Death Penalty Debate - Springfield, OR

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Sep 24, 2012
 
Heidi Hensley wrote:
an eye for an eye :)
....makes the whole world blind.
Mahatma Gandhi

"Thou shall not kill" 6th Commandment in the book of Exodus...Old Testament.

JESUS SAYS...

"You have heard that it was said,'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if anyone would sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles."

Matthew 5: 38-41

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Sep 24, 2012
 
I don't support the death penalty for anyone...neither does most of the world.
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Sep 24, 2012
 
JESUS also said "I come not to change the law but to fulfill the law, not to change one tittle" the old testament says a murderer shall be put to death.thatg's the law

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Sep 24, 2012
 
New American Standard Bible (1995)Matthew 5:21

"You have heard that the ancients were told,'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER ' and 'Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.'

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) SAME VERSE..

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment..
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Doesn't matter if you call it killing or murder...There is NO difference! It's still against the teachings of Christ. If you call yourself a Christian then you can not condone capital punishment.

The law being talked about is the law of the prophets and Moses the law handed down from Mt.Sini, which was the 10 Commandments.

Never base a biblical argument on just one verse.

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Sep 24, 2012
 
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I don't support the death penalty for anyone...neither does most of the world.
BTW....Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ and the new covenant with God that came with the birth of Christ.... NOT the Old Testament.

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Sep 25, 2012
 
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Sorry wise one, I must be so wrong if I disagree with you oh wise scholar. LOL
It doesn't take a scholar to know that Christianity is based on Christ. It DOES take a numbskull NOT to know that.
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Sep 26, 2012
 
the original hewbrew is very specific between muder and killing , muder is premeditated killing is not
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Sep 26, 2012
 
The old estament is just an example of the new. many times when askeds a vquestion, CHRIST said haven't you read? and he baisically brought Danieal into the new. being there was no new testment at the time of CHRIST what did he mean when he said havn't you read?
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Sep 26, 2012
 
Nancy,the whole bible is about CHRIST,the old points to him ,the new of course tells tthe rest. If you don't understand the begining howcan you understand the end? It's aletter he wrote to us so don't you think it,s a good idea to read what FATHER wrote? Oh by the way the minor prophets is like reading tommaros newspaper, that's old.

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Sep 26, 2012
 
iron hawk wrote:
the original hewbrew is very specific between muder and killing , muder is premeditated killing is not
It's the Jews beliefs that are based on the old testament because they don't believe in Christ. Murder by any other name is still killing and Christ said to turn the other cheek...The Ten Commandments of the Old Testament also says no killing....no shite.

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Sep 26, 2012
 
the 22 pslams is about the curifixon of CHRIST even what he said right to the gabbling for his garmnts.thats old testament,and CHRIST'S mother was of judha and levi.The old testament points to the coming of CHRIST.

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Sep 26, 2012
 
iron hawk wrote:
the 22 pslams is about the curifixon of CHRIST even what he said right to the gabbling for his garmnts.thats old testament,and CHRIST'S mother was of judha and levi.The old testament points to the coming of CHRIST.
What in the world are you talking about? Psalm 22 was written about 1000 years before the death of Christ by David. Your point is?

http://www.ahapoetry.com/psalmhpg.htm

For 2,000 years Jews have rejected the Christian idea of Jesus as messiah. Why?
Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah...

http://www.aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html

Doesn't matter which way you slice it...Jesus said no killing. Read the WHOLE psalm.
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Sep 26, 2012
 
the old testament is just a forshadow of the new.in revelations it speaks of the "song of moses"which you wouldn't know if you haven't read det.32.CHRIST refered manyt times to the old tstement, without the old how could you know those of the synagoug of satan, which was taught by the two churches CHRIST finds no fault with in rev.

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iron hawk wrote:
the old testament is just a forshadow of the new.in revelations it speaks of the "song of moses"which you wouldn't know if you haven't read det.32.CHRIST refered manyt times to the old tstement, without the old how could you know those of the synagoug of satan, which was taught by the two churches CHRIST finds no fault with in rev.
This is off topic. The title of this thread is DEATH PENALTY...not the bible. Got that? Good!
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Sep 26, 2012
 
CHRIST did not come to change the law but fulfill it . the law states "thou shall not muder",murders shall be put to death. GOT IT. GOD doese not change he's the same yesterday today forever you don't beleave that then you call GOD a liarer which aia would not advice

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Sep 26, 2012
 
iron hawk wrote:
CHRIST did not come to change the law but fulfill it . the law states "thou shall not muder",murders shall be put to death. GOT IT. GOD doese not change he's the same yesterday today forever you don't beleave that then you call GOD a liarer which aia would not advice
One last time...The law that is being talked about is the Ten Commandments that says "thou shall not kill."
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These are DIRECT ORDER FROM CHRIST...

Matthew 5:38

"You have heard that it was said,'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'

Matthew 5:39

But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Matthew 5:40

And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.

Jesus NEVER condones killing OR murder.

Have a nice eternity....stop trying to disguise who you are with lousy typing.
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Sep 26, 2012
 
i'll not cast anymore pearls befor swine bye bye
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Sep 26, 2012
 
take a hypothectial situation.you are walking down the street with a loved one some gang bangers start beating youur loved one.would you turn the other cheek then?or call cops who may not show for ten minuets by then your loved one be dead.I pray it never happens to you. As for my typing you make fun of, I have sever nerve damage through out my body so have a good laugh
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Sep 26, 2012
 
death is the penelty for murder
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Sep 26, 2012
 
nancy botwin hope you'r yucking it up. SO if FATHERS word is so unimportant why is it in your bible? did you know judha and isreal are split?If not again you call father a liar.You really think all Isreal is in that tiny county? read some true history lady.I KNOW THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT BUT YOU NEED A BIBLE LESSON.

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