SADF vs SANDF - which way to go?

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I have for a very long time had the impression that our National Defence Force is in deep trouble. Full Story
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vasbyt

Randburg, South Africa

#1 Feb 14, 2008
Excellent article. The old SADF was one of the best in the world. The new SANDF is a bunch of AIDS-infested AA appointees that would lose to a group of girl scouts. Let's hope Lesotho never declares war on us.
vasbyt

Randburg, South Africa

#2 Feb 14, 2008
There will never be another 32 BTN of 61 Mech. The best of the best, gone but not forgotten.
Shadi

Pretoria, South Africa

#3 Mar 1, 2008
The sandf has lost quality as compared to old "sadf"the candidates that I trained yearly have no strategic focus.I always wanted to Join sadf before is changed to sandf and still I'm struggling to join.and I think I can be best trainee.
SANDF is not training new candidates for fighting enemies and peace keeping,but to become the country that has many soldiers in the world.
We can train as many soldiers as we can but it mean nothing if our soldiers are not well trained.
From Phalaborwa,Limpopo.
Gaze

Pretoria, South Africa

#4 Mar 1, 2008
To ensure that sandf has no value,should they implement a competetion in which they are trying to see the "fittest soldier" especially to new canditdates.

Special forces is still worthful.
Giyani.Limpopo.
vency manamela

Cuba

#5 Apr 17, 2008
well to tell the real true sandf cant be compered with the old sadf,sandf has lost its value ,thier main focus is no longer defending ,sadf was one of the forces in the world ,the present sandf i dont think can defend RSA ,they must rebuild it..
gordon mccormack

Bangalore, India

#6 Apr 20, 2008
we were the best fighting force in africa and probably the world all this bullshit about us losing the war in South West and Angola let the figures speak for themselves this new SANDF couldent fight their way out of a wet paper bag ask any Lesotho defence force soldier and theyll roll around laughing
so stick to the facts SADF Always ready
we went in as boys and faught like lions
alua continua
hurricane

South Africa

#7 Apr 20, 2008
The so-called SANDF,- which should be called the ADF, the Azanian Defence Force,- is not as good as the former SADF. But this is actually good news. Because, make no mistake, it is the defence force commanded and directed by a hostile regime hell-bent on killing, raping and dispossessing the whites, the Afrikaners, the Boers, the only white nation on the African continent.

Just look at Rwanda, what happened there in 1994, and you'll know what will happen here. For Tutsis, read Boers.
Buja

Pretoria, South Africa

#8 May 5, 2008
It is the end of the world as we know,Every is declining in South Africa,From the leadership to the bottom.No one can ever lay any reality than than laid by sadf.SANDF is full of hooey,how can they compromise defence?
Former member of SADF and "SANDF"
Ncedakele Mtshatsheni

El Paso, TX

#9 Aug 2, 2008
Why i am not suprised what kind of people have negatively commented about the SANDF? they know themselves which world they belong to.
The South African

South Africa

#10 Aug 15, 2008
hurricane wrote:
....it is the defence force commanded and directed by a hostile regime hell-bent on killing, raping and dispossessing the whites, the Afrikaners, the Boers, the only white nation on the African continent....
You will have yourselves to blame....Did you really think we were just going to 'forgive and forget?'....I have sympathy for a lot of people but "Die Boer verdien wat hy kry"...I think they call it having the taste of your own medicine. Not so sweet is it?
Cerberus

Southampton, UK

#11 Aug 15, 2008
The South African wrote:
<quoted text>
You will have yourselves to blame....Did you really think we were just going to 'forgive and forget?'....I have sympathy for a lot of people but "Die Boer verdien wat hy kry"...I think they call it having the taste of your own medicine. Not so sweet is it?
Who are you addressing, are you just some proponent of the new apartheid??...you know it's like the old apartheid but greatly improved by the black psychotic government.
I reckon you are a racist, plain and simple, not because you dislike the boer but simply because you obviously have a deep resentment against whites generally.
African4

South Africa

#12 Aug 15, 2008
The South African wrote:
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You will have yourselves to blame....Did you really think we were just going to 'forgive and forget?'....I have sympathy for a lot of people but "Die Boer verdien wat hy kry"...I think they call it having the taste of your own medicine. Not so sweet is it?
What are you talking about stupid boon????

Crime, genocide

What

And stupid there are more people dying in South Africa NOW than there were under apartheid.

A LOT more.

1948-1990 7,000 Murders took place and that is 167 murders per year.

Today it is 19,000 murders per year.

167 : 19,000
Cerberus

Southampton, UK

#13 Aug 15, 2008
Ncedakele Mtshatsheni wrote:
Why i am not suprised what kind of people have negatively commented about the SANDF? they know themselves which world they belong to.
It is not helpful to express your lack of surprise, why instead of criticising the commentators here do you not comment on the precarious state of the SANDF under black management. Comment on the debilitating effects of AIDS, corruption, tribalism and mental malaise...or is it not done for a black person to constructively critise another black on principle???
Of course you can just blame apartheid and the whites generally or you could actually demonstrate some insights and apportion blame where it is deserved...
melkpie

South Africa

#14 Aug 15, 2008
Cerberus wrote:
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It is not helpful to express your lack of surprise, why instead of criticising the commentators here do you not comment on the precarious state of the SANDF under black management. Comment on the debilitating effects of AIDS, corruption, tribalism and mental malaise...or is it not done for a black person to constructively critise another black on principle???
Of course you can just blame apartheid and the whites generally or you could actually demonstrate some insights and apportion blame where it is deserved...
Nice!
Fiber wa Ga Mphahlele

South Africa

#15 Oct 24, 2008
I have been in the SANDF for the past 18 years, even before i join most of my Neigbours were SADF soldiers and I met lot of National Serviceman during those days and i still have to meet somebody to convince me that SADF was the Best. Only those who were used to the cruelty, those who have no other option to survive will sy the conditions were good and it was the best Defence Force. I am ashamed to say i was part of that Defence Force.
Ncedakele Mtshatsheni

El Paso, TX

#16 Nov 13, 2008
Again the same suspects who will never ever in their lives see good in anything classified black because they have lost benefits by virtue of their colour in the old regime, does that make me surprised? a big no, i don't have to be helpful to people who do not need help, SADF will never come back, not in South Africa.
dirkltjie

Cape Town, South Africa

#17 Nov 13, 2008
Ncedakele Mtshatsheni wrote:
Again the same suspects who will never ever in their lives see good in anything classified black because they have lost benefits by virtue of their colour in the old regime, does that make me surprised? a big no, i don't have to be helpful to people who do not need help, SADF will never come back, not in South Africa.
Nobody (at least most reasonable people) wants the old SADF back, all citizens of this country merely want, is the quality defense force they are paying for.

Now if this is racist, then sorry....you have the problem, not the whities writing here.
Tony A

Johannesburg, South Africa

#18 Nov 14, 2008
dirkltjie wrote:
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Nobody (at least most reasonable people) wants the old SADF back, all citizens of this country merely want, is the quality defense force they are paying for.
Now if this is racist, then sorry....you have the problem, not the whities writing here.
Where have you been Melktert?
Ncedakele Mtshatsheni

El Paso, TX

#19 Nov 14, 2008
Maybe Hurricane is pink, well if he is not white and is pink i don't know of any pink former SADF members, its obvious that he wouldn't sound racist to you (Dirktjie), well again the same reasonably suspects, ja sure you're right, chasing blacks in the townships is what is known as quality and killing people in Boipatong is your twisted quality and letting those despicable mercenaries and killers from Angola, Mozambique, and Zimbabwe to do your dirty work was what made SADF the so called best, well i think the SANDF is doing well despite budget constraint from ignorant politicians and is participating well on the international arena as opposed to monsters whose task was aggression, invasion, and killing innocent civilians from our neighbouring countries, they are all living in peace except Zimbabwe which is led by a black P.W. Botha, since the death of SADF and as I understand, white officers from the old not so mighty SADF were in charge of the Lesotho operation.

Since: Sep 08

South Africa

#20 Nov 15, 2008
Tony A wrote:
<quoted text>Where have you been Melktert?
Not me lol. I would love the SADF back to kick some kaffir arse and get this country shipshape again.

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