Faith & Politics Debate - Tulsa, OK

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Which GOP candidate's approach to faith and politics do you find most appealing?

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Since: Jul 08

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#1 Jan 3, 2012
I don't care about religion at all but Huntsman is the most sane candidate in the pack.

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#2 Jan 3, 2012
David Ash Burroughs wrote:
I don't care about religion at all but Huntsman is the most sane candidate in the pack.
Ha. I'm not sure that's saying much. Have you read the book of Mormon? Do you not find it difficult to trust the ability, even sanity, of a leader that is unable to search the facts of that crackpot religion and throw a flag?

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#3 Jan 3, 2012
Iwmfu wrote:
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Ha. I'm not sure that's saying much. Have you read the book of Mormon? Do you not find it difficult to trust the ability, even sanity, of a leader that is unable to search the facts of that crackpot religion and throw a flag?
That is what shocks me in that the religous right wing seems perfectly willing to throw aside the gospel, the bible and embrace a heresy all in the name of electing the white Obama and have an R in the white house instead of a D.

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#4 Jan 3, 2012
David Ash Burroughs wrote:
<quoted text>That is what shocks me in that the religous right wing seems perfectly willing to throw aside the gospel, the bible and embrace a heresy all in the name of electing the white Obama and have an R in the white house instead of a D.
These folks are fighting to control billions of dollars. I doubt there's many "sins" that kind of money couldn't make disappear. Besides, they no more believe in god or an after life than you or I do.

Your religion, like the language you speak, was given to you in your crib.

Its time for an atheist candidate. Don't you think?

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#5 Jan 4, 2012
Iwmfu wrote:
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These folks are fighting to control billions of dollars. I doubt there's many "sins" that kind of money couldn't make disappear. Besides, they no more believe in god or an after life than you or I do.
Your religion, like the language you speak, was given to you in your crib.
Its time for an atheist candidate. Don't you think?
I don't care if the president worships Chewbacka if he can handle the job otherwise. We are not electing pastor in cheif. But the religious right see it otherwise which is weird because Obama has made made declarations of respect if not feelings for Christianity and Romney follows a heresy and yet the evangelicals can only see white guy black guy.

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#6 Jan 4, 2012
David Ash Burroughs wrote:
<quoted text>I don't care if the president worships Chewbacka if he can handle the job otherwise. We are not electing pastor in cheif. But the religious right see it otherwise which is weird because Obama has made made declarations of respect if not feelings for Christianity and Romney follows a heresy and yet the evangelicals can only see white guy black guy.
Good points. The repubs have marched out a ridiculous group of bozo's and a guy that runs every time. At least follow political tradition when you think your going to lose, and add a wealthy business man to the race for pseudo legitimacy.

As I said, I wish Paul would win, putting an end to the dreamy belief people have that "the right guy" can magically fix everything and make the other guy pay.

Corporations fund the system. All of it. It seems quite unlikely they will "allow" a candidate capable of taking away their power into the White House. Would you?
Banker Red Dawn

Baldwin Park, CA

#7 Jan 4, 2012
It is obvious Ron Paul was robbed in Iowa with the secret ballot counting at an undiclosed location. Where did this Rick Santorum vote split come from all of a sudden, this guy was in last place till a few days ago -what a fraud!

Like Obama, Mitt Romney supports the NDAA and SOPA; since he's dodging questions about it he obvioulsy supports it. The NDAA states Americans can now be rounded up and taken to detention centers indefinitely without trial for criticizing the government or banking ellites.

SOPA is a mainland China style censorship of internet free speech. For instance not allowing people to post anything with a link to a youtube clip or news article exposing the government or ellites. This will be very convenient when the government finally starts rounding up people.

We need to get this slimey worm Romney to give a thumbs up or thumbs down on the Natinal Defense Authorization Act since he'll never do it willingly. The banker establishment knows Romney is another easy win for Obama just like McCain was. That's why they need Romney to stay in the race -they know he will loose.

The ellite establishment and their mainstream media puppets are so threatened by Ron Paul they are often not even allowed to mention him by name. Ron Paul is Lord Voldemort to the Nazi ellites. These mainstream media zombie clowns are so transparant now in their deliberate avoidance of Ron Paul it would be comical if it wasn't so scary.

This staged Iowa farce was a beta test for stealing the national election if Ron Paul is forced to run third party. He will be forced to run third party if Iowa remains uncontested.

This is a repeat of how the international bankers transformed a prosperous normal Germany into Nazi Germany. The ellites are completely out of touch with reality to be trying to pull this off in America while we have the internet and the second ammendmant still in place.

Please bookmark/listen to Alex Jones just once -Download a podcast and just listen. Nazi Germany would have been averted if this guy had been around back then broadcasting over the internet and airwaves.

http://rss.infowars.com/Alex.rss

If you love America defend it from the offshore funded revolutionaries trying to overthrow us presently. We must take back America non-violently so our banker bought illegitimate federal government is not given a reason to declare martial law.

Remember the international banking ellites call the shots now, not the government. That's how they continue to get away with all their flagrant crime and corruption without facing any jail time.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...

This is my humble opinion on today's events -I'm doing my small part to get the word out on the net so I can tell my grandkids I didn't just sit back when the offshore ellites tried to weaken and destroy America from within. I am not religious, but this whole situation is starting to make me believe there is a hell as the people destroying America are acting like demonic devils.

If we wait much longer we won't be able to kick the offshore ellites out without force. The U.S. military may start a revolution before we do -they know what is going on and are no longer putting up with this.

Many of my posts are now being censored by Topix. I always have to wonder which link triggered the deletion of the post. Topix is great, but the government is destroying it because people will lose interest in Topix if it is obviously censored. Maybe that's the plan.

This is how the tyranny slowly spreads and takes over -boiling that frog a little at a time.

Vote Ron Paul 2012, you have nothing to loose at this point by trying something completely different. Ron fought hard against the NDAA and SOPA legislation. There should be civil disobedience in Iowa if we are not allowed to see the official vote tallys ASAP.

Tell everyone you know.
message board troll

Reynoldsburg, OH

#8 Jan 4, 2012
I see brdih finaly squatted and peed here.

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#9 Jan 4, 2012
None follow teaching and preaching of Jesus Christ. Just look where they are on Sunday but not on the Sabbath, and most celebrate pagan days of Christmas and Easter but not God's Holy Days. Most of them bear false witness against others.

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#10 Jan 4, 2012
message board troll wrote:
I see brdih finaly squatted and peed here.
Sounds like he/she is right about most of it but badly wrong about Ron Paul. Paul is blinded by his obsessions, as are his supporters.
a2zz

Skiatook, OK

#11 Jan 4, 2012
We already have a Muslim ruining this country, I don't want it finished by a Mormon!!!

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#12 Jan 4, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
None follow teaching and preaching of Jesus Christ.
Neither do you so what's your point?

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#13 Jan 4, 2012
Iwmfu wrote:
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Neither do you so what's your point?
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The point is there is a way that seems right to mammon but the end thereof is death. No one is perfect but blatant, intentional, purposeful disregard of the teaching and preaching of Jesus is the point. Christians trying to justify keeping pagan celebrations like Christmas and Easter is the point. Christians trying to justify not keeping God's Holy Days is the point.

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#14 Jan 4, 2012
a2zz wrote:
We already have a Muslim ruining this country, I don't want it finished by a Mormon!!!
More like liars saying a muslim is ruining country.

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#15 Jan 5, 2012
Iwmfu wrote:
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Good points. The repubs have marched out a ridiculous group of bozo's and a guy that runs every time. At least follow political tradition when you think your going to lose, and add a wealthy business man to the race for pseudo legitimacy.
As I said, I wish Paul would win, putting an end to the dreamy belief people have that "the right guy" can magically fix everything and make the other guy pay.
Corporations fund the system. All of it. It seems quite unlikely they will "allow" a candidate capable of taking away their power into the White House. Would you?
This is the myth of elections that somehow the new president will weild unlimited power and be able to "fix" everything in his first two weeks. The only president who will ever get anything done will be the one who will work with congress to get changes made. The idea that somehow Paul is going to sweep into the white house, wave his hand and end all evil is a laughable myth that we all seem to fall for about lots of candidates each 4 years.
hermit

Jenks, OK

#16 Jan 5, 2012
When someone makes predictions and many of them seem to turn out maybe we should pay more attention.

Ron Paul "predictions speech" 2002

buckwheat

Tulsa, OK

#17 Jan 5, 2012
Iwmfu wrote:
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Its time for an atheist candidate. Don't you think?
Yes.

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#18 Jan 5, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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The point is there is a way that seems right to mammon but the end thereof is death. No one is perfect but blatant, intentional, purposeful disregard of the teaching and preaching of Jesus is the point. Christians trying to justify keeping pagan celebrations like Christmas and Easter is the point. Christians trying to justify not keeping God's Holy Days is the point.
I'm sorry. I still do not see your point. You do not follow the ways of Jesus either. You clearly insinuate above that you hold some key to an after life. Which is a lie. You hold no such key. You are also a hypocrite for damning the faults of others when you yourself posses the exact same faults. I'm not sure who gave you the morality whipping stick but I am quite certain it looks silly sticking out of your azz.

What's your point again?

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#19 Jan 5, 2012
The approach to faith and politics I would support, is that a person's faith is no recommendation for political office, and that the politics of elected representatives should be about representing one's constituents, rather than one's religious views.

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#20 Jan 5, 2012
Iwmfu wrote:
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I'm sorry. I still do not see your point. You do not follow the ways of Jesus either. You clearly insinuate above that you hold some key to an after life. Which is a lie. You hold no such key. You are also a hypocrite for damning the faults of others when you yourself posses the exact same faults. I'm not sure who gave you the morality whipping stick but I am quite certain it looks silly sticking out of your azz.
What's your point again?
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Again, it is following the teaching and preaching of Jesus. Teaching and preaching keeping the 10 Commandments. Preaching and teaching keeping the Holy Days. Preaching and teaching not keeping pagan celebrations like Christmas and Easter. Preaching and teaching the keeping of the Sabbath, not Sunday. It is teaching and preaching what Jesus preached and taught.

Anyone following the teaching and preaching of Jesus is teaching and preaching what Jesus preached and taught.

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