Abortion Debate - Oklahoma City, OK

[Michael]

Abortion is murder

[ThomasA]

Michael wrote:

Abortion is murder

In your eyes but a woman has a constitutional right under Roe v Wade to a safe legal abortion if she so desires WITHOUT interference from religious zealots and people who have no involvement with the situation.

[pappy]

Well Folks, if the people we elect to represent usin goverment would actually face the facts, contraceptives in use now has prevented thousands of abortions and teen pregancy has droped to its lowestever. So contraceptives must be working. And contraceptives should be offered in all insurance policies. Now we have states like Missippippee trying to put all contraceptives off the pharmy list in their states. resul;ts would be more abortions and teen [pregancies. Plus STD would become more prevalent, did Mississippi officials think of aids before trying to pass the no contracetions bill and no abortions. The results will be gentlemen you will loose your pplace at the dinner table because of too many pregancies in your family.Now that leaves iot up to the woman to start saying to the man of the house--no sex tonight dearie--its cut off time. Can you see the results of thsoe anti contraceptive men who are supppose to represent us in goverment wanting to cut off contra ceptives after a case of cut off fron their favorite pass time--sex--would they then change their mind? For a fact no one is fopr abortion, but it is a fact of life--it can not be done away with--the facts prove that. With or without the goverments saying yes or no, a desparate woman will get herabortion, especially if it is a life or death situation for her life and her living or dying--she has other children to think of and she is also the mother and care taker of those children born to her and should be her choice between her and GOD, not some elected official. Hell folks bushj never lifted a finger to stop the economic collpase of our economy and you folks want a woman to depend on those elected trying top take her choice away--impossible to stop.Abortion is here to stay --legal or illegal. It is all just elected officials playing a political game and nothing else, chasing votes. SO LAdioes it is you choice also asto who gets elected, so make it your choice as to the use of whether opr not you get the choice of the use of contraceptives. This old boy believes iot is your choice now, today and tommorow.

[LifeYes]

Life should always be legal. We don't have exceptions for killing people at other times in their lives. Life Yes, Abortion No

[pappy]

Yes, then why do the republicans bring the subject of abortion and do nothing to prevent except in the times of voting---the Republicans had control of both houses of congress plus Bush as president and done nothing about abortion or its prevention. the republicans only make use of abortion as a political tool to gather the votes of the extreme right at times when they need the votes of the extrem right on abortion. Then why diod they not use that time to pass laws to prevent abortion----if they had done so they would then lose one of their political tools and the loss of such a political weapon would in the end would leave them a loser in the future as they would no longer have as a abortion as a politiacal football

[pappy]

Yes, abortion has been used forever--the first known abortion tool to be used was probably a smoothed small limb. By the way when a woman is made to have an unltra sound to get picture of her fetus because of the new laws passed in several states as a abortion prevention wil have to have her privates invaded by the wand used in such uultra sound pictures made. Amazing and Republicans say they are the champion of making goverment smaler--Seems to me they keep passing laws that make goverment bigger --for example, hiring of private security, balack water forinstance that are paid far more than a soldier doing the same job, now is that making goverment smaller or bigger? Bigger and costlier I think.

[pappy]

sO LADIES, IF THAT PERSON HOOD BILL PASSES IN THE HOUSE YOU MAY NOT BE BUYING THAT MORNING AFTER BIRTH CONTROL PILL. bUT THERE IS ONE THING THE rEPUBLICANS HAVE PUT IN PLACE IS THE ARGUEMENT OF ONE MORE KID AT THERI CONCEPTION --A CLIM OF ANOTHER DEPENDANT ON YOUR OKLAHOMA INCOME TAXES--YOU GET TO PAY LESS FROM YOUR PAY CHECK AND RECIEVE MORE BACK IN RETURNS --THE LEGISLATURES HAVE OPENDED THE DOOR TO PAYING LESS IN STATE INCOME TAXES FROM THE DATE OF CONCEPTION--MEANS LESSFUNDS COMING INTO THE STATE COFFERS AND MORE LEAVING THE STATE COFFERS ON MORE KIDS IN A FAMILY. bET THSOE LEGISLATORS NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT ONE THOUGHT ON THEIR MIND. bUT IT WILL CREATE MORE CHILDREN IN POVERTY.

[pappy]

nOW TELL ME WHEN WILL THE RESPONSIBILITY FALL ON THE OTHER OF THE BABY CREATORS --THE MEN. wITHOUT THAT HALF OF THE BABY MAKING MACHINE BEING HELD RESPONSIBLE ----i DO NOT SEE THEM USING THE SO CALLED BIRTH CONTROL METHOD OF CROSSING THEIR LEGS. lADIES, THE RESPONSIBILITY ACCORING TO THE MEN ,IT ALLL FALLS UPON YOUR SHOULDERS

[pappy]

LifeYes wrote:

Life should always be legal. We don't have exceptions for killing people at other times in their lives. Life Yes, Abortion No

hEY lIFE, THE STATE IS KILLING PEOPLE EVERY DAY

[Justness]

pappy wrote:

<quoted text> hEY lIFE, THE STATE IS KILLING PEOPLE EVERY DAY

. What do you mean the state is killing people every day?

[pappy]

Folks, I find it absolutely a big contrast in regulating betwen womens rightss and the regulation of the big bail out boys on Wall street. Seems the far right wing Republicans and the tea baggers seem to forget about the responsibility Wall streeters have in our world of finance and the responsibility they have to their customers who keep them in business. I find it absolutely insane to pass regulation on a womans vagina and then let wall street go completely unregulated during one of the worst recessions ever since the great depression. those that call theirselves republicans are looking in the wrong derection for which to pass their regulation. I look for them to soon pass regulation as to the proper way to get rid ofvaginal dryness, as if they are samrt enough to handle such matters which should be left entirely up to a woman and her worldly experiences in birthing and parenting and the needs in her life. With that much experiencea lady should know what is needed in her life. After all gents even your mother who whipped your ass when needed and maybe even when not , jsut to remind you of who was your mother and overseer of proper bringing up. So lets get back to prper regulation of WALL STREEET and let the ladies handle the vagina end of it and its need of no regulating.

[Eva Hecker]

There is no justification for the murder of an innocent citizen in our nation.

[Eva in Oklahoma]

ThomasA wrote:

<quoted text>In your eyes but a woman has a constitutional right under Roe v Wade to a safe legal abortion if she so desires WITHOUT interference from religious zealots and people who have no involvement with the situation.

Where would the Jews have been if we had not got involved? They were not our citizens.....
Putting a label on an act does not make it right.

[pappy]

At one time EVA, we did not get involved. Even after a ship loaded down with JEWS sat off our east coast line in the l;ate 30s. The Jews on that ship had been given the chance to leave Nazi Germany and boud tickets on that ship----The Jews on that ship returned to Nazi Germeny after being denied to land in our ports on the Atlantic Coast. After returning to Nzi Germany they ended up being gassed and put in the ovens of a death camp courtsey of the NAZIs of Germany. So for some we came to late. Every one in the world turned a blind eye to the happenings in Nzi Germenay in one big self denial. Even the citizens of Nazi Germany denied the what was happening right in front of their eyes even when they saw the smoke rising from the chimneys of the ovens --the final destination of so many JEWS. The same as we denied the Blacks of their civil rights. And to this day we still have holocost type killings of a people yet still happening in our world today, it is still ignored.

[ThomasA]

Eva in Oklahoma wrote:

<quoted text>
Where would the Jews have been if we had not got involved? They were not our citizens.....
Putting a label on an act does not make it right.

Neither does sticking your looooooong pointy nose in other people's business where it's not wanted or welcomed. If someone asks for you opinion fine, otherwise -----BUTT OUT !!!

[pappy]

Justness wrote:

<quoted text>. What do you mean the state is killing people every day?

Justness, people die every day, 45000 a year because they have no insurance and the republicans seem to me they do not want people of lwer incomes tpo get insurance as they want to doaway with Obamacare--why is that? By the way where are the death panels the Republicans spoke so much of--hot air only. How about the reduction in the food stamp program and the WICK programd that feeds children under 5 years of age. Why were these programs by takeiing dollars away from them--they feed children. Now in Florida the food stamp reciptien has to take a drug test----and pay for it to quailify for the program and if they fail the children suffer for lack of food----only 2 percent fail the test.

[pappy]

Eva Hecker wrote:

There is no justification for the murder of an innocent citizen in our nation.

How about the death of an innocent man sent to prison--a proven fact in TEXAS. Proven fact an innocent man was sent top prison and died in prison and he was proven innocent.

[ThomasA]

pappy wrote:

<quoted text> Justness, people die every day, 45000 a year because they have no insurance and the republicans seem to me they do not want people of lwer incomes tpo get insurance as they want to doaway with Obamacare--why is that? By the way where are the death panels the Republicans spoke so much of--hot air only. How about the reduction in the food stamp program and the WICK programd that feeds children under 5 years of age. Why were these programs by takeiing dollars away from them--they feed children. Now in Florida the food stamp reciptien has to take a drug test----and pay for it to quailify for the program and if they fail the children suffer for lack of food----only 2 percent fail the test.

And that two per cent is two per cent that the taxpayers don't have to pay for! Keep testing. It's time we cut the bloodsucking leeches and cockroaches out of the system. No wic program or welfare for the mothers who won't tell who be de babydaddy so he can pay child support. Kick people out of public housing if their kids are using and selling drugs there. No excuses allowed,CONTROLL your kids or sleep on the streets. Do monthly dog checks and surprise checks of welfare people at home. If there is money for big screen TVs,beer,dope,ATV's,guns,cigar ettes, tattoos,junk food,monster sterio systems, 24"rims and tires, jackemup pickups,pit bulls,and Big Bubba Bass Boats, they don't need your's or my money,PERIOD! Welfare should be a temporary journey in life,not a final destination. Eliminate the deadwood. The growls of their hungry bellies may get them off their butts.

[pappy]

ThomasA, do not forget, you may fal into that crack of no food, or some of your kinfolks. I suggest you check your families economics and you are probably hsve one or more members alrady in that crack, still falling, and on the goverment dole. I would rather those in need get the money I pay in taxes rather than a banker that cost families their jobs, homes and the worlds econmy the mortgage fananciers cost us, the banksters who committed fraus and Bush would not prosecute. nor investigate.

[Deryl Crawford]

I think I should not even be asked about an abortion. Its not my business unless its my wife or family. Then we can discuss out of media. Pro choice with rules.