Chinese premier pledges funds, aid to Africa

[tula msindo]

http://www.thezimbabwean.co.uk/2009111126533/...

Wednesday, 11 November 2009 15:59
HARARE - War veterans occupying former-Forester Estates in Mvurwi have lambasted President Robert Mugabe and his Zanu (PF) party for using the controversial land reform programme as a political campaign tool.(Pictured: Disappointed war vets are starting to speak out against the failure of the land reform programmeme)
The war veterans, who spoke to ***The Zimbabwean, said Mugabe had treated the land reform programme as a purely political issue that has destroyed the economy instead of taking the land reform as an economic empowerment and a developmental programmeme.
"I think Mugabe got it all wrong by politicizing this ill-advised land reform programme. When we came on this farm in 2000 I thought that there was a clear land policy in respect of the new farmers, our leaders just spearheaded the invasions without any future plans laid down and that is why this whole process has failed.
"President Mugabe chose to trade this land with votes to the unsuspecting masses under the disguise of empowering them while he knew it was to his personal benefit and a few other party officials.
"Had this land programme been done with a genuine concern, it could have been a real success because it could have attracted support from the international community," said a Mvurwi-based war veteran identified as Kufa Kuda.
Zanu (PF)’s poor planning
Another angry war veteran at the same farm attributed the economic and humanitarian crisis that has characterized Zimbabwe for the past decade to poor planning on the part of the Zanu (PF) government.
"We have had a situation where our government and cabinet were occupied by economic and political criminals. Innocent civilians suffered the most from the effects of a corrupt and unjust system being led by ruthless and selfish leaders.
"Had the government managed to pay us reasonable rates on our produce over the years we have been on this land, most of us could now be self-sustained and producing enough for this nation.
"I have often wondered how this US$300 million that this country is said to be owing China was acquired and how it was used as well, if the state still fails to pay farmers for their maize," said another newly resettled war-veteran.

Other resettled farmers near Mvurwi also castigated Zanu (PF) for the continued victimization of MDC supporters in newly resettled areas where they are being ordered to vacate the farms because of their patronage to MDC.
The former Zanu (PF) government led by Mugabe has been widely criticized for corruption and politicizing developmental programmes alongside human rights abuses and lack of the rule of law.

[Orieduka]

tula msindo wrote:

<quoted text> TYPICAL you have not been voted in but self elected yourself to speak for us i say no to china

You're a blood thirsty Westerner, your "i say no to china" only goes into your pocket or back into your stomach . It's totally meaningless as you can neither be an African nor a Chinese in your life . If I may ask you, who elected HER ROYAL MAJESTY?. Say the truth, were you born when she became QUEEN OF ENGLAND in the middle of the 20th century?. Most of you from the United Kingdom have no shame at all, your history is the dirtiest one and you don't care to provoke arguments relating to it . You're simply a shameless people .

[tula msindo]

Orieduka wrote:

<quoted text>You're a blood thirsty Westerner, your "i say no to china" only goes into your pocket or back into your stomach . It's totally meaningless as you can neither be an African nor a Chinese in your life . If I may ask you, who elected HER ROYAL MAJESTY?. Say the truth, were you born when she became QUEEN OF ENGLAND in the middle of the 20th century?. Most of you from the United Kingdom have no shame at all, your history is the dirtiest one and you don't care to provoke arguments relating to it . You're simply a shameless people .

the typical ranting and ravings of a madman we are talking about africa and you jump to uk , stick to the topic at hand , try not to lead the attention elseware

[Orieduka]

tula msindo wrote:

<quoted text> the typical ranting and ravings of a madman we are talking about africa and you jump to uk , stick to the topic at hand , try not to lead the attention elseware

This is exactly what you should tell yourself, we were talking about Chinese-African relationship and all of a sudden you jumped to who elected who into govt . Then when you were asked question relating to your comment, all you do is start name calling, are you not a fool?. Please go back to the comment you made which I answered, you will then see your stupidity .

[at home in sunny old zim]

hey orieduka... if the west was as bloodthirsty and greedy as you say, they would've gotten rid of ALL of you stupid kaffirs a long time ago. Arent you glad us "pinks" are bigger than that and showed you monkeys a bit of mercy. bad idea in hindsight but there you go. oh and why are you shouting your mouth off in spain? why not come join in the third chimurenga here in zim? are you even zimbabwean? why are you not here? mr. mugabes disastrous policies forced you to find work elsewhere?
i gotta say though, im quite glad the chinese are here... not cos they want to rape and pillage and seal my beautiful country's doom (they cant really be blamed for that being the shameless capitalists they are and mugabe brought them here in exchange for a little something in his begging bowl) but because i have a thing for asian chicks. shit bring them on!

[superdelegate]

Orieduka wrote:

<quoted text>We don't want that of the Arabs, we want China's . That's our decision and that's final .

oh,i get it,arabs don't like even black muslims,look what's happening in darfur?!

[Orieduka]

at home in sunny old zim wrote:

hey orieduka... if the west was as bloodthirsty and greedy as you say, they would've gotten rid of ALL of you stupid kaffirs a long time ago. Arent you glad us "pinks" are bigger than that and showed you monkeys a bit of mercy. bad idea in hindsight but there you go. oh and why are you shouting your mouth off in spain? why not come join in the third chimurenga here in zim? are you even zimbabwean? why are you not here? mr. mugabes disastrous policies forced you to find work elsewhere?
i gotta say though, im quite glad the chinese are here... not cos they want to rape and pillage and seal my beautiful country's doom (they cant really be blamed for that being the shameless capitalists they are and mugabe brought them here in exchange for a little something in his begging bowl) but because i have a thing for asian chicks. shit bring them on!

You sounds like a confused pink ape, right?. I have no obligation to explain my mission here in the West to you pink fool . I have the right to live any where I like in the world and defend my country from there .

[De Minimus]

China is still, by certain standards, considered a poor country. Makes one wonder what the agenda is?Mmm...

[Orieduka]

De Minimus wrote:

China is still, by certain standards, considered a poor country. Makes one wonder what the agenda is?Mmm...

China is the world's 3rd largest economy and the fastest growing one, isn't it . Well that's the "agenda" . You can continue to consider it "a poor country" . Who cares?.

[De Minimus]

Orieduka wrote:

<quoted text>China is the world's 3rd largest economy and the fastest growing one, isn't it . Well that's the "agenda" . You can continue to consider it "a poor country" . Who cares?.

Calm down son. Its only fact and not a personal dig. Eish..

[Orieduka]

De Minimus wrote:

<quoted text>
Calm down son. Its only fact and not a personal dig. Eish..

Nothing personal here, we're on the world stage . Political issues should not be made a person marathon or attack . It's a collective resposibility, discoused, argued and or resolved by mature minds .

[De Minimus]

Orieduka wrote:

<quoted text>Nothing personal here, we're on the world stage . Political issues should not be made a person marathon or attack . It's a collective resposibility, discoused, argued and or resolved by mature minds .

Glad you agree with me....

[Orieduka]

De Minimus wrote:

<quoted text>
Glad you agree with me....

I'm always on the part of the truth, no matter who's concerned .

[Wong]

TASKMASTER wrote:

Yes Of Course..chinks are pouring all over Africia...ITS THE OIL STUPID!..They could care less about poor Africans,or the deplorable conditions there....Its BLACK GOLD they seek not BLACK HUMANITY efforts!!

Wrong, Chinese love Black people! China will build new homes for Africa people displaced by new China pipeline. Also will get free Chinese TV and computer for kids!

[smallville]

A balanced attitude is always necessary. Just keep remember, black people should use every measure to maximize black peopole's interest. Use China to counterbalance west and use west to counterbalance China is the best way.

[Wong]

smallville wrote:

A balanced attitude is always necessary. Just keep remember, black people should use every measure to maximize black peopole's interest. Use China to counterbalance west and use west to counterbalance China is the best way.

Chinese will put much money into Africa and help Africans many ways! Many resources in Africa can help Chinese manufacturing industry too.