Election Poll, June 2012 Debate - Lakeport, CA

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If the election were held tomorrow, who would get your vote?

Lakeport is voting for Obama.
Barack Obama
 
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Mitt Romney
 
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broke environmentalist

Clearlake, CA

#1 Jun 11, 2012
We are in deep economic trouble. It is time for the pendulum to swing the other way for a while. Vote for Romney
Justa me

Clearlake, CA

#2 Jun 12, 2012
He has business experience, met payroll, hired people, understands the political trenches, etc.We need to give him a chance. Obama has had his and blew it big time. Our Country needs a real leader a real person in charge one that truly cares for America. Not just himself.
Justa me

Clearlake, CA

#3 Jun 12, 2012
He has real world business and has real world political experience. He is successful in his business ventures and I truly believe cares more about America than his own self aggrandizement in politics. Obama had his chance and he squandered it. He has traveled the world on the taxpayers dime, now we are the laughing stock of the world. His appointments have been paybacks not the much needed experts in their fields. AS Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was from the beginning a dismal failure. Attorney General holder is a failure. Rom Emanuel is an insider from Chicago schooled by the Daily machine.
We need a positive change in WDC. Romney will I think fit the bill. If not he will not get another term either.
Justa me

Clearlake, CA

#4 Jun 12, 2012
He has real world business and has real world political experience. He is successful in his business ventures and I truly believe cares more about America than his own self aggrandizement in politics. Obama had his chance and he squandered it. He has traveled the world on the taxpayers dime, now we are the laughing stock of the world. His appointments have been paybacks, not the much needed experts in their fields. AS Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was from the beginning a dismal failure. Attorney General holder is a failure. Rom Emanuel is an insider from Chicago schooled by the Daily machine.
We need a positive change in WDC.
Romney will I think fit the bill. If not he will not get another term either.
Justa me

Clearlake, CA

#5 Jun 12, 2012
Seems like my computer had a hiccup. Sorry 'bout that folks.
Gary Buck

Kelseyville, CA

#6 Jun 19, 2012
economy
K-Dude

Lakeport, CA

#7 Jun 25, 2012
The rich will get richer and you & me will take it in the ??? Go ahead and vote for Bush again!
Local

Clearlake, CA

#8 Jun 25, 2012
The rich have gotten much richer over the last 3.5 years. Some people just don't seem to get that.

btw, I've got a bridge for sale.
Interested?
Really, it's a good deal just for you.
K-Dude

Lakeport, CA

#9 Jun 26, 2012
Oh come on! Who wants to lower tax rates for the very wealthy?...Romney! Who wants to do away with the capital gain tax altogether...Romney! The guy has not said one thing that will benefit the middle class yet. Obama may not be a great president but he is the lesser of two evils! Yes i will vote for him again!
Provocateur

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Jun 26, 2012
Who would vote for the 1%
Provocateur

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Jun 26, 2012
Local wrote:
The rich have gotten much richer over the last 3.5 years. Some people just don't seem to get that.
btw, I've got a bridge for sale.
Interested?
Really, it's a good deal just for you.
The corrupting influences of the 1% are what have brought about global economic devastation, Iraq, Afghanistan, Arab spring, Occupy etc.

Romney has enough of Rmoney.
Local

Clearlake, CA

#12 Jun 26, 2012
Provocateur wrote:
<quoted text>
The corrupting influences of the 1% are what have brought about global economic devastation, Iraq, Afghanistan, Arab spring, Occupy etc.
Romney has enough of Rmoney.
Opinions based upon theory, superstition, and ignorance are not very precious.
Mark Twain

...we all know that in all matters of mere opinion that [every] man is insane--just as insane as we are...we know exactly where to put our finger upon his insanity: it is where his opinion differs from ours....All Democrats are insane, but not one of them knows it. None but the Republicans. All the Republicans are insane, but only the Democrats can perceive it. The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.
Provocateur

Denver, CO

#13 Jun 26, 2012
Local wrote:
<quoted text>
Opinions based upon theory, superstition, and ignorance are not very precious.
Mark Twain
...we all know that in all matters of mere opinion that [every] man is insane--just as insane as we are...we know exactly where to put our finger upon his insanity: it is where his opinion differs from ours....All Democrats are insane, but not one of them knows it. None but the Republicans. All the Republicans are insane, but only the Democrats can perceive it. The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.
If you have nothing to say, say nothing.--Mark Twain
Local

Clearlake, CA

#14 Jun 27, 2012
Provocateur wrote:
Who would vote for the 1%
Voting to raise taxes on the rich in order to cure government spending is a ridiculous notion. First we must cure the original problem(excessive government spending). After all, WE(taxpayers) include everyone.

Greece endeavored to cure their deficits by raising taxes on the rich years ago, but they did't address the root problem(excessive government spending). This year, they have raised taxes on those making 5k (Euro) RETROACTIVE to last year because they needed more revenue.

I don't object to raising taxes on the wealthy, but I do object to raising taxes on ANYONE absent real, meaningful, government spending reform. Until then? No more taxes.
Californians are beginning to wake up. Even the tobacco tax failed.
Why? Do more folks like tobacco?
Hell no. They are sick of taxation from an incompetent government.
Provocateur

Denver, CO

#15 Jun 27, 2012
I'm all for cutting spending on illegal unjust never ending wars. As a matter of fact those automatic defense cuts should be kicking in very soon. We could save an easy trillion there. Let's try and get back on topic.

LET'S START WITH A SMALL LIE

Romney's full name is Willard Mitt Romney. However, on 22 November 2011, during a Republican debate, Romney uttered the following lie:

“I’m Mitt Romney, and yes, Wolf, that’s also my first name.”

A link to an article containing the video clip of Romney the Liar lying about his own first name is located here. An article from The New York Daily News that refers to Romney's "fib" as they call it is here.

You see, "Mitt" makes him sound more like a regular guy--which he isn't, by any stretch. He has never legally changed his name. His first name is NOT Mitt. It is Willard.

As I said, a small lie.
Local

Clearlake, CA

#16 Jun 28, 2012
Stockton bankruptcy: City could file as early as Thursday
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/06...

Mind you that this article comes from the liberal LA Times.
the effects of uncontrolled, incompetent government spending are beginning to play out in California. Other Calif. cities will watch and wait for the opportunity to file bankruptcy themselves to get out from under massive debt to public employee unions. Almost 20% of Calif. cities are now on the edge, San Jose, and San Diego being some of the largest cities in deep trouble.
California government has been compared to the government in Greece for years. The unavoidable
consequences of these accurate comparisons are coming to fruition as we speak.

If only Calif. could print money like the feds.
All would be well!!!!!.....yes?
Wrong. The can would be kicked down the road for another year. The end game is near. The jig is up.
The gravey train is over. Time to buck up!!!!

Justa me

Clearlake, CA

#17 Jun 28, 2012
Obummer has put this Country into a free-fall, both politically and financially. This Obummer "health care" will burden of a 30k taxpayer with an additional 2.5k NEW TAX By Jan 2014..
This "Nanny Massa" has to be driven from office by voters in November.
Provocateur

Denver, CO

#18 Jun 28, 2012
ROMNEY LIES ABOUT OBAMA'S CONTRIBUTION TO THE DEBT

Romney the Liar has claimed, repeatedly, that President Obama has increased the national debt "more than all other president combined".(!) This insulting lie is also easy to shoot down. The evidence presented here is conclusive: the huge burden of debt we are laboring under is the DIRECT result of excessive tax cuts for Mittens and his cronies and the fall of revenues brought about by the Great Recession, a recession that is DIRECTLY the fault of predators and thieves like Mitt Romney. Oh, and the president who DID rack up almost as much debt as all other presidents combined? It was George W. Bush. Here is the truth of the matter--something you won't hear from Mittens the Sociopath:

The national debt is a little over $15 trillion. It stood at almost $12 trillion as of 30 September 2009, the end of Bush's last budget. Romney's statement that Obama has increased the debt more than all other presidents put together is not simply a lie. 

It's a damned lie.
justa me

Clearlake, CA

#19 Jun 28, 2012
Obama budget defeated 99-0 in Senate: By Stephen DinanMay 16, 2012, 04:27PM

President Obama's budget suffered a second embarrassing defeat Wednesday, when senators voted 99-0 to reject it.
Coupled with the House's rejection in March, 414-0, that means Mr. Obama's budget has failed to win a single vote in support this year.
Republicans forced the vote by offering the president's plan on the Senate floor.
Democrats disputed that it was actually the president's plan, arguing that the slim amendment didn't actually match Mr. Obama's budget document, which ran thousands of pages. But Republicans said they used all of the president's numbers in the proposal, so it faithfully represented his plan.
Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, even challenged Democrats to point out any errors in the numbers and he would correct them — a challenge no Democrats took up.
"A stunning development for the president of the United States in his fourth year in office," Mr. Sessions said of the unanimous opposition.
The White House has held its proposal out as a "balanced approach" to beginning to rein in deficits. It calls for tax increases to begin to offset higher spending, and would begin to level off debt as a percentage of the economy by 2022. It would produce $6.4 trillion in new deficits over that time.
By contrast the chief Republican alternative from the House GOP would notch just $3.1 trillion in deficits, and three Senate Republican alternatives would all come in below $2 trillion.
The Senate is holding votes Wednesday on Mr. Obama's budget, the House GOP's budget and the three Senate Republican alternatives. None was expected to gain the 50 votes needed to pass the chamber.
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Yes Obummer is a DUD. Did you know for his "cradle to grave" health
"care" system will have everyone making under $250k pay an additional $2300 in taxes by Jan 2014. Everyone! I haven't yet been able to ascertain what anyone over $250k will pay. BTW those figures were taken from his H.C.P. the supreme court blessed today. The only way it passed is it was touted as a tax increase, not a mandate to purchase (however if you or your employer DOESN'T buy into it you just might END UP IN JAIL. I believe the whole package will cost the American taxpayers $6 Trillion by 2016.
Provocateur

Denver, CO

#20 Jun 29, 2012
ROMNEY THE LIAR CLAIMS HE PAYS A 50%(!) TAX RATE

Man, Willard really does think people are stupid, doesn't he? Now he's claiming that because he donates a lot to charity (even though the bulk of his giving is to his own Mormon Church, and not charitable institutions) that this constitutes "giving back to the community" comparable to being taxed at 40%(even though his 15% rate and 15% in charitable and church giving equals 30%). In addition, he says much of his compensation was originally taxed at the corporate rate of 35%, so it's just as if he were paying HALF of his income in taxes.

Except that he's lying.

...he's saying that thanks to the nominal corporate tax rate of 35 percent, he's actually paying 50 percent in taxes when you add in his 15 percent. Now, if he really believed that he was paying 50 percent in taxes, he wouldn't have said he gives back 40 percent to the community—he'd have said he gives back 75 percent. But he doesn't really believe what he's saying ... because it is patently absurd. 

Paul Krugman has an excellent dismantling of the case Romney is trying to make regarding corporate taxes. First, because most of Romney's capital gains income comes by way of carried interest, it was never previously taxed at 35 percent. Second, almost no companies actually pay the nominal corporate tax rate. Third, even if it were fair to say that the income had previously been taxed at 35 percent rate, conservatives have long argued that corporate taxes come at the expense of worker's wages. Now, suddenly, they are saying it comes at the expensive of investors? Talk about double-counting!

Willard, I think you're lying to us.

Again.

Just keep talking to yourself. I'll check on you later.

I've had a wonderful evening - but this wasn't it.~Groucho Marx

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