Chiropractors for kids?

Once again, twisting the truth.

When a patient takes pain meds or goes to therapy to improve fuction or reduce pain, is that treatment of the disease or managing a portion of it?

I know, the difference is too subtle for your untrained mind to grasp, so you just contiue to prentend that we say things that we don't actually say, even though anyone with a computer can read what has been said and know, unequivically, that you are lying and twisting the truth.

Stupid.

While that may be your spin on why chiropractors treat cancer patients, the fact of the matter is that chiropractors advertise they can treat cancer, parkinsons MS bed wetting asthma, and trigger finger etc etc.

The links to the advertisements of chiropractors who claim to treat these diseases can be found at chirotalk.

And lets face it, you chiropractors never get any clinical experience with cancer mS or any other illnesses for that matter. Save for some back and neck conditions.

You quacks are wholly unqualified to comment on or treat on any diseases.

The chiropractic diaper needs to be emptied.

You haven't a clue Wisdump. You simply don't have the back ground to understand and comment.

Eveyone here can read those adds and web sites and can see for themselves how stupid your lies are.

How is it that you are so stupid?

Go to chirotalk, the links are there.

Don't take my word for it.

And certainly, don't take a quack chiropractor's word for it.

Heck, this quack, nwtk claimed he can cure asthma and bed wetting by clicking spines.

he also said he can reduce the medication cancer patients take. Of course like all chiropractors, he received NO clinical training in any of those diseases. "Cancer", I mean really.

I don't make this stuff up. though this quack would have you believe otherwise. Even he knows just how embarrassing his "education" was.

I understand his anger, It should be directed at his quack chiropractic school, however.

Actually, it is Mr Botnick who claimed to cure asthma.

Wisdump here doesn't know the first thing about the levels of treatment involved in treatment of any condition what so ever. Wisdump has never ever treated a thing. Period.

How could Wisdump possibly know a thing about "treatment" of any conditon at all?

No training at all. No practice at all. No degree at all; in anything at all. Not even general studies.

He failed and flunked out of chiro school and wants revenge for his poor performance in school and their requirement that you actually pass classes legitimately.

Wow, considering you have no idea who I am or what I do, you have proven yourself to be a true lying chiropractor.

Just because I have proven myself to be an expert on chiropractic doesn't mean you have to engage in false accusations about me. but then again, you are a chiropractor.

A "parker" chiropractor at that. making things up as you go. I show that you claimed to cure asthma with the "activator" clicker and you respond with, ha ha ha , "you failed out of chiropractic college" or some such nonsense.

Again, don't take my word that chiropractors claim to treat cancer and parkinsons and bed wetting, the links can be found at the world's finest skeptical chiropractic web site ... "chirotalk"

I really don't care what you do. Obviously nothing of any merit. You would prove me wrong if you could. You haven't so you can't.

Expert? Mr Researcher? Right.

chirotalk .... no comments this entire day?.. 1 yesterday?... none Monday?... 2 Sunday?.

Impressive. And a growing concern for failed "doctor want to be's" to find their way into nursing.

I teach classes for nurses by the way Wisdump? You ever taught a class for any one, at all, going into any medical field, at all? I tutored medical students in biochemistry. Good cash money in tutoring medical students. Ever do any tutoring Wisdump?

Oh, thats right, you don't have any credibility.

Just want to show everyone how stupid wisPIGGY really is. But I guess everyone knew that already
Read and weep Mr. Pig
Chiropractors are Primary Care Providers Focused on Healthy Lifestyle Promoting and Cost-Saving Preventative Care.
Chiropractors promote preventative care by providing advice on diet, exercise and lifestyle. Preventive care results in cost savings as health is maintained, disease avoided, and costly procedures forgone.
Chiropractic was founded in 1895 and since that time has been the choice for millions of patients with a variety of health concerns who want safe and effective treatment without drugs or surgery.
Doctors of chiropractic are required to refer patients to the appropriate health care provider if a condition is detected that is not subject to appropriate management by chiropractic methods or techniques.
Scope of Practice
Doctors of chiropractic are trained to diagnose all conditions: History taking and physical exam techniques
Appropriate use of laboratory and other tests such as MRI and x-ray
Doctors of chiropractic are educated, trained and licensed by the state of California to treat all conditions, diseases, or injuries in a manner consistent with chiropractic methods and techniques.
Doctors of chiropractic provide treatment without drugs or surgery: Prevention stressed, including wellness protocols such as diet, exercise and lifestyle
Natural approach including nutrition, vitamins, minerals, herbs and other options
Typical treatment uses manual adjustments to spine and/or extremities
Physiotherapy and other soft tissue techniques also utilized
Exercise and rehabilitation are prescribed to enhance function and condition prevention
Chiropractic and Medical Education
Have you ever wondered just how much education a chiropractic doctor has? The facts may very well surprise you. Today, highly specialized training is required to graduate and earn licensure. Chiropractic school is quite similar to that of medical school, especially during the first 2 years of the 4 year program.
A chiropractic program consists of 4 academic years of professional education after completion of a 4 year undergraduate degree. Chiropractic education averages a total of 4,822 hours, and ranging from 4,400 hours to 5,220 hours in the 16 colleges. This includes an average of 1,975 hours in clinical sciences and 1,405 hours of clinical clerkship. The minimum hours for accreditation by the Council on Chiropractic Education is 4,200 hours.
Chiropractic doctors are well trained to refer to other health care providers when clinically necessary. It is for this reason that a chiropractor's training includes courses such as cardiology, gastrointestinal, obstetrics, gynecology, and pathology amongst others.
Chiropractic and Medical Education:
Two questions are of paramount importance in comparing the curricula of the two professions; what subjects are taught and how much is taught? The two programs are relatively similar in total student contact hours: an average of 4,822 hours in chiropractic schools compared with 4,667 hours in medical schools (Coulter, et al, submitted).
Basic science comprises 25-30 percent of the total contact hours in both the chiropractic and medical programs (Table 1) and the two programs have roughly similar contact hours in biochemistry, microbiology, and pathology (Table 2). Chiropractors receive substantially more hours in anatomy education and physiology but many fewer in public health.

I know Mr. wisPIGGY must be in tears now. HaHaHa
Now change your toxic diaper

I can assure you that most of you critics are far less educated than any chiropractor. It takes a four year bachelors degree, preferably in biology or another science field plus a list of prerequisites to even get accepted to chiropractic school. Once there, they go through another 3.5-4 years of training, learning the nervous system in detail as well as xray analysis, more basic sciences, gross anatomy, medical examinations and manipulation techniques among many other courses. After a post high school education of 8 years they can be certified to practice. I would be very surprised if any of these critics could even pass the basic university level microbiology class. I think that it's very possible for these people to knock what they don't have the educational level to understand.

Wisdom wrote:

Go to chirotalk, the links are there.
Don't take my word for it.
And certainly, don't take a quack chiropractor's word for it.
Heck, this quack, nwtk claimed he can cure asthma and bed wetting by clicking spines.
he also said he can reduce the medication cancer patients take. Of course like all chiropractors, he received NO clinical training in any of those diseases. "Cancer", I mean really.
I don't make this stuff up. though this quack would have you believe otherwise. Even he knows just how embarrassing his "education" was.
I understand his anger, It should be directed at his quack chiropractic school, however.

This is the last place you should be posting, Wisediaper. Chiropractic for kids, or anything else that has "kids" in the title should be off limits to you. Kids don't like creeps who talk about bedwetting and diapers. No one here respects anything you say. You have NOT proven yourself to be an expert on anything. No one regards you as an expert--not even close. Just a jerk. Oh, and a loser. Now put a shirt on over your fat, sweaty belly. And quit peering out your half closed window with those binoculars, studying that yellow school bus with the shade half drawn and with the lights dimmed down. You creep.

mr. chiropractor baines, your posts are very disturbing. You can keep up your rants, I will not be reponding to such bizarre posts.

Now, mr. "to the critics". Sounds great huh? chiropractic students reading from some of same books they use in medical school. Sittting in classrooms for about the same amount of time. Of course being b and c students who attend chiropractic school as opposed to highly competitive A students who attend medical school doesn't give you pause.

Of course the fact that most chiropractic students see maybe 20 or so "patients" with neck and low back discomfort before they graduate and hang a shingle compared to the thousands of real patients medical doctors see doesn't give you pause either.

The fact that chiropractic students, such as those that graduated from the world's largest chiropratic school, were forced to sit and paticipate in cult like "money chants" doesn't give you pause.

And funny, but this critic of chiropractic is far more educated that the typical chiropractor. And indeed, I am the chiropractic expert.

Wisdom wrote:

mr. chiropractor baines, your posts are very disturbing. You can keep up your rants, I will not be reponding to such bizarre posts.
Now, mr. "to the critics". Sounds great huh? chiropractic students reading from some of same books they use in medical school. Sittting in classrooms for about the same amount of time. Of course being b and c students who attend chiropractic school as opposed to highly competitive A students who attend medical school doesn't give you pause.
Of course the fact that most chiropractic students see maybe 20 or so "patients" with neck and low back discomfort before they graduate and hang a shingle compared to the thousands of real patients medical doctors see doesn't give you pause either.
The fact that chiropractic students, such as those that graduated from the world's largest chiropratic school, were forced to sit and paticipate in cult like "money chants" doesn't give you pause.
And funny, but this critic of chiropractic is far more educated that the typical chiropractor. And indeed, I am the chiropractic expert.

Wisdiaper, the creep is still posting here--and we all know he shouldn't since kids are mentioned. This creep must stay away from kids. Anyone who has a fettish with diapers and bedwetting is a creep. And put those binoculars down and quit peering at that yellow school bus through your half open window shades. In other words, get lost creep.

I think everyone (DC's) should consider a class action civil lawsuit against chirotalk and Botnick and his buddies. I have been told that their is one in the process, but would not give me the details. Slander libel outright lies and fraud commited on that website is getting out of hand.

OH Yeah-

I think you may have your info a bit kiddywampas-

RATHER- it is Botty and his robotnicks that are the ones attempting to pursue several lawsuits. Most have been dismissed outright. Any others are just misfit bravado.

As for chiroblab.....
it is an insignificant site of a few misfits, that need a place to wack-off with other misfits. It makes them feel important.

Love the way you clowns glossed over the facts I just posted.

But thanks for reading "chirotalk, the world's finest skeptical chiropractic website.

Wisdom wrote:

Love the way you clowns glossed over the facts I just posted.
But thanks for reading "chirotalk, the world's finest skeptical chiropractic website.

Watch your kids. The Wisedump the creep is still here--and slimy as ever.