bad,yes,or no. Lets just make the pastors marry them even though the bible that they teach and believe in clearly teaches against same sex marriage. Way to go America
come on now

Bolingbrook, IL

#19 Nov 24, 2012
2all wrote:
What happen to everyone? Why is transgender, gay , lesbians try to redefine marriage? Could they not come up with a different name for what they wanted? So now we have to teach our children that same sex marriage is " normal " , sorry not buying it cuz the bible doesn't teach that. You always have a choice ether right,or wrong,good,or bad,yes,or no. Lets just make the pastors marry them even though the bible that they teach and believe in clearly teaches against same sex marriage. Way to go America
"Why is transgender, gay , lesbians try to redefine marriage? Could they not come up with a different name for what they wanted?"

They are not trying to "redefine" anything... Legally speaking marriage is a binding contract between to consenting adults allowing for many government sanctioned benefits both monetary and legal. No redefinition here...just want equal rights.

"So now we have to teach our children that same sex marriage is " normal " '
You can teach your children what ever narrow minded views you want... however it gives you no right to deny the homosexual of their rights.

"You always have a choice ether right,or wrong,good,or bad,yes,or no"

I am assuming you are back handidly saying being homosexual is a choice... Then I ask you when did you choose to be hetero?....

"o. Lets just make the pastors marry them even though the bible that they teach and believe in clearly teaches against same sex marriage."

Total straw man argument. When (not if but when) ssm becomes law of the land, churches will not be forced to do the ceremonies against their will. Little thing called the constitution would forbid this.
2all

Lewiston, ID

#20 Nov 24, 2012
come on now wrote:
<quoted text>
"Why is transgender, gay , lesbians try to redefine marriage? Could they not come up with a different name for what they wanted?"
They are not trying to "redefine" anything... Legally speaking marriage is a binding contract between to consenting adults allowing for many government sanctioned benefits both monetary and legal. No redefinition here...just want equal rights.
"So now we have to teach our children that same sex marriage is " normal " '
You can teach your children what ever narrow minded views you want... however it gives you no right to deny the homosexual of their rights.
"You always have a choice ether right,or wrong,good,or bad,yes,or no"
I am assuming you are back handidly saying being homosexual is a choice... Then I ask you when did you choose to be hetero?....
"o. Lets just make the pastors marry them even though the bible that they teach and believe in clearly teaches against same sex marriage."
Total straw man argument. When (not if but when) ssm becomes law of the land, churches will not be forced to do the ceremonies against their will. Little thing called the constitution would forbid this.
so if it was called a civil union then the would not have the same equality as a married couple, give me a brake that is crap they just want to take a way what God said is good. Yes homosexual is a choice you have the choice to act on your feelings so if they want to do whatever they do but when they think that if same sex marriage is the same wrong they could have called it civil union and they may have gotten a better response from the people sorry but I choose God not man and his ignorance
come on now

Bolingbrook, IL

#21 Nov 24, 2012
2all wrote:
<quoted text>so if it was called a civil union then the would not have the same equality as a married couple, give me a brake that is crap they just want to take a way what God said is good. Yes homosexual is a choice you have the choice to act on your feelings so if they want to do whatever they do but when they think that if same sex marriage is the same wrong they could have called it civil union and they may have gotten a better response from the people sorry but I choose God not man and his ignorance
"so if it was called a civil union then the would not have the same equality as a married couple, give me a brake that is crap"

Finally you got something right. A c.u. is not the same as marriage. Marriage is recognized state to state. C.U. is not. If you got a c.u. in Illinois and got transferred to Texas, then you c.u. would mean squat. If you got transffered to a state that has C.U. it would be under their laws of c.u. If you are married marraige us universally recognized.

Also look at legal stand point. The federal government does not recogonize c.u.'s. They do marriage.

"they just want to take a way what God said is good. "
Since we are not a theocracy, what you believe YOUR God said was good or not is irrelevant. We are talking about laws and rights of U.S. Citizens.

"Yes homosexual is a choice you have the choice to act on your feelings so if they want to do whatever they do but when they think that if same sex marriage is the same"

Once again someone falls into the idiotic stance of homosexuality is about sex. EVERYONE hetero and hom o has a choice of acting upon feelings. Doesnt make EITHER a choice. Unless of course you are going to say you were not hetero till you dipped your wick.

" but when they think that if same sex marriage is the same wrong they could have called it civil union and they may have gotten a better response from the people sorry but I choose God not man and his ignorance "

Leaving the God card out of this, since we are not a theocracy and all, how is a ssc diferent from an osc... Please dont put sex at the top of your list as both have it. There is no difference at all. Yes one is m/f the othere mm or ff... so what. Both sets care for each other. Both sets love each other. Both sets want to be with each other for eternity..... no difference what so ever.

I have shown just one of MANY reasons why a C.U. is different and not equal to a Marriage license. You can "choose God" all you want. Just do not make your "choice" infringe on the rights of your fellow citizens
2all

Lewiston, ID

#22 Nov 24, 2012
come on now wrote:
<quoted text>
"so if it was called a civil union then the would not have the same equality as a married couple, give me a brake that is crap"
Finally you got something right. A c.u. is not the same as marriage. Marriage is recognized state to state. C.U. is not. If you got a c.u. in Illinois and got transferred to Texas, then you c.u. would mean squat. If you got transffered to a state that has C.U. it would be under their laws of c.u. If you are married marraige us universally recognized.
Also look at legal stand point. The federal government does not recogonize c.u.'s. They do marriage.
"they just want to take a way what God said is good. "
Since we are not a theocracy, what you believe YOUR God said was good or not is irrelevant. We are talking about laws and rights of U.S. Citizens.
"Yes homosexual is a choice you have the choice to act on your feelings so if they want to do whatever they do but when they think that if same sex marriage is the same"
Once again someone falls into the idiotic stance of homosexuality is about sex. EVERYONE hetero and hom o has a choice of acting upon feelings. Doesnt make EITHER a choice. Unless of course you are going to say you were not hetero till you dipped your wick.
" but when they think that if same sex marriage is the same wrong they could have called it civil union and they may have gotten a better response from the people sorry but I choose God not man and his ignorance "
Leaving the God card out of this, since we are not a theocracy and all, how is a ssc diferent from an osc... Please dont put sex at the top of your list as both have it. There is no difference at all. Yes one is m/f the othere mm or ff... so what. Both sets care for each other. Both sets love each other. Both sets want to be with each other for eternity..... no difference what so ever.
I have shown just one of MANY reasons why a C.U. is different and not equal to a Marriage license. You can "choose God" all you want. Just do not make your "choice" infringe on the rights of your fellow citizens
just going on a whim but do you think that they or the Feds or the states could have maybe said " if you are asking for equal rights as a marriage then all you gays can have that as a civil union or something come on. Cuz that would have been the thing to do instead of changing what is already good and trying to dumb it down for the gays so they can smash marriage. Great the family unite is no longer a good thing in same sex marriage states cool way to go America that is how you do wrong lets just keep it up whoohoo
come on now

Bolingbrook, IL

#23 Nov 25, 2012
2all wrote:
<quoted text>just going on a whim but do you think that they or the Feds or the states could have maybe said " if you are asking for equal rights as a marriage then all you gays can have that as a civil union or something come on. Cuz that would have been the thing to do instead of changing what is already good and trying to dumb it down for the gays so they can smash marriage. Great the family unite is no longer a good thing in same sex marriage states cool way to go America that is how you do wrong lets just keep it up whoohoo
So you want to get all 50 states together, plus the federal government get them to come to a concensus to allow c.u. to fall under the full faith and credit section of the constitution, when we could just use the term marriage as it was legally intended. A civil binding contract between two consenting of age adults. Why reinvent the wheel?... so you can feel superior?... We have a marriage.. you guys just have a civil union....
''Great the family unite is no longer a good thing in same sex marriage states cool way to go America that is how you do wrong lets just keep it up "
What do you mean here?... That by allowing for ssm you will weaken the family unit?... if so... how?....How exactly will allowing two people of the same sex to be legally married harm in any way the family unit?...
2all

Lewiston, ID

#24 Nov 25, 2012
come on now wrote:
<quoted text>
So you want to get all 50 states together, plus the federal government get them to come to a concensus to allow c.u. to fall under the full faith and credit section of the constitution, when we could just use the term marriage as it was legally intended. A civil binding contract between two consenting of age adults. Why reinvent the wheel?... so you can feel superior?... We have a marriage.. you guys just have a civil union....
''Great the family unite is no longer a good thing in same sex marriage states cool way to go America that is how you do wrong lets just keep it up "
What do you mean here?... That by allowing for ssm you will weaken the family unit?... if so... how?....How exactly will allowing two people of the same sex to be legally married harm in any way the family unit?...
what is the family unite?

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