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Da Man

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#43
Aug 12, 2011
 
The Kangaroo wrote:
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Who said "income" taxes? Not me. They pay a higher percentage of their income in sales and excise taxes and fees.
They have to generate an "income" AND contribute to the operation of the country before you can start crying about sales and excise taxes. Already, by paying ZERO income tax they keep a larger percentage of their welfare/SRS/Unemployment funds.
Those are all donations from those of us that work for a living.
Most of the bottom feeders, the 41% that pay ZERO income tax and suck off the teats of the country, don't have the income to pay much in sales tax. At most, they would pay sales taxes only and locally that is under 10%. That is the same percentage as everyone else that purchases goods, except that they have the luxury of sitting on their butts and doing absolutely NOTHING for their funds. So what other hidden taxes and fees do the sick, lame and lazy pay, Roo? Gotta pay that crack tax? Pookie charging an excise tax on pot? Or maybe you are counting Bail Bonds and fines to get out of jail? Come on, big boy, take the thumb out of your mouth and explain it to me.
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#44
Aug 16, 2011
 
Couldn't have said it better myself! Kudos!

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Aug 16, 2011
 
Da Man wrote:
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They have to generate an "income" AND contribute to the operation of the country before you can start crying about sales and excise taxes. Already, by paying ZERO income tax they keep a larger percentage of their welfare/SRS/Unemployment funds.
Those are all donations from those of us that work for a living.
Most of the bottom feeders, the 41% that pay ZERO income tax and suck off the teats of the country, don't have the income to pay much in sales tax. At most, they would pay sales taxes only and locally that is under 10%. That is the same percentage as everyone else that purchases goods, except that they have the luxury of sitting on their butts and doing absolutely NOTHING for their funds. So what other hidden taxes and fees do the sick, lame and lazy pay, Roo? Gotta pay that crack tax? Pookie charging an excise tax on pot? Or maybe you are counting Bail Bonds and fines to get out of jail? Come on, big boy, take the thumb out of your mouth and explain it to me.
You excuse the indolence of wastrels like your own progeny to attack folks who grew up without their advantages. The real bloodsuckers of our society are the scum that popped out of your wife's snatch and for whom you paid the house down payment.

Your classist rhetoric is reprehensible.
What a Kanga Joke

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#46
Aug 17, 2011
 
Nothing to see here folks. Just more whining and name-calling.

Also, no answers, rebuttals, facts, links, etc..etc...etc.

Also we notice that the Kangaroo couldn't even back up his own assertion that the poor pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes.

Typical of the Roo, when proven to be the lying sack of crap that he is, he tucks his tail, calls names and hops away.

Kangaroo UBER FAIL.

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Aug 17, 2011
 
What a Kanga Joke wrote:
Nothing to see here folks. Just more whining and name-calling.
Also, no answers, rebuttals, facts, links, etc..etc...etc.
Also we notice that the Kangaroo couldn't even back up his own assertion that the poor pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes.
Typical of the Roo, when proven to be the lying sack of crap that he is, he tucks his tail, calls names and hops away.
Kangaroo UBER FAIL.
Do the math, dumbass.

If you make $100K/year, an 8% sales tax costs you a higher percentage of your income than if you make $10K/year.

If you failed fourth grade math, that would make sense.

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#48
Aug 17, 2011
 
sorry, lwer percentage. IOW the poor pay way more than their share.
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#49
Aug 17, 2011
 
The poor pay way more than their share? Please, save that to yourself. Other than sales tax, they pay no tax at all. As a matter of fact, after they receive their welfare benefits, where's any tax at all?
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#50
Aug 17, 2011
 
Wow wrote:
The poor pay way more than their share? Please, save that to yourself. Other than sales tax, they pay no tax at all. As a matter of fact, after they receive their welfare benefits, where's any tax at all?
Exactly the questions the Tax and Spend Liberals never can quite answer.
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#51
Aug 17, 2011
 
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sorry, lwer percentage. IOW the poor pay way more than their share.
No. They pay their share ONLY if they actually work, pay full taxes, contribute to society, not commit crimes and stay the hell off of the drugs. Then when they pay their percentage in taxes and when the government keeps it without giving them assistance they will be pulling their load. Why should anyone get a free ride?
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#52
Aug 17, 2011
 
Exactly wrote:
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No. They pay their share ONLY if they actually work, pay full taxes, contribute to society, not commit crimes and stay the hell off of the drugs. Then when they pay their percentage in taxes and when the government keeps it without giving them assistance they will be pulling their load. Why should anyone get a free ride?
There are many working poor doing EXACTLY that. Working, no assistance, drug-free, no criminal record, paying taxes, not qualified for EIC or WIC or Food assistance, because they DO work. Don`t lump the proud working poor into the welfare class, they are not and deserve a hell of a lot more respect, because they are now the FORMER Middle Class. I had to point that out, thanks.
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#54
Aug 17, 2011
 
Then they are paying their share. It's a matter of percentages. I applaud the working poor and help as many of them as I can. (Tips, donations, church contributions, etc.) They are truly the ones suffering due to the 41% of Americans that contribute nothing but receive money, goods and services. They are the ones that are truly deserving of respect. Excellent point.

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#55
Aug 17, 2011
 
Exactly wrote:
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No. They pay their share ONLY if they actually work, pay full taxes, contribute to society, not commit crimes and stay the hell off of the drugs. Then when they pay their percentage in taxes and when the government keeps it without giving them assistance they will be pulling their load. Why should anyone get a free ride?
It's your kids getting that free ride, not working folks.
screwy roo

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Aug 19, 2011
 
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It's your kids getting that free ride, not working folks.
I keep trying to see it from your point of view, but I cant get my head that far up my butt.

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Aug 19, 2011
 
screwy roo wrote:
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I keep trying to see it from your point of view, but I cant get my head that far up my butt.
You support a future generation of scum like yourself. You are a drain on the Republic, but your kids, as hard as it is to believe since you're such a low down dirty scumbag will be worse because you've invested them with the sense of entitlement you have.
Clarity

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#58
Aug 19, 2011
 
Exactly wrote:
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No. They pay their share ONLY if they actually work, pay full taxes, contribute to society, not commit crimes and stay the hell off of the drugs. Then when they pay their percentage in taxes and when the government keeps it without giving them assistance they will be pulling their load. Why should anyone get a free ride?
Put your broad brush away. What the Roo didn't clearly state is that the lower income class pays a higher percentage of their income in taxes than the wealthier segments of our society. This comes down to the fact that they spend most or all of their income purchasing things and so things such as sales tax, gas tax, utility taxes, social security taxes, fees, etc. account for a greater percentage of their income than the rich.

And for those that state that renters don't pay taxes, you're deceiving yourself. Every landlord takes into account their property taxes when setting the rent. The renter ultimately pays that tax.

Its all about proportion and the way things are set up in this country. Social security and medicare taxes all have top ends. make over $80,000 (that's the last figure I remember, it may have increased some) and you stop paying those taxes. The poor can't always live in well insulated homes or drive fuel efficient vehicles to reduce their bills and thus their taxes.

Get a reality check. Not every poor person is on welfare. Not every person on welfare is on it to avoid work. They may have made some poor choices. They may still be paying for the poor choices their parents made. They may be there due to circumstances that were not their making and are trying to live a life.

You all take the stereotypes of the 60's and 70's, revive them for your selfish arguments and paint that segment of society with the scarlet red paint of your old used up brush. Put it away.
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#59
Aug 19, 2011
 
That was one of the most level-headed, sensible posts I have ever read. This country would be a much better place if everybody else had the understanding, compassion, and intelligence you possess. I salute you, sir or madame.

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#60
Aug 19, 2011
 
Clarity wrote:
Get a reality check. Not every poor person is on welfare. Not every person on welfare is on it to avoid work. They may have made some poor choices. They may still be paying for the poor choices their parents made. They may be there due to circumstances that were not their making and are trying to live a life.
You all take the stereotypes of the 60's and 70's, revive them for your selfish arguments and paint that segment of society with the scarlet red paint of your old used up brush. Put it away.
Verily you speak the truth - the Right-Wing has been pushing these "conventional wisdoms" at variance with facts and fooling the lumpens for sixty years.

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