Whites ARE Europeans

[Mixed Zimbabwean]

Why do Zimbabwean and South African whites keep insisting they are African when the Indians embrace their Indian heritage with pride.

If they can do why do so many whites deny their European heritage and identity it is like they are ashamed they even get offended if they are called European. WHY?

[Mixed Zimbabwean]

Free Occupied Rhodesia wrote:

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It's like being African American...or Italian American, or German Amercian...
Your Horizons are not broad enough...or you would know that there ARE WHITE AFRICANS...
Maybe you are ashamed of who you are...but then being a Zimbo is pretty humilating isn't it?
BE A
MAN
Among Men
RHODESIAN ARMY

What are you doing here you pathectic Yank I am not ashamed of who I am at all.

Do you honestly think any blacks on this forum see whites as African I know here in the UK not a single black African considers whites as African so hush up.

You white Americans are so damn arrogant just becuase you see whites as Africans it does not mean blacks will and what's more they dont have to. To blacks whites will always be EUROPEANS in Africa and it is not your place to say otherwise.

[Barn2503]

Mixed Zimbabwean wrote:

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What are you doing here you pathectic Yank I am not ashamed of who I am at all.
Do you honestly think any blacks on this forum see whites as African I know here in the UK not a single black African considers whites as African so hush up.
You white Americans are so damn arrogant just becuase you see whites as Africans it does not mean blacks will and what's more they dont have to. To blacks whites will always be EUROPEANS in Africa and it is not your place to say otherwise.

You call yourself mixed Zimbabwean? In what way are you mixed? Perhaps you mean you are a mixed up zimbabwean!!!

[Orieduka]

Mixed Zimbabwean wrote:

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What are you doing here you pathectic Yank I am not ashamed of who I am at all.
Do you honestly think any blacks on this forum see whites as African I know here in the UK not a single black African considers whites as African so hush up.
You white Americans are so damn arrogant just becuase you see whites as Africans it does not mean blacks will and what's more they dont have to. To blacks whites will always be EUROPEANS in Africa and it is not your place to say otherwise.

The two people who're talking with you, one called Barn23.., the other called Rhodesia are the most mentally retarded persons in this forum . They're the most agressive, insultive and ill-educated pink holigans on the web . So it would be a waste of your precious time talking with them, they have absolutely nothing sensible to offer you . Better avoid them and look for guys who can argue constructively, objectively and without much racial insults .

[Barn2503]

Orieduka wrote:

<quoted text>The two people who're talking with you, one called Barn23.., the other called Rhodesia are the most mentally retarded persons in this forum . They're the most agressive, insultive and ill-educated pink holigans on the web . So it would be a waste of your precious time talking with them, they have absolutely nothing sensible to offer you . Better avoid them and look for guys who can argue constructively, objectively and without much racial insults .

Orieduka what you really mean is, "dont talk to Barn2503 or that Rhodesian guy because they are'nt "push over" idiots that will accept our mischeveous racist propaganda rants on this forum, be careful of these two because they bite harder than they bark"!

[Mixed Zimbabwean]

Barn2503 wrote:

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You call yourself mixed Zimbabwean? In what way are you mixed? Perhaps you mean you are a mixed up zimbabwean!!!

I wasnt talking to you, there is no way I would call the Boers African after what they did to the coloureds of South Africa.

I am about 60% African blood and 40% european so although I of mixed heritage I am more African than European by blood, I am very proud of my African blood and heritage.

I am NOT mixed up in the head OK.

[Mixed Zimbabwean]

Free Occupied Rhodesia wrote:

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Well you don't have anything to be proud of...sorry for you.
Your obviously NO Obama...or Oprah she's richer than your Queen of England!
Be A
MAN
Among
Men
RHODESIAN ARMY

What do you mean by that, what dont I have to be proud of of my family was able to come here because dispite being mixed we do also have British roots too, I have British ancestry as well as indigenous African. I much prefer the UK to the US. My parents are very grateful to the UK.

[Barn2503]

Mixed Zimbabwean wrote:

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I wasnt talking to you, there is no way I would call the Boers African after what they did to the coloureds of South Africa.
I am about 60% African blood and 40% european so although I of mixed heritage I am more African than European by blood, I am very proud of my African blood and heritage.
I am NOT mixed up in the head OK.

Sorry for insulting you...my appologies.
By what unit of measure or what method do you use to come to the conclusion you are 60% african and 40% european?

[Barn2503]

Mixed Zimbabwean wrote:

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I much prefer the UK to the US. My parents are very grateful to the UK.

That is good to know, but the question I want to know is, "are you grateful"?

[Mixed Zimbabwean]

Barn2503 wrote:

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That is good to know, but the question I want to know is, "are you grateful"?

Yes I am, becuase I dislike the current regime in Zimbabwe I dont like Mugabe and I condemn what he done to Zimbabwe utterly however I condemn the old apartheid regime of South Africa too becuase as a so called 'coloured'(which in South Africa means mixed race) I would have been a second class citizen with limited rights and opportunities you see those damn cursed EUROPEAN Boers also considered 'coloureds as inferior beings who should be treated differently which is why they rejected,oppressed and DEHUMANIZED the mixed South Africans and saw nothing wrong in doing so which is why I call them European simply to annoy them.

I think the Boers SUCK.

[Mixed Zimbabwean]

Oh may I add what the Boers did to the pure blooded black Africans was dispicable I just hope every black refuse to accept them as African.

[barn2503]

Mixed Zimbabwean wrote:

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Yes I am, becuase I dislike the current regime in Zimbabwe I dont like Mugabe and I condemn what he done to Zimbabwe utterly however I condemn the old apartheid regime of South Africa too becuase as a so called 'coloured'(which in South Africa means mixed race) I would have been a second class citizen with limited rights and opportunities you see those damn cursed EUROPEAN Boers also considered 'coloureds as inferior beings who should be treated differently which is why they rejected,oppressed and DEHUMANIZED the mixed South Africans and saw nothing wrong in doing so which is why I call them European simply to annoy them.
I think the Boers SUCK.

So it is only because you dislike the current regime in Zimbabwe that you are grateful to Great Britain!!!!
Now lets return back to an earlier question I asked you and that was, "by what unit of measure or by what method have you concluded you are 60% African and 40% European"????
If you were 60% African that would make you 3/5th's black and 2/5ths white. This is very puzzling considering all humans derive from 4 immediate descendants and not 5 as you are trying to claim...So unless you are the product of either your mother or your grandmother having being gang raped by at least 2 men then unfortunately I can only conclude you are talking falsehoods.

Now lets get onto the subject about your understanding of the treatment of the Cape Coloureds to whom you keep referring too by the Boers.
First of all you said they are called coloured, which in South Africa means they are mixed. I am afraid I have to correct you here the coloureds you refer to are not mixed race they are in fact a hybrid race!!! That is to say the South African coloured is a product of a half cast mother and a half cast father. Someone who is considered mixed has a black father and white mother or vice versa.

Do you see where your argument is fundamentally flawed and wrong?

[Mixed Zimbabwean]

barn2503 wrote:

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So it is only because you dislike the current regime in Zimbabwe that you are grateful to Great Britain!!!!
Now lets return back to an earlier question I asked you and that was, "by what unit of measure or by what method have you concluded you are 60% African and 40% European"????
If you were 60% African that would make you 3/5th's black and 2/5ths white. This is very puzzling considering all humans derive from 4 immediate descendants and not 5 as you are trying to claim...So unless you are the product of either your mother or your grandmother having being gang raped by at least 2 men then unfortunately I can only conclude you are talking falsehoods.
Now lets get onto the subject about your understanding of the treatment of the Cape Coloureds to whom you keep referring too by the Boers.
First of all you said they are called coloured, which in South Africa means they are mixed. I am afraid I have to correct you here the coloureds you refer to are not mixed race they are in fact a hybrid race!!! That is to say the South African coloured is a product of a half cast mother and a half cast father. Someone who is considered mixed has a black father and white mother or vice versa.
Do you see where your argument is fundamentally flawed and wrong?

No of couse not my family left Zimbabwe when it was still Rhodesia.

Being mixed does not just mean being of mixed parentage it can also mean being of mixed ancestry meaning you can even be black but with WHITE blood in your family tree, this is what S Africans Coloureds are. Coloureds are of mixed ancestry.

And no member of my family ws gang raped and I was talking percentages in terms of genes and DNA. Another thing I was giving a 'rough' estimation of my bloodline.

Your right about one thing though coloureds are a hybrid race.

[Ebony]

Mixed Zimbabwean wrote:

Why do Zimbabwean and South African whites keep insisting they are African when the Indians embrace their Indian heritage with pride.
If they can do why do so many whites deny their European heritage and identity it is like they are ashamed they even get offended if they are called European. WHY?

I agree wholeheartly, however I think sandra Laing the the women born to white Afrikaner parents should be included as a daughter of Africa the reason she classsifed 'coloured' at the age of ten expelled from her school and rejected and shunned by the wider Afrikaner community becuase of her frizzy hair and dark skin even while she was at the school certain kids tormented her before her eventual expulsion becuase of what she endured and suffered I think she should be included as African in spite of being born to white Afrikaners.

Sandra Laing is also married to a black man and has children with him.

[Mixed Zimbabwean]

Ebony wrote:

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I agree wholeheartly, however I think sandra Laing the the women born to white Afrikaner parents should be included as a daughter of Africa the reason she classsifed 'coloured' at the age of ten expelled from her school and rejected and shunned by the wider Afrikaner community becuase of her frizzy hair and dark skin even while she was at the school certain kids tormented her before her eventual expulsion becuase of what she endured and suffered I think she should be included as African in spite of being born to white Afrikaners.
Sandra Laing is also married to a black man and has children with him.

I agree to me she is also an African and i know how those reptiles shunned her becuase of her appearance I know about what she went through Ebony if you can see the film skin which is about Sandra laings life.

[Barn2503]

Yes I agree also!!
When I was at high school there was this one white kid called Brett. Brett used to be really fat so we knick named him slug (because he was so slow...get it).
Now Brett used to also have really curly hair and sometimes the guys in his class used to tease him about being a gofo. Now I think Brett is also an African because of what all the reptiles used to say to him. What you guys think??

[Barn2503]

Mixed Zimbabwean wrote:

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No of couse not my family left Zimbabwe when it was still Rhodesia.

You say your family left Zimbabwe when it was still Rhodesia..."Did they come to the UK then" or did they move to South Africa first"?
Where were you born?

[Mixed Zimbabwean]

Barn2503 wrote:

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You say your family left Zimbabwe when it was still Rhodesia..."Did they come to the UK then" or did they move to South Africa first"?
Where were you born?

I am Zimbabwean born but then left and moved to the UK my family refused to settle in south Africa becuase of apartheid I have been here since I was little so I am in fact a British citizen.

[Barn2503]

Mixed Zimbabwean wrote:

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I am Zimbabwean born but then left and moved to the UK my family refused to settle in south Africa becuase of apartheid I have been here since I was little so I am in fact a British citizen.

So you must be aware that the South African coloured's...a hybrid race of mixed DNA...is a result of White Boer and Black Hottentots mixing together.
Its interesting for you to talk about the injustice of the coloured's in Southern Africa at the hands of the white man but not at the hands of the black man?

My best friend in Zimbabwe whom I went to Junior School all the way to Senior School and whom I am in touch with to this day will tell you that he was accepted more by the whites than the blacks?
Further more you have very strong views about the prejudice of South African coloureds by the apartheid system but you have no first hand experience of this!!!

Maybe the very person or persons who could not accept the "New Black Zimbabwe" and fled to the UK at the beginning of Zimbabwean independence, have indoctrinated you into believing this is true??
Would you agree with me that by formulating such a strong and biased opinion based purely on hearsay and none on personal experience will only be a limiting factor on you life?
If you are so naïve to confine yourself to live in the paradigm of victim and poverty consciousness, how can you expect this to manifest positively in your life?

[Mixed Zimbabwean]

Barn2503 wrote:

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So you must be aware that the South African coloured's...a hybrid race of mixed DNA...is a result of White Boer and Black Hottentots mixing together.
Its interesting for you to talk about the injustice of the coloured's in Southern Africa at the hands of the white man but not at the hands of the black man?
My best friend in Zimbabwe whom I went to Junior School all the way to Senior School and whom I am in touch with to this day will tell you that he was accepted more by the whites than the blacks?
Further more you have very strong views about the prejudice of South African coloureds by the apartheid system but you have no first hand experience of this!!!
Maybe the very person or persons who could not accept the "New Black Zimbabwe" and fled to the UK at the beginning of Zimbabwean independence, have indoctrinated you into believing this is true??
Would you agree with me that by formulating such a strong and biased opinion based purely on hearsay and none on personal experience will only be a limiting factor on you life?
If you are so naïve to confine yourself to live in the paradigm of victim and poverty consciousness, how can you expect this to manifest positively in your life?

First of all I did not blame all the whites JUST the Boers cant you read and I was talking about ONE country south Africa NOT the whole of southern Africa, where did I atack the English speaking white South Africans or white Zimbabweans I have not badmouthed them once so please read my posts properly.

Another thing the REAL AFRICANS did not oppress or subjugate South African Coloureds in such a horrible manner the Boers did even though the coloureds and Boers had a lot in common all. Their is nothing biased about wrote I have wrote in previous posts.

You say I have no personal experience but had I lived in South Africa during apartheid I WOULD have been treated as a second class citizen with very limited rights,freedoms and opportunities at least in Zimbabwe the whites there treated the coloureds with more respect unlike the Boers, who did not seem to regard the S African coloureds as human beings but as racially inferior mixed bloods who should be treated differenly it's because of this attitude why they saw nothing wrong in dehumanizing coloureds and stripping coloureds in South africa of their dignity, it's also the reason the Beors were also indifferent to their suffering.