Gay Marriage Debate - Albany, OR

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no big O

Bolingbrook, IL

#21 Aug 1, 2012
happy wrote:
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Maybe you should start following a book of rules. FYI, my parents didn't raise me in church. I found Christ as a result of a loving husband and local community. You cannot be "gay with Christ". You need to read the whole bible and realize that it goes against everything taught from families to laws.
I am not a "cafeteria christian" whatever that means. I do take the whole Bible into consideration, not just the old testimate or new. That's not even close to what I said. I'm thankful God loves you for who you are, because you have at least someone fighting for you. I pray daily for the sinners of the world, myself included. For all sin and die daily. I'm not even close to perfect, but when I do sin, I ask for forgiveness. God loves me and He loves you, too. For that, you should be thankful and realize that you need him in your life.
Without rules, the world will continue to get worse. Without rules, who will know the difference of right and wrong. Where will the line be drawn. Our children will not know manners, not to steal, not to cheat or lie. The world needs rules and it's beyond evident that the world has shamelessly forgotten how to behave. That was sheer ignorance to even say.
"Maybe you should start following a book of rules. FYI, my parents didn't raise me in church. I found Christ as a result of a loving husband and local community. You cannot be "gay with Christ". You need to read the whole bible and realize that it goes against everything taught from families to laws."

Here is the deal.. you can believe in the "rules" set out in your version of your "holy book".. this is all well and fine. However we, the United States of America, are not a theocracy. The civil rights of our citizens are not bound by your holy book. So what you believe it to say, does not matter when it comes to civil rights.

"I am not a "cafeteria christian" whatever that means. I do take the whole Bible into consideration, not just the old testimate or new."

What the term "cafeteria christian" means is those people who claim to follow the Bible, but in reality only follow what they find unobjectionable. Example....
Are you submissive to your husband... in all ways?... Several versus in both old and new testament tells you to be i.e. 1 timothy 2:11-15. Maybe you are, but most women who use the bible against homosexuality, are not, or not to the point the bible says you should be.

Another example... You obviously are against homosexuality based on what the Bible says. If a thread were started on how anyone who is divorced for reasons other than adultery and remarries is guilty of adultery, would you post there in agreement as you had here. Does your church marry all people who are divorced? Do they turn away any who can not prove the divorce was due to adultery? Jesus, while NEVER saying anything about homosexuals, was quite explicit on this matter. Yet most "christians" tend to ignore this or explain it away.

"Without rules, the world will continue to get worse. Without rules, who will know the difference of right and wrong. Where will the line be drawn."

Whose rules... The Bibles?... why that as oppose to the Torah, or the Koran or the (name your holy book here). Since we are not like the Taliban, it does not matter. The rules comes from laws based on our Constitution, not anyones interpretation of their holy book.

Now I will ask you the same question as I have others...
Tell us why two U.S. citizens who have been together for 15 years and happen to be a ssc, should enjoy less legal rights and coverage than a couple married 15 minutes. Are they less U.S. citizens? Are they second class.. because what you believe your book says?

Since: Aug 13

Albany, OR

#22 Aug 7, 2013
bjonihan wrote:
I'm gay with god.

Being Gay and being a Christian, no way. You can't live in sin and be a Christian.

Since: Aug 13

Albany, OR

#23 Aug 7, 2013
Erika wrote:
Love is love.
Yes just like Sin is Sin.

Since: Aug 13

Albany, OR

#24 Aug 7, 2013
Monica wrote:
Love is love, and we don't have the right to tell people what is wrong and that they can't be married to whomever they fall for. If you believe in god and you think they are against god, judging another person when you have no right is just as against god as you say gay marriage is.
Gay marriage is Sin. God says its wrong. Yes we do have the right to call Sin for what it is.

Since: Aug 13

Albany, OR

#25 Aug 7, 2013
Ignorance hater wrote:
You gay haters, oh yeah supposedly not? Gay marriage is the least of this countries worries! The 1% are leading the ignorant by rings in their noses and yokes around their necks! Until the majority is totally impoverished, and rights are minuscule! Leaving us at the mercy of crime! While they watch us from their gated perches traveling the world and enjoying life on our backs! Fighting for the scraps they throw! Something to be gay and happy about! Ignorance marriage is much worse than gay marriage is my
Holy belief!
Your nuts.
rusty30

Eugene, OR

#26 Dec 27, 2013
Being gay is not an option. It is the way
God chose to make you.
how sad

United States

#27 Dec 27, 2013
Its gross for one thing. But it is a perversion, an unnatural act in God's plan for humankind. Its disgusting.....
Losers

Cathlamet, WA

#28 Dec 27, 2013
I find it funny to hear all these "part time" Christians voice their opinion all the while praising their god and doing exactly the opposite of what their teachings say.
Male-Female

Cathlamet, WA

#29 Dec 30, 2013
is the combination I choose to live my life and have children with. I care less if you like someone who looks like you and has the same genitals, thats your life. We get that SO, SHUT THE **** UP AS TO HOW YOU LIKE IT, AND QUIT SHOUTING IT OUT AND PARADING YOUR LIKES IN PUBLIC. KEEP IT IN THE BEDROOM AND GET ON WITH YOUR LIVES. That is mostly why people disagree with your choice, Idiots.
Wrong

Sherwood, OR

#30 Jan 15, 2014
It's one of the more serious sins, God himself says no man layeth with another man and no women shall layeth with another women. It is against gods rules and you will be punished for it. If you're atheist and gay, then there is almost nothing anyone can do for you... It your choice just know that it's against god. As true as it may be that "people have the right to love" well that's not true in this case. And it can be changed; I have a friend who used to be gay and he met a girl and CHOSE to give it a try and he is now straight, otherwise he wouldn't have a girlfriend, and he isn't BI either

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#31 Jan 20, 2014
Pursuit of happiness as guarenteed by the constiitution of the United States.

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#32 Jan 20, 2014
happy wrote:
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Maybe you should start following a book of rules. FYI, my parents didn't raise me in church. I found Christ as a result of a loving husband and local community. You cannot be "gay with Christ". You need to read the whole bible and realize that it goes against everything taught from families to laws.
I am not a "cafeteria christian" whatever that means. I do take the whole Bible into consideration, not just the old testimate or new. That's not even close to what I said. I'm thankful God loves you for who you are, because you have at least someone fighting for you. I pray daily for the sinners of the world, myself included. For all sin and die daily. I'm not even close to perfect, but when I do sin, I ask for forgiveness. God loves me and He loves you, too. For that, you should be thankful and realize that you need him in your life.
Without rules, the world will continue to get worse. Without rules, who will know the difference of right and wrong. Where will the line be drawn. Our children will not know manners, not to steal, not to cheat or lie. The world needs rules and it's beyond evident that the world has shamelessly forgotten how to behave. That was sheer ignorance to even say.
How sad that a political discussion has turned once again to theology to solve each side. There are 13 or more States that support everyones right to marry, That is the truth, not what was written by a homosexual who was afraid to come out but kept his lover at the court. You know King James. He is the one you quote when you quote the Bible. Any
Gutenberg bibles out there?
allie

Albany, OR

#33 Jan 21, 2014
NO! GOD did not place man to have sex with men, no did he place woman to have sex with woman, HE placed man to be with woman, That is the word of GOD, and we as a nation better listen..Now I want to say we are not to hate gay and lisban,but the behavior is not of GOD...
Nicole

Corvallis, OR

#34 Jan 23, 2014
Male-Female wrote:
is the combination I choose to live my life and have children with. I care less if you like someone who looks like you and has the same genitals, thats your life. We get that SO, SHUT THE **** UP AS TO HOW YOU LIKE IT, AND QUIT SHOUTING IT OUT AND PARADING YOUR LIKES IN PUBLIC. KEEP IT IN THE BEDROOM AND GET ON WITH YOUR LIVES. That is mostly why people disagree with your choice, Idiots.
I sincerely hope that you understand just how ignorant your post sounds and how self serving it comes off as. It's simple, if you don't like it don't look. Why should people have to hide their love for their significant other just because people like you frown upon it? It would be like me telling you that you aren't allowed to display affection in public even if you are with the opposite sex. It doesn't seem logical does it? I thought this was the "land of the free", to love freely without others judging us.

To your comment about "quit shouting it out and parading your likes in public", I have not heard one gay, lesbian, bisexual or even straight person that has gone around in public shouting their sexual orientation, now by your standards its okay if a male/female couple is out in public displaying their affection for one another to the fullest, yet these other couples you speak of aren't even allowed one modest peck on the cheek? Favoritism!! You like what you like and that is fine, but there comes a time when people need to stop worrying about what others are or aren't doing and live their own lives without judging others.

Just remember that little saying in your book "Judge not lest ye be judged".
Nicole

Corvallis, OR

#35 Jan 23, 2014
Everyone deserves the same rights regardless of sexual orientation

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#37 May 29, 2014
Nicole wrote:
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I sincerely hope that you understand just how ignorant your post sounds and how self serving it comes off as. It's simple, if you don't like it don't look. Why should people have to hide their love for their significant other just because people like you frown upon it? It would be like me telling you that you aren't allowed to display affection in public even if you are with the opposite sex. It doesn't seem logical does it? I thought this was the "land of the free", to love freely without others judging us.
To your comment about "quit shouting it out and parading your likes in public", I have not heard one gay, lesbian, bisexual or even straight person that has gone around in public shouting their sexual orientation, now by your standards its okay if a male/female couple is out in public displaying their affection for one another to the fullest, yet these other couples you speak of aren't even allowed one modest peck on the cheek? Favoritism!! You like what you like and that is fine, but there comes a time when people need to stop worrying about what others are or aren't doing and live their own lives without judging others.
Just remember that little saying in your book "Judge not lest ye be judged".
Isn't it Christians who are supposed to keep their light under a barrel and worship within thier own closets? Ironic choice of paraphrase, but not as ironic as a god fearing human quoting their opinion based on incorrect facts, and thalmic response. Good Way to Address Nonsense, just an update there are now 24 States who recognize a persons right to marry whom they choose.
julie

Beaverton, OR

#39 Monday Aug 25
Who are we to say who we should love. Rather it be male or female. We have the right to love who we choose.

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