Cain's Candidacy Debate - Farmington, NM

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Should Herman Cain drop out of the presidential race?

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Since: May 10

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#1 Nov 30, 2011
Let the people, not the news media, decide whether Cain is a viable candidate.
Wondering

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Nov 30, 2011
Cary L Nickel wrote:
Let the people, not the news media, decide whether Cain is a viable candidate.
"the people"???? Isn't Cain capable of making his own decision?

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#3 Nov 30, 2011
Wondering wrote:
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"the people"???? Isn't Cain capable of making his own decision?
Sure, why not? But he shouldn't be forced out by specious charges that have nothing to do with his political beliefs, nor his ability to lead.

If being a lecherous bastard was good enough for Bill Clinton, it's good enough for Herman Cain. He should not drop out of the race.
be careful

Rio Rancho, NM

#4 Nov 30, 2011
if he makes these kinds of bad choices in his personal life, what kind of bad choices could he make for the country? anyone ruled by his own desires over the good of the whole cannot be trusted.
Wondering

Edgewood, NM

#5 Dec 1, 2011
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Sure, why not? But he shouldn't be forced out by specious charges that have nothing to do with his political beliefs, nor his ability to lead.
If being a lecherous bastard was good enough for Bill Clinton, it's good enough for Herman Cain. He should not drop out of the race.
You are being too hard on Herman Cain to call him a "lecherous bastard". I also do not want him to drop out.

“getting closer to home...”

Since: Aug 08

middle of nowhere NM

#6 Dec 1, 2011
Ill stay out of the question, cause this Cain is on Koch.. so dropping out is up to the puppet handlers, the Bros Koch.

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#7 Dec 1, 2011
Wondering wrote:
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You are being too hard on Herman Cain to call him a "lecherous bastard". I also do not want him to drop out.
Because it simply does not matter to me if he's a lecherous bastard or not. He has the right ideas for running the nation. Only modern liberals are pre-occupied with sex.

Unfortunately, the Democrat spin machine appears to have done him in. I'd still vote for him if he appeared on a ballot here.

Looking more and more like a Romney/Gingrich ticket, though. Romney for business expertise, Gingrich for Constitutional awareness.

I personally have no problem with that, as long as they stay true to their word.

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#8 Dec 1, 2011
just_nobody wrote:
Ill stay out of the question, cause this Cain is on Koch.. so dropping out is up to the puppet handlers, the Bros Koch.
And if it were, I'd have no problem with it. I simply do not find the Koch brothers to be the evil boogeymen liberals label them as.
George Soros is far more dangerous.

“come to Richie,, ”

Since: Nov 10

4-corners man

#9 Dec 1, 2011
so Cary you had no problem with Clintons bastardness? I bet you did!! but your willing to put that aside now hahaha, oh well, Cain is cool, but its over .. the people have decided it seems.... otherwise the machine would still be behind him....

Oh and i find it hard to believe the Party didnt know about his bastardness problem, he was just a Token....
Local

Farmington, NM

#10 Dec 1, 2011
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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And if it were, I'd have no problem with it. I simply do not find the Koch brothers to be the evil boogeymen liberals label them as.
George Soros is far more dangerous.
Typical Cary;
Left wing extremists owning politicians = Bad for us
Right wing extremists owning politicians = No problem

Your hypocrisy is stunning.

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#11 Dec 1, 2011
Richies Cool Man Diary wrote:
so Cary you had no problem with Clintons bastardness? I bet you did!! but your willing to put that aside now hahaha, oh well, Cain is cool, but its over .. the people have decided it seems.... otherwise the machine would still be behind him....
Oh and i find it hard to believe the Party didnt know about his bastardness problem, he was just a Token....
Naw, I didn't care about Clinton's infidelity. It was his lying to congress that was the problem. I had bigger issues with Clinton's liberal policies.

I've seen no evidence of Cain's issues. Just a bunch of statements by people, some of whom don't even want to be identified. He doesn't have real party support at this time, so I doubt they cared.

I'd still vote for him if he got on the ballot.

“come to Richie,, ”

Since: Nov 10

4-corners man

#12 Dec 1, 2011
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Naw, I didn't care about Clinton's infidelity. It was his lying to congress that was the problem. I had bigger issues with Clinton's liberal policies.
I've seen no evidence of Cain's issues. Just a bunch of statements by people, some of whom don't even want to be identified. He doesn't have real party support at this time, so I doubt they cared.
I'd still vote for him if he got on the ballot.
I would agree about Cain, but there was money paid ! Twice! then this new affair thingy,, woo,, seems Cain is lying to the to, Us! oh well, vote on man.... I too would vote for Cain... I would vote for Clinton too, hahaha peace

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#13 Dec 1, 2011
Richies Cool Man Diary wrote:
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I would agree about Cain, but there was money paid ! Twice! then this new affair thingy,, woo,, seems Cain is lying to the to, Us! oh well, vote on man.... I too would vote for Cain... I would vote for Clinton too, hahaha peace
Well, we'll have to differ on one point, I wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton, unless she was the only choice against Barack Obama. Obama has proven to be the overall worst President of my lifetime, worse than even Jimmy Carter..and I didn't think it would be possible for us to have a worse President than Jimmy Carter during one man's lifetime.

I'd comfortably vote for nearly any challenger to Obama. It is imperative that we get him out of office.

But, like it was suggested in another forum, the nation elected Obama in the first place, so perhaps overall we deserve the economic and social destruction and chaos Obama's election has brought upon us. Perhaps four more years of the same is what this country needs to teach it a lesson.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-w...

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#14 Dec 1, 2011
Local wrote:
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Typical Cary;
Left wing extremists owning politicians = Bad for us
Right wing extremists owning politicians = No problem
Your hypocrisy is stunning.
Call if hypocrisy if you wish, but I reject the modern left, and embrace and support the modern right, so why wouldn't I support those who also support the right?

If it is to be a war of ideals between Soros and the Koch brothers, I side with the Koch brothers. Getting big money behind conservative, constitutional ideals is good for the nation.

Of course, I reject out of hand that the Koch brothers are the boogeymen liberals say they are.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/debunking-bloo...
Libertarian

Farmington, NM

#15 Dec 2, 2011
Cary L Nickel wrote:
so perhaps overall we deserve the economic and social destruction and chaos Obama's election has brought upon us.
What an ill-informed understanding you have of what actually brought on the economic collapse. It began long before Obama was elected. In fact it began long before he was even a Senator.

But I understand that, like the cock who believes his crowing is the reason the sun comes up every morning, you can't actually connect the economic dots that led up to this mess.

That's why guys like you are so easily led.

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#16 Dec 2, 2011
Libertarian wrote:
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What an ill-informed understanding you have of what actually brought on the economic collapse. It began long before Obama was elected. In fact it began long before he was even a Senator.
But I understand that, like the cock who believes his crowing is the reason the sun comes up every morning, you can't actually connect the economic dots that led up to this mess.
That's why guys like you are so easily led.
No, it is YOU who is uninformed. Do a little research. ALL of the United State's economic woes have modern big-government liberalism at their heart, whether that liberalism was enacted by Republicans or Democrats. Obama's election promised MORE of the same: "Change You can Believe in." has turned out to be more ineffective big government solutions to problems CAUSED by big government "solutions" to other problems.

Can't afford a home? Have government force lenders to give you money you cannot afford to pay back.

High energy prices? Have government simply regulate more, and spend more taxpayer money to develop energy in foreign lands, while continuing to lock away domestic sources that would provide less expensive energy and create domestic jobs.

High unemployment? Borrow more money and create temporary government jobs that have no long-term financial support, let alone long term need. All the while wishing that the economy will somehow magically chase the tail of the debt created by massive borrowing that threatens to drive our economy into deeper recession as inflation drives up prices for food, energy, and raw materials.

Government centered solutions breed waste and laziness..so what does Obama promise? Even MORE government centered solutions.

Fact is, President Obama's actions have done NOTHING but keep our nation deadlocked in economic morass, while a politically manipulated stock market, with it's wild swings, continues to make millions for those insiders privy to the info necessary to know when to get in and get out.

Free market principles are unchanging, unwavering, and unquestionably the most successful method of growing an economy. A return to true capitalism, and a reduction of government interference, are the ONLY methods that will return the United States to the economic power we once held.

Modern liberalism appears content to allow the U.S. to fall from within, by driving away industry and jobs across the board, reducing tax revenue, while at the same time driving up the need for public funding of government services, entitlements, and welfare.

And economic system based on increasing spending while at the same time reducing funding simply can not stand.
Libertarian

Farmington, NM

#17 Dec 2, 2011
You blamed it all on Obama.

"But, like it was suggested in another forum, the nation elected Obama in the first place, so perhaps overall we deserve the economic and social destruction and chaos Obama's election has brought upon us."

You simply do not understand our complex economic system and when this started. Otherwise you wouldn't make such stupid statements.

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#18 Dec 2, 2011
Libertarian wrote:
You blamed it all on Obama.
"But, like it was suggested in another forum, the nation elected Obama in the first place, so perhaps overall we deserve the economic and social destruction and chaos Obama's election has brought upon us."
You simply do not understand our complex economic system and when this started. Otherwise you wouldn't make such stupid statements.
No, I stated that the U.S. might deserve the economic and social destruction Obama's presidency has brought upon us:

The aimless sit-ins of the "Occupy" movement, unstable markets, investor fear, high unemployment, economic uncertainty, record numbers on unemployment and food stamps, etc. etc.

Another four years of the same would be idiotic.

Free market principles are the cure to all of our economic ills. Less government, not more, is the answer.

“getting closer to home...”

Since: Aug 08

middle of nowhere NM

#19 Dec 2, 2011
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Well, we'll have to differ on one point, I wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton, unless she was the only choice against Barack Obama. Obama has proven to be the overall worst President of my lifetime, worse than even Jimmy Carter..and I didn't think it would be possible for us to have a worse President than Jimmy Carter during one man's lifetime.
I'd comfortably vote for nearly any challenger to Obama. It is imperative that we get him out of office.
But, like it was suggested in another forum, the nation elected Obama in the first place, so perhaps overall we deserve the economic and social destruction and chaos Obama's election has brought upon us. Perhaps four more years of the same is what this country needs to teach it a lesson.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-w...
anti-Obama no matter what he does. if change he wanted change we got. The most filibusters in one yr,Obamas first year.A Gop house, who pledged there allegiance, to another?? before the THE COUNTRY,Grover Norquist, and his party of "NO",, that's change, to say the least.a jobs bill that scares the GOP so bad, they are painting themselves into a corner, if they havn't already.it is they who should be fired not Obama but you an anti-Obama blogger so its like talking to a wall.I don't need to post a site, i just open my eyes..Merry Christmas Cary.. no sarcasm in that ok.

“leaning left”

Since: Mar 09

local

#20 Dec 3, 2011
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Because it simply does not matter to me if he's a lecherous bastard or not. He has the right ideas for running the nation. Only modern liberals are pre-occupied with sex.
Unfortunately, the Democrat spin machine appears to have done him in. I'd still vote for him if he appeared on a ballot here.
Looking more and more like a Romney/Gingrich ticket, though. Romney for business expertise, Gingrich for Constitutional awareness.
I personally have no problem with that, as long as they stay true to their word.
Cary, Cary, Cary once again you are so wrong. Why would the Dems go after Cain? He is the dream candidate to run against Obama. An ignorant, uninformed, womanizer. Hell, I would contribute to his campaign if I thought he could get the nomination. I'll bet if the truth were known the fat, white slug aka Karl Rove and his ilk are more behind the smear of Old Herm than any Dems. Alas, I will have to hold out for the brilliant, highly informed geniuses {Rick Perry or Michelle Bachman} No insult to Paul Ruebens but PEE WEE Herman would be a better candidate than anyone the cons have paraded out so far........

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