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viet nam tu do

United States

#1 Feb 5, 2008
toi la mot nguoi viet qua My rat tre, toi chi song o my moi vao nam thoi, chinh vi the ma giao duc o viet nam toi biet rat ro

giao duc o viet nam da di theo mot huong sai lam, nhoi dau nhoi so hoc sinh qua nhieu, toan hoc ly thuyet
Khong Tu

Hanoi, Vietnam

#3 Feb 5, 2008
viet nam tu do wrote:
toi la mot nguoi viet qua My rat tre, toi chi song o my moi vao nam thoi, chinh vi the ma giao duc o viet nam toi biet rat ro
giao duc o viet nam da di theo mot huong sai lam, nhoi dau nhoi so hoc sinh qua nhieu, toan hoc ly thuyet
-dao.= u.
-du?c'= tu

tu than te gia tri quoc binh thien ha.

each word is a logic statement

how many word do U practice already ?
Yell peril

Hanworth, UK

#4 Feb 6, 2008
viet nam tu do wrote:
toi la mot nguoi viet qua My rat tre, toi chi song o my moi vao nam thoi, chinh vi the ma giao duc o viet nam toi biet rat ro
giao duc o viet nam da di theo mot huong sai lam, nhoi dau nhoi so hoc sinh qua nhieu, toan hoc ly thuyet
Wonderful!! You can tell all that living in the state.
Tim Hieu

Alexandria, VA

#6 Apr 3, 2008
viet nam tu do wrote:
toi la mot nguoi viet qua My rat tre, toi chi song o my moi vao nam thoi, chinh vi the ma giao duc o viet nam toi biet rat ro
giao duc o viet nam da di theo mot huong sai lam, nhoi dau nhoi so hoc sinh qua nhieu, toan hoc ly thuyet
Duoc biet la hoc sinh o VN khong phai dong hoc phi, nhu vay co phai mot trong nhung ly do cua nhung kho khan ma anh neu len khong?

Since: May 07

Milpitas, CA

#8 Apr 3, 2008
Under previous gloriful South we did not pay from elementary to public universities. The smart and poor could get some stipends.
Under Socialist liars, people have to pay from K to Universities.
And education is sh!t. Sh!tty teachers (most from VCs background), sh!tty facilities (VCs steal for their own but did not spend), sh!tty doctrine (Ho and Mao said being red is better than being good in skills), sh!tty goals (train followers who would luv commies and farking socialism), sh!tty structure ... want to here more? Go there and sit in a class.
Once I passed through an elementary during break. Gosh..the noise was hurting my ears..they all were detained in tiny playground..hundreds of yelling mouth!
Tim Hieu wrote:
<quoted text>
Duoc biet la hoc sinh o VN khong phai dong hoc phi, nhu vay co phai mot trong nhung ly do cua nhung kho khan ma anh neu len khong?
tito

Ventura, CA

#9 Apr 3, 2008
Tim Hieu wrote:
<quoted text>
Duoc biet la hoc sinh o VN khong phai dong hoc phi, nhu vay co phai mot trong nhung ly do cua nhung kho khan ma anh neu len khong?
No:
Hoc sinh o VN PHAI dong hoc phi. All levels.
It is no free.
how sad !
Pho Thuong Dan

Sterling, VA

#10 Apr 3, 2008
tito wrote:
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No:
Hoc sinh o VN PHAI dong hoc phi. All levels.
It is no free.
how sad !
What I know is a lot of poor people cannot afford to pay the fee for elementary school.
This is why we see children on the street to sell lottery tickets.
Nobody cares.

On the other hand, people with better income send their kids to all kind of schools.
You need a lot of money to send your kids to school.
It's truly "nhan dan lam chu, nha nuoc quan ly".

Since: May 07

Milpitas, CA

#11 Apr 3, 2008
In VN the poor have to pay more tax the super rich and VCs.
Taxes imposed on imported goods and on food. Many vnese are houseless, the rich and VCs live in mansions and own many acres of land. But basically there are no property tax.
That is so oppressive and anti-the-poor taxing system in VN and education fund is negligible.
Pho Thuong Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
What I know is a lot of poor people cannot afford to pay the fee for elementary school.
This is why we see children on the street to sell lottery tickets.
Nobody cares.
On the other hand, people with better income send their kids to all kind of schools.
You need a lot of money to send your kids to school.
It's truly "nhan dan lam chu, nha nuoc quan ly".
Truth Lover

Madison, AL

#12 Apr 3, 2008
Tim Hieu wrote:
<quoted text>
Duoc biet la hoc sinh o VN khong phai dong hoc phi, nhu vay co phai mot trong nhung ly do cua nhung kho khan ma anh neu len khong?
You make people around the World laugh, and people inside Vietnam MAD! No school fees in Vietnam? Please read more news/books!
Phiengung

Canberra, Australia

#13 Apr 3, 2008
Tim Hieu wrote:
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Duoc biet la hoc sinh o VN khong phai dong hoc phi, nhu vay co phai mot trong nhung ly do cua nhung kho khan ma anh neu len khong?
Hi Tim Hieu,

Day la mot cau hoi can duoc tra loi chinh xac. Vi khi hieu duoc thuc trang chinh sanh giao duc, y te va lao dong o Viet nam, Viet kieu moi hieu duoc ban chat doi tra, mi dan cua che do viet cong. The leopard never loses its spots.

Truoc thoi doi moi, giao duc va y te o vietnam hoan toan mien phi. Tren nguyen tac, nha nuoc co nhiem vu tao va cung cap cong an viec lam cho moi cong dan den tuoi lao dong. Cac cau khau hieu nhu: "Lao dong la vinh quang, lang thang thi chet doi, hay noi thi o tu" xuat phat tu thoi diem nay. Nhung,

Thuc te thi tinh trang giao duc o Vietnam duoi che do viet cong rat toi te. Khong noi den noi dung giang day mang nang tinh dau tranh giai cap, phuong tien giang day rat yeu kem vi nen kinh te qua lun bai khong du kha nang cung cap cho mot nen giao duc huu ich. "Cai kho bo cai khon" ma li!

Nganh y te va lao dong cung khong kha hon, nhung se noi ve nhung chuyen do sau.

Sau thoi doi moi, khi viet cong chay theo kinh te thi truong, viet cong bat chuoc cai hay cua kinh te thi truong va cai do cua che do tu ban nua. Day la dai tham hoa cho nganh giao duc o Viet nam. Thay vi bat chuoc cac he thong giao duc tien bo o Bac Au, Uc... viet cong, voi nhung dinh cao tri tue, da khong cung ung noi nhu cau giao duc trong nuoc, da cho thiet lap cac truong tu thuc va nhu the, tao ra mot he thong giao duc bat binh dang, co nghia la, nhung hoc sinh con ong chau cha, co nghia la co tien va vi the co du phuong tien de duoc day kem them, mot dang thi duoc uu tien vao cac truong cong, neu khong thi cho vao cac truong tu thuc noi tieng. Quang dai da so hoc sinh ngheo, va vi ngheo nen hoc kem, phai theo hoc cac truong tu thuc kem va rot cuoc pham lam toi moi cho bon tu ban moi

Tim hieu, co doc nhung dong chu nay, bo qua nhung loi che bai viet cong, nhung chi tiet khac la thuc trang cua nganh giao duc hien tai cua viet cong
tito

Ventura, CA

#14 Apr 3, 2008
Phiengung wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Tim Hieu,
toi chi muon dinh nghia cho ro la.
truong cong hay truong tu tat tat ca deu phai dong hoc phi.
Phiengung

Canberra, Australia

#15 Apr 3, 2008
Tim Hieu wrote:
<quoted text>
Duoc biet la hoc sinh o VN khong phai dong hoc phi, nhu vay co phai mot trong nhung ly do cua nhung kho khan ma anh neu len khong?
Xin noi them de Tim Hieu khoi hieu lam.

Tinh trang giao duc o Viet nam hien thoi co nhieu diem kha hon so voi thoi chua doi moi. Do la noi dung giang day khong con mang nang tinh giai cap nua, vi kinh te trong nuoc kha hon nen co so giao duc cung day du hon so voi thoi chua doi moi. Tuy nhien noi chung thi con rat yeu kem so voi nhung nuoc trong vung.

Nhung diem xau trong nganh giao duc hien tai dang lam nhieu nguoi Viet nam co quan tam den tien do dan toc lo ngai la tinh trang tham nhung. Thoi truoc, nan mua bang tu tai cung co nhung khong quy mo nhu bay gio. Nan hoi lo de duoc vao cac truong cong lap cung co nhung khong te hai nhu bay gio. Hien tai, moi lo lon nhat la su suy doi luan ly va dao duc cua gioi giao chuc duoi che do viet cong. Day la mot tham nan chung cho dan toc vi su suy doi dao duc va luan ly cua xa hoi Viet nam duoi su cai tri cua viet cong.

Tinh trang "day cua" thoi VNCH cung co, nhung te nan day kem bay gio da lan tran khap noi den noi bay gio, ca nuoc thi dua di hoc kem voi phi ton rat cao so voi dong luong chet doi. The nguoi lao dong ngheo o Viet nam thi sao? Con cai cua ho thi sao? Co le suot doi phai lam toi moi cho bon tu ban moi.
To mo

Hyattsville, MD

#16 Apr 4, 2008
This is an interesting discussion. Most of the postings indicated that students at all levels have to pay a lot of fees for a worthless education. Just wonder whether anyone could help out with a list of fees a primary and secondary student has to pay to the school, excluding gifts given to teachers and shool officials, to attend. Appreciate it.

Since: May 07

Milpitas, CA

#17 Apr 4, 2008
I don't know for sure but:
All K schools are private and the cost for low class is around 300K HoToiletSheets not counting food
Public elementary at cities I think 60K HoToiletSheets
(those in the deep into the jungle or high upto the mountain I think it is free)
High school? I think 100K HoToiletSheets a month
(in those provinces I think around 40K)
I will ask my fiancee to clarify these fees.
(the private HiSchool in Saigon normally cost 1,5 millions of HoToiletSheets.

One good thing is they did raise the teacher salary from 300k HoToiletSheets 10-20 years ago to 2M HoToiletSheets recently.

The farking problem of VC's education is this analogy:
VCs built a road, the workers/builders do a farking poor job..(reasons: bribery from VCc, greed for contractors/builders, dissatisfied workers)
So they have to rebuild the road after 5 years..and again and again...
For education the morning teaching sucks...
So 5 hours later the student attends another sucking costly teaching...
Another 5 hours a tutor come to the house...
That is the way of VCs... no more comments for the quality of what monkeys VCs think and do!
To mo wrote:
This is an interesting discussion. Most of the postings indicated that students at all levels have to pay a lot of fees for a worthless education. Just wonder whether anyone could help out with a list of fees a primary and secondary student has to pay to the school, excluding gifts given to teachers and shool officials, to attend. Appreciate it.
hanoi

United States

#18 Apr 5, 2008
giao duc o vn duoi che do cong san da sai lam 60 nam nay , chu khong phai gi moi day, ly do rat don gian.
vc khong co bang dai hoc, la thich di chom chia .
Osama run naked

Eugene, OR

#19 Apr 5, 2008
Khong Tu wrote:
<quoted text>
-dao.= u.
-du?c'= tu
tu than te gia tri quoc binh thien ha.
each word is a logic statement
how many word do U practice already ?
khong tu - no imprisonment. You accept commies terms and turn head away from injustice of commies..no wonder they leave you alone. Khong tu - no imprisonment.
HCM number ONE

Las Vegas, NV

#20 Apr 5, 2008
in impoverishing vn.
Mario

Las Vegas, NV

#21 Apr 5, 2008
is me, who was born in GrowAss but could speak/write in Vnese and write in English. Just as comrade allen, NVN777, Ryan Boston I was given a task of spying/fighting against vnese who loves democracy on these webs.
I need to lie so VCs can give me money to live happily wherever I go!
To mo

Hyattsville, MD

#22 Apr 5, 2008
The assumption is that money can buy a good education. Since only people with "better income" can afford to send ther kids to school, it would be interesting to determine who belongs to this income group, who is in position to move to it, and what are the obstacles preventing aspired people to move to this group from achieving it.
Pho Thuong Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
What I know is a lot of poor people cannot afford to pay the fee for elementary school.
This is why we see children on the street to sell lottery tickets.
Nobody cares.
On the other hand, people with better income send their kids to all kind of schools.
You need a lot of money to send your kids to school.
It's truly "nhan dan lam chu, nha nuoc quan ly".
Pest Control

United States

#23 Apr 5, 2008
To mo wrote:
The assumption is that money can buy a good education. Since only people with "better income" can afford to send ther kids to school, it would be interesting to determine who belongs to this income group, who is in position to move to it, and what are the obstacles preventing aspired people to move to this group from achieving it.
<quoted text>
Right logic, wrong applying !

Vietnam with VCs is the place of "dark matters", where most of your logics will become flawless...

Check out these young school girls, they must belong the top class in the society



Don't know why? it's because their parents are rich but clearly they ain't the good ones

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