Gay Marriage Debate - Atlanta, GA

Discuss the national Gay Marriage debate in Atlanta, GA.

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jerry

Tampa, FL

#459 Feb 4, 2014
I agree with it me an my partner wants to marry
jerry

Tampa, FL

#460 Feb 4, 2014
I agree cause me an my partner wants to marry
Hey lighturdnuts

Whittier, CA

#461 Feb 4, 2014
jerry wrote:
I agree cause me an my partner wants to marry
So, Jethro, what's yer goats name?

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Since: Dec 08

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#462 Feb 5, 2014
Jerry, what's stopping you? It's perfectly legal to have a same sex wedding ceremony, travel to a jurisdiction that licenses same sex marriage or simply ask acquaintances to treat you and your partner as if married. There's no gay marriage ban like the bans on adult brother/sister marriage and bigamy. You can't be prosecuted for marrying a consenting adult of the same sex in any state, you have that right in Florida and we have it in Georgia too.

Same sex marriage isn't about freedom, the issue is changing society to redefine the fundamental institution of marriage. Same sex marriage is about segregating marriage by gender where previously it has been gender integrated, diverse and beneficial to society. Segregation, prejudice and disunity will never supercede the perfect affirmative action of one man and one woman marriage.
jerry

Tampa, FL

#463 Mar 30, 2014
Im gay an i should be happy to

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#464 Mar 30, 2014
I wish you every happiness but that doesn't mean rewriting marriage laws for everyone.
2 Bad 4 U

United States

#465 Mar 30, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
Jerry, what's stopping you? It's perfectly legal to have a same sex wedding ceremony, travel to a jurisdiction that licenses same sex marriage or simply ask acquaintances to treat you and your partner as if married. There's no gay marriage ban like the bans on adult brother/sister marriage and bigamy. You can't be prosecuted for marrying a consenting adult of the same sex in any state, you have that right in Florida and we have it in Georgia too.
Same sex marriage isn't about freedom, the issue is changing society to redefine the fundamental institution of marriage. Same sex marriage is about segregating marriage by gender where previously it has been gender integrated, diverse and beneficial to society. Segregation, prejudice and disunity will never supercede the perfect affirmative action of one man and one woman marriage.
Are you really this stupid? Or are you deliberately being obstinate?

The issue is LEGAL RIGHTS. Nothing more nothing less. The LEGAL RIGHTS of a same-sex couple. The ones that opposite-sex couples have. The same exact. That is what the issue is.

Nobody cares less about acceptance from people like you. You don't have to like us. But you do have to respect us. That is the law. A law which is now being enforced in over half the states. And Georgia is next.

SSM is about to be legalized nationwide. If you haters have a problem with it, you can go suck on a stick! It is happening whether you approve or not. Get used to it.

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Since: Dec 08

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#466 Mar 30, 2014
2 Bad 4 U wrote:
Are you really this stupid? Or are you deliberately being obstinate?... If you haters have a problem with it, you can go suck on a stick! It is happening whether you approve or not. Get used to it.
^^^We're used to their cyberbullying, insults and abuse but we don't have to like it. Just read the quote above to learn about the people you are giving license to redefine family and marriage.

The issue is the government benefits and being able to force your employer to treat your same sex partner as if you were family. It's all about the money. Sex segregated marriage means more wasteful government spending on a new class of same sex dependent beneficiaries.
Grubs daughter

Whittier, CA

#467 Mar 30, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>^^^We're used to their cyberbullying, insults and abuse but we don't have to like it. Just read the quote above to learn about the people you are giving license to redefine family and marriage.
The issue is the government benefits and being able to force your employer to treat your same sex partner as if you were family. It's all about the money. Sex segregated marriage means more wasteful government spending on a new class of same sex dependent beneficiaries.
How do you feel about "same family" marriage?

Like when uncledad marries yer sister.

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#468 Apr 2, 2014
Those incest marriages are banned, they are felonies. No state bans same sex couples from living as if married; the issue isn't freedom. The issue is rewriting marriage law for everyone without the consent of the governed.
2 Bad 4 U

United States

#469 Apr 2, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>^^^We're used to their cyberbullying, insults and abuse but we don't have to like it. Just read the quote above to learn about the people you are giving license to redefine family and marriage.
Okay, maybe I was a little harsh. Sorry. And no you don't have to like it. Nobody said you did. You don't have to like us but you do have to respect us. So says the laws of the United States. Is that better?
Brian_G wrote:
The issue is the government benefits and being able to force your employer to treat your same sex partner as if you were family. It's all about the money. Sex segregated marriage means more wasteful government spending on a new class of same sex dependent beneficiaries.
Yes now we get to what I was talking about. Yes it is about benefits. EQUAL benefits. No more than you. No less than you. Equal.

Yes employers must treat same sex couples as families because they are. Just the same as heterosexual couples are.

You don't have to like us. But you do have to respect us. So says the laws of the United States of America. You can be on the wrong side of history if you want. You have that constitutional right. But your rights end where your skin touches the air.
2 Bad 4 U

United States

#470 Apr 2, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
Those incest marriages are banned, they are felonies. No state bans same sex couples from living as if married; the issue isn't freedom. The issue is rewriting marriage law for everyone without the consent of the governed.
Okay, do you really, really not see the difference between living as married and being married in the eyes of the government? Not the church, not people like you, THE GOVERNMENT.

If a person really does not know the difference between those two things, that person is stupid. I'm sorry if you consider it offensive to say that. You can use euphemisms if you want but a person who does not know that can not be very smart. Can they?

Or is it just a red herring designed to distract people from the topic?

Or what? What is your explanation? Because you keep saying that over and over and it's so wrong on so many levels. I want to hear what you have to say about that.
sophia early

Atlanta, GA

#471 Apr 8, 2014
yes I do
Sherman

Whittier, CA

#472 Apr 8, 2014
Gays can't produce children. Unfortunately southerners can.

Gay marriage is fine.

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Since: Dec 08

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#473 Apr 8, 2014
2 Bad 4 U wrote:
Okay, do you really, really not see the difference between living as married and being married in the eyes of the government? Not the church, not people like you, THE GOVERNMENT. If a person really does not know the difference between those two things, that person is stupid. I'm sorry if you consider it offensive to say that. You can use euphemisms if you want but a person who does not know that can not be very smart. Can they? Or is it just a red herring designed to distract people from the topic? Or what? What is your explanation? Because you keep saying that over and over and it's so wrong on so many levels. I want to hear what you have to say about that.
It makes no difference to love, millions of Americans had common law marriage not licensed by the state. The issue isn't freedom, the point is more wasteful government spending on entitlements for a new class of same sex dependent beneficiaries, then either less of the pie to go around or higher taxes for everyone.

Speaking of the way sex segregationist marriage supporters write, let's discuss Bill Maher's view of the gay mafia that ousted Brendan Eich from his job:

MAHER: What do you think about the Mozilla CEO having to step down over his donation to a pro-Proposition 8 group.

ÖBy the way, I didnít know what Mozilla was. I saw it on my computer, but ó itís Firefox, right? Itís the browser.

So this guy apparently does not want gay people to get married and he had to step down. What do you think of that?

DAVIS: Because he gave $1,000 eight years ago and itís come back to haunt him.

SHEFFIELD: Well, and he gave it when President Obama was still against gay marriage. So, I donít think itís very fair.

MAHER: Good point. Also, I think there is a gay mafia. I think if you cross them, you do get whacked.
2 Bad 4 U

United States

#474 Apr 9, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>It makes no difference to love, millions of Americans had common law marriage not licensed by the state. The issue isn't freedom, the point is more wasteful government spending on entitlements for a new class of same sex dependent beneficiaries, then either less of the pie to go around or higher taxes for everyone.
Okay I finally got you to admit it. Now we're making progress in this discussion.

Let me get this strait. You want to keep all of the rights and privileges ONLY for the people who are like you. The people who have the same beliefs and sexual orientation as you have. While denying the same for persons who are different.

Just like what the Ku Klux Klan did to African Americans in the early twentieth century.

Is that correct? Did I understand you correctly?
Brian_G wrote:
Speaking of the way sex segregationist marriage supporters write, let's discuss Bill Maher's view of the gay mafia that ousted Brendan Eich from his job:
MAHER: What do you think about the Mozilla CEO having to step down over his donation to a pro-Proposition 8 group.
ÖBy the way, I didnít know what Mozilla was. I saw it on my computer, but ó itís Firefox, right? Itís the browser.
So this guy apparently does not want gay people to get married and he had to step down. What do you think of that?
DAVIS: Because he gave $1,000 eight years ago and itís come back to haunt him.
SHEFFIELD: Well, and he gave it when President Obama was still against gay marriage. So, I donít think itís very fair.
MAHER: Good point. Also, I think there is a gay mafia. I think if you cross them, you do get whacked.
The Brendan Eich controversy didn't bother me much because it happened so long ago. But I see why they ousted him. Nobody in this day and age wants homophobes around. Nobody.

And no there is no gay mafia, lol. Just a populace who supports lgbt rights because it is the right thing to do.

And yes Mozilla = Firefox browser

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Since: Dec 08

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#475 Apr 9, 2014
2 Bad 4 U wrote:
Okay I finally got you to admit it. Now we're making progress in this discussion.
^^^But you don't cop to cyberbullying, after calling me a hater because I defend one man and one woman marriage, next you'll justify taking the livelihood of someone who donated money to Proposition 8 back when then Senator Obama ran for President on the platform, "God is in the mix." Don't miss the part where you say I'm like a racist and the KKK:

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2 Bad 4 U wrote:
Let me get this strait. You want to keep all of the rights and privileges ONLY for the people who are like you. The people who have the same beliefs and sexual orientation as you have. While denying the same for persons who are different. Just like what the Ku Klux Klan did to African Americans in the early twentieth century. Is that correct? Did I understand you correctly?
No, I fully support gays marrying; I've often cited the cases of Oscar Wilde and Meredith Baxter. Gays have always been gifted in the arts and the cited cases represent homosexuals who opt to have their children raised by the kid's mother and father. Many homosexuals defend marriage as one man and one woman. There's no problem with lesbians and gays marrying, then swapping. That's legal in every state.

Sex differences are nothing like racial differences. Sex differences are so important they mean the survival of the human race and so great they influence every aspect of culture. Racial differences are neither important or more than skin deep.

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2 Bad 4 U wrote:
The Brendan Eich controversy didn't bother me much because it happened so long ago. But I see why they ousted him. Nobody in this day and age wants homophobes around. Nobody. And no there is no gay mafia, lol. Just a populace who supports lgbt rights because it is the right thing to do. And yes Mozilla = Firefox browser
Brendan Eich was appointed CEO on March 24th, he was ousted on April 3, that's last Thursday. When you're memory's so short, there's no reason to think of taking a man's living just because he donated to the political opposition. There's a strong streak of fascism on the left and this all happened with the tacit consent of the Administration's labor department. Now, we've seen bakers, florists, photographers and CEOs all directly harmed by same sex marriage supporters. You reap what you sew

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Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#476 Apr 9, 2014
No. Do you support my "right" to marry 4 Hooters waitresses? Didn't think so.
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United States

#477 Apr 9, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
But you don't cop to cyberbullying, after calling me a hater because I defend one man and one woman marriage, next you'll justify taking the livelihood of someone who donated money to Proposition 8 back when then Senator Obama ran for President on the platform, "God is in the mix." Don't miss the part where you say I'm like a racist and the KKK:
I have already apologized for my previous comment. I still consider it hatred but we can agree to disagree on that.

I am not an Obama supporter and never have been.

"God" has no place in any secular government such as the United States.

What I said was "Just like what the Ku Klux Klan did to African Americans in the early twentieth century." It's true. They did. They did exactly what you say you would like to continue doing to same-sex couples.

I can cite examples if you want me to. It would be very easy to do.
Brian_G wrote:
No, I fully support gays marrying; I've often cited the cases of Oscar Wilde and Meredith Baxter. Gays have always been gifted in the arts and the cited cases represent homosexuals who opt to have their children raised by the kid's mother and father. Many homosexuals defend marriage as one man and one woman. There's no problem with lesbians and gays marrying, then swapping. That's legal in every state.
We have already established this is about government benefits.

That's the only thing I'm talking about. I can't speak for everybody else but that's all I care about. I don't care who's better at this or that.(those are all stereotypes anyway) GOVERNMENT BENEFITS. Nothing more and nothing less.

Why can't the children be raised by the same-sex couple just the same?

Why would they "marry then swap"? What in this world would that accomplish? Did you really mean to say that?
Brian_G wrote:
Sex differences are nothing like racial differences. Sex differences are so important they mean the survival of the human race and so great they influence every aspect of culture. Racial differences are neither important or more than skin deep.
Marriage has nothing to do with reproduction. This has already been covered over and over and over on this thread. Let's move forward please.

Incidentally, since when do we have a problem with not enough humans?
Brian_G wrote:
Brendan Eich was appointed CEO on March 24th, he was ousted on April 3, that's last Thursday. When you're memory's so short, there's no reason to think of taking a man's living just because he donated to the political opposition. There's a strong streak of fascism on the left and this all happened with the tacit consent of the Administration's labor department. Now, we've seen bakers, florists, photographers and CEOs all directly harmed by same sex marriage supporters. You reap what you sew
Yes I know about the Eich case. I was saying that because the donation itself happened back in 2007 or whenever it was, I really don't give a flip. If it happened recently I would have been rallying along with them.

But at the same time I don't fault them for berating him over it. After all he never retracted his stance on the subject. But I wasn't one of the protestors. Saying I am or was is barking up the wrong tree about that. That's what I was saying.

The other cases you talk about are cases where someone refused to serve someone because they were a same-sex couple. Explain to me how that is not discrimination.
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United States

#478 Apr 9, 2014
Sneaky Pete wrote:
No. Do you support my "right" to marry 4 Hooters waitresses? Didn't think so.
I do. As long as all 4 want to marry you. And all are okay with you marrying the other 3. I say legalize that as well! Polyamory, or multiple-spouse marriages. Damn right I support that!

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