Gay Marriage Debate - Chicago, IL

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Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#1957 Mar 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
The ERA failed in the '60s and '70s, the states rejected that constitutional amendment because it would permit same sex marriage.
Stop the courts from imposing new marriage laws they can't win at the voting booth. Impeach activist judges and appoint only judges who use law instead of emotion.
All "arguments" against gay marriage are based on emotion.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#1958 Mar 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
Clearly you can't produce even one quote from Goldwater to support your 'marriage equality' fantasy. Same sex marriage hasn't existed for decades, they support redefining marriage because they don't know history.
Appealing to tradition. A logical fallacy.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#1959 Mar 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
Barry Goldwater campaigned against the Equal Rights Amendment, that would have made a same sex marriage a Constitutional right. He never supported same sex marriage.
I support gay rights,
And I'm Brad Pitt.
Look, ahole, grow a fkn pair already and admit you are a fundie homophobe.
Brian_G wrote:
there is nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality. The most important gay right is life, same sex marriage might put gays in jeopardy. Same sex marriage is bad for homosexuals, families, singles and children.
Rose's Law:
Morons with no real argument scream, "But what about the children!?"
Tell us, how is gay marriage bad for children?
Brian_G wrote:
B
Acknowledging gays should be entitled to freedom of association isn't the same thing as a right to redefine marriage for everyone.
WTF?

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#1960 Mar 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
My arguments rely on conservatism, keep the definition of marriage as is, between husband and wife.
Your ex-wife didn't! LOL. That's gotta hurt!

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#1961 Mar 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
If you think forcing Catholic Charities out of the adoption service provider business in Massachusetts is a good thing, support same sex marriage.
If you believe in religious freedom, keep marriage between husband and wife.
They chose to leave. That's freedom.
Your ex-wife didn't keep marriage between husband and wife! LOL!

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#1962 Mar 15, 2012
Hey Brian, maybe your balls will drop, and you answer this:
Should we have fought for civil rights during the 60's? Yes or no?
Taylor

Lake In The Hills, IL

#1963 Mar 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
If you believe in religious freedom, keep marriage between husband and wife.
How is that even remotely defining "religious freedom" to you? How screwed up is your mind??

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#1964 Mar 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
Clearly you can't produce even one quote from Goldwater to support your 'marriage equality' fantasy. Same sex marriage hasn't existed for decades, they support redefining marriage because they don't know history.
These quotes among others demonstrate Goldwater supported equal treatment under the law for gay people. The second is from '93. Remember Baker was about gay people getting married before '72. Gay people have been getting married privately if not always publicly and legally, for over 4,000 years.

“There has always been homosexuality, ever since man and woman were invented. I guess there were gay apes. So that's not an issue. The Republican Party should stand for freedom and only freedom. Don't raise hell about the gays, the Blacks and the Mexicans. Free people have a right to do as they damn well please."

"The conservative movement, to which I subscribe, has as one of its basic tenets the belief that government should stay out of people’s private lives. Government governs best when it governs least - and stays out of the impossible task of legislating morality. But legislating someone’s version of morality is exactly what we do by perpetuating discrimination against gays."

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Since: Dec 08

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#1965 Mar 15, 2012
Do you have a citation for the Goldwater's entire statement, so we can see the context of your quotes?

Don't fall for misquotes, find the original material or don't buy the BS.
Lily

Chicago, IL

#1966 Apr 26, 2012
Diamond wrote:
Marriage is a holy matrimony between man & woman... GOD made Adam & Eve to marry & have offsprings... Not Adam & Steve...
Last time I checked we didn't even have proof that god existed so maybe we should believe in something we can actually prove and see, which is that love between a man and a woman can exist and should be recognized.

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Since: Dec 08

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#1967 Apr 27, 2012
Six weeks without a citation; maybe the quote is bogus.

Since: May 12

AOL

#1968 May 28, 2012
i just dont agree

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Since: Dec 08

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#1969 May 29, 2012
The quote is either real or not. I claim, if you can't provide a citation 11 weeks, the quote is fake.

Don't blame the people who want to keep marriage as is, for the bad scholarship of those wanting to change the definition of marriage.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#1970 Jun 17, 2012
Read his books. Many of the things he wrote in articles have been recorded there as well. His support for equal rights for gay people is well documented in many places.
Steve

Chicago, IL

#1971 Jul 7, 2012
I'm gay. Of course I do.`

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Since: Dec 08

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#1972 Jul 7, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
Read his books. Many of the things he wrote in articles have been recorded there as well. His support for equal rights for gay people is well documented in many places.
So, there is no citation, the quote was made up. There is no pre21st Century argument for same sex marriage.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#1973 Jul 8, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>So, there is no citation, the quote was made up. There is no pre21st Century argument for same sex marriage.
Again, the Goldwater quote can be found by anyone who wants to look. Goldwater was clear in his support of equal rights for gay people.

Your prejudice is unsupportable, and so firmly ingrained as well as blatantly irrational, I have given up trying to reason with you, or do your research for you.

There is no scientifically supportable justification nor any legitimate governmental interest sufficient for harming gay people through denial of equal protections of the law as required by the constitution.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#1974 Jul 8, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>So, there is no citation, the quote was made up. There is no pre21st Century argument for same sex marriage.
Even if true, so what? Stupid, appealing to tradition is a logical fallacy.
The reality is there just isn't a good argument against gay marriage.

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Since: Dec 08

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#1975 Jul 8, 2012
I'm not appealing to tradition, I'm saying there is no citation for the quote. I'm claiming, Goldwater never supported same sex marriage.

This isn't prejudice, this is fact. You don't have to do your research for me, you have to provide a citation if you expect anyone to believe what you post.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#1976 Jul 8, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
I'm not appealing to tradition, I'm saying there is no citation for the quote. I'm claiming, Goldwater never supported same sex marriage.
Yes you are, you stupid b!txh, look up the term!

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