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mick rock

UK

#296 Nov 21, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
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What terrorist allegiences?
You lot couldn't even govern Northern Ireland properly, for decades you discriminated against the Catholics and ended up causing a war. Then left the British Government and British Army to pick up the pieces.
You have yet to condemn the Loyalist slaughter of 33 civilians (women, kids, unborn babies etc) on one day in 1974.
I'm the one who should be sickened. As should anyone with any sort of morals.....
You lot,who is you lot, you offensive moron,your flag speaks volumes and so do your posts. morals you joker !
rio

Beckenham, UK

#297 Nov 21, 2012
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>How about the army in Ulster fire rockets into the south willy nilly and don't care where they land,i suppose you would find that exceptable then?
To fire at an enemy, you must have a conflict going.

There is no conflict between Ulster and the Irish Republic, so an unprovoked attack would be outrageous.

There is a state of war between Israel and the Palestinians since 1948, and the recent exchange just constitues another episode of that conflict. Gaza didn't start firing rockets at Israel for no reason; the Palestinians have been downtrodden and attacked for the last 50 years!
Palestinian are allowed self-defense for the misery inflicted to them by Israel, which takes more and more of their land, strangles their lifehood and deprives them of statehood.

In fact, the situation of Palestinians in Gaza is shameful for the rest of the world.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#298 Nov 21, 2012
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>These rockets don't cause much damage?oh well that's alright then,let them get their gollies firing rockets whenever it suits i'm sure the Israelis will find that most exceptable..How about the army in Ulster fire rockets into the south willy nilly and don't care where they land,i suppose you would find that exceptable then?
So killing dozens of women and kids is a proportionate response is it?

Are they stupid or something? Also the killing of the 13 year old boy, what was that all about?

The Palestinians are meant to be grateful for that are they?

Well if the Irish Army shot a 13 year old Northern Irish boy dead on the border, I would expect some sort of response. Wouldn't you?

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#299 Nov 21, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
Israel isn't just killing women and kids this week. Its going on a long time. Furthermore they are treating the Palestinians as subhuman, reminds me a bit of Apartheid South Africa. I guess you supported that too?
So every Palestinian woman and child killed had rockets in their backyard?
What about the 13 year old Palestinian boy shot by the Israeli's on the 9th of November. What did he do wrong? Is that the Palestinians fault too?
When have I ever said murdering innocent shoppers is ok?
I can't understand why you won't condemn the Israeli's killing women and kids. Oh thats right you despise Muslims, even Muslim children, isn't that right?
you think Israel is wrong to defend itself?
you attempted to justify the targeting of innocent Israeli civilians by Palestinian terrorists by saying
"As for the bus bomb today I condemn it. Although if someone killed your kids shooting from an airstrike what would you do about it? Say ''oh no its not their fault''? Also if someone killed your kids in an airstrike would you not want to fight back?"(to condemn then to qualify it with a "although" says it all)
newsflash putting a bomb on a civilian bus is not "fighting" it is murder.
i CAN understand why you think Palestinian terrorist should be allowed to murder Israelis at will,you despise Jews,even Jewish children isn't that right? you racist ante-semite scumbag.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#300 Nov 21, 2012
mick rock wrote:
<quoted text>You lot,who is you lot, you offensive moron,your flag speaks volumes and so do your posts. morals you joker !
So your not going to condemn the Loyalist slaughter of 33 civilians (pregnant women, babies, kids etc) on that day in 1974?

Scum of the earth.....
rio

Beckenham, UK

#301 Nov 21, 2012
mick rock wrote:
<quoted text>You lot,who is you lot,!
You lot = the Unionists = the loyalists

They were unable to administer Norther Ireland, and Westminster took that power away.

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#302 Nov 21, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh do they? They are always punished?
You talk sh*te. Many civilians (men women and kids) were killed by the British Army in Northern Ireland, and the British soldiers were never prosecuted for it.
You've no reason to be high and mighty. You also have an idiots view of the world....
Telling lies and then been proven wrong. Difference is I always condemn civilian deaths whoever does it, unlike you, muppet of the highest order...
You going to go on another rant now?
oh dear no need to get all teary and emotional,is there.
you mention the "Miami show band" murders in your argument and get upset when i used it to show the difference between the terrorist scum you support and the British Army,if you are dumb enough to use facts that you have not totally checked out ,that's you problem

you have a sixth form gobshites view of the world.

you waste your time with your insults,an insult of a terrorist supporting scumbag like yourself is no insult.
keep the flag fying,scumbag
frogmann

Pittsburgh, PA

#303 Nov 21, 2012
youtube.com/watch... ………old fart or young stinkers so nice
Krypteia

Whitehaven, UK

#304 Nov 21, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
To fire at an enemy, you must have a conflict going.
There is no conflict between Ulster and the Irish Republic, so an unprovoked attack would be outrageous.
There is a state of war between Israel and the Palestinians since 1948, and the recent exchange just constitues another episode of that conflict. Gaza didn't start firing rockets at Israel for no reason; the Palestinians have been downtrodden and attacked for the last 50 years!
Palestinian are allowed self-defense for the misery inflicted to them by Israel, which takes more and more of their land, strangles their lifehood and deprives them of statehood.
In fact, the situation of Palestinians in Gaza is shameful for the rest of the world.
I was making a point about rockets getting fired into Israel willy nilly to explode anywhere without a rats arse where they land,but with your same arguement about a state of war between the two sides whats the problem with Israel defending it's self then.
You said they didn't fire rockets for no reason,ok what was the reason for the justification of rockets being fired to land anywhere in civilian areas?suicide bombers?and the attack on a bus full of civilians then?...they been firing rockets into Israel for a long time and then they don't like it when they get fed up and get hit back.
mick rock

UK

#305 Nov 21, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
So your not going to condemn the Loyalist slaughter of 33 civilians (pregnant women, babies, kids etc) on that day in 1974?
Scum of the earth.....
Are you saying i am scum of the earth or the perpetrators ?
mick rock

UK

#306 Nov 21, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
You lot = the Unionists = the loyalists
They were unable to administer Norther Ireland, and Westminster took that power away.
Your becoming more bitter by the second you idiot !
Krypteia

Whitehaven, UK

#307 Nov 21, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
So killing dozens of women and kids is a proportionate response is it?
Are they stupid or something? Also the killing of the 13 year old boy, what was that all about?
The Palestinians are meant to be grateful for that are they?
Well if the Irish Army shot a 13 year old Northern Irish boy dead on the border, I would expect some sort of response. Wouldn't you?
You answered your own question..As for women and children getting killed well that happens in all conflicts iv'e seen first hand what the IRA,and the INLA especially were capable of doing when it comes to that,by the way got no time for the Prods either.
You don't see an Israeli strapping explosives to a child to do their dirty work.

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#308 Nov 21, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, again, you have the occasion of condemning the Protestant terrorists in Northern Ireland, but you won't ...
And he isn't flying the Hamas flag, but the Palestinian flag, internationally recognised.
i wrote in this thread:
ALL TERRORISTS ARE SCUM. the fact you ask such a question, speaks volumes about YOUR attitude towards terrorists. keep the flag flying,scumbag.(57 min ago | post #284)

the first four words,you don't understand them?
who said he was flying the Hamas flag?
FYI not recognised by all nations.
rio

Beckenham, UK

#309 Nov 21, 2012
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>I was making a point about rockets getting fired into Israel willy nilly to explode anywhere without a rats arse where they land,but with your same arguement about a state of war between the two sides whats the problem with Israel defending it's self then.
You said they didn't fire rockets for no reason,ok what was the reason for the justification of rockets being fired to land anywhere in civilian areas?suicide bombers?and the attack on a bus full of civilians then?...they been firing rockets into Israel for a long time and then they don't like it when they get fed up and get hit back.
It's an ongoing conflict, in which each side use what's available.

Hamas or the Palestinians don't have access to an air force, tanks, satellites, radars, sophisticated weaponery, so they use what's available to them: basic rockets with poor gudance system, bombs,suicide bombs, etc... Of course they shoot anywhere; I doubt if they could damage Israeli military installation anyway, so terrorising farmers is their only option, I suppose. Gaza has f*ck all to protect its population, and to an extent, don't care. Civilian casualties and a heavy toll are good for publicity and propaganda.

Israel has an overwhelming military superiority and obviously will inflict the most casualties. They have the technology, the money, the US support, etc... For example, they have an anti-rocket defense system. Anyone of their bomb will cause massive damage and plenty of casualties. They have no restrain and will show no mercy anyway.

The whole thing will hopefully draw attention to the poor conditions Palestinians have to endure in Gaza, because of Israeli oppression. Maybe the US will lean on Nethanyahu to force him to review some of his policies, but I doubt it.
rio

Beckenham, UK

#310 Nov 21, 2012
mick rock wrote:
<quoted text>Your becoming more bitter by the second you idiot !
I am stating facts; don't you like facts?
Krypteia

Whitehaven, UK

#313 Nov 21, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
It's an ongoing conflict, in which each side use what's available.
Hamas or the Palestinians don't have access to an air force, tanks, satellites, radars, sophisticated weaponery, so they use what's available to them: basic rockets with poor gudance system, bombs,suicide bombs, etc... Of course they shoot anywhere; I doubt if they could damage Israeli military installation anyway, so terrorising farmers is their only option, I suppose. Gaza has f*ck all to protect its population, and to an extent, don't care. Civilian casualties and a heavy toll are good for publicity and propaganda.
Israel has an overwhelming military superiority and obviously will inflict the most casualties. They have the technology, the money, the US support, etc... For example, they have an anti-rocket defense system. Anyone of their bomb will cause massive damage and plenty of casualties. They have no restrain and will show no mercy anyway.
The whole thing will hopefully draw attention to the poor conditions Palestinians have to endure in Gaza, because of Israeli oppression. Maybe the US will lean on Nethanyahu to force him to review some of his policies, but I doubt it.
We all see this from different angles and attitudes,i see it where Jews have been shat on for so long by different people they won't take no more crap.
I see Israel as their ancestral homeland it was Jewish long before the muzz were invented and the muzz have a cheek mot to reconise Israel.
I'm not saying Israel have been choir boys but the Palestinians arn't angels.
It's pointless argueing the toss because we both see it differently.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#314 Nov 21, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
The last time Israel killed over 1000 Palestinian civilians in 3 weeks. Back in 2009.
Perhaps if Israel cared more about the innocent Palestinians and didn't view them as vermin, maybe they would take more care?
The Israeli's shot dead a 13 year old boy on the 9th of November before all of this started.
These rockets don't cause much damage, even the ones that land. If the rockets were so deadly then why aren't dozens of Israeli's dead. You know? There is just something strange about that.
You don't get it do you.
Hamas stops firing, Muslim countries stop calling for the obliteration of the Jews, everyone lives happily ever after.

Islam hates Jews, therefre Israel will be attacked time and again, Israel will retaliate time and again.

Doesn't make it right, but Israel has the right to strike back.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#315 Nov 21, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
To fire at an enemy, you must have a conflict going.
There is no conflict between Ulster and the Irish Republic, so an unprovoked attack would be outrageous.
There is a state of war between Israel and the Palestinians since 1948, and the recent exchange just constitues another episode of that conflict. Gaza didn't start firing rockets at Israel for no reason; the Palestinians have been downtrodden and attacked for the last 50 years!
What happens when Israelis withdraw? Oh that's right, Hamas attacks Israel.
The reason Hamas fires missiles is because Iran supplies them the missiles and Muslims hate Jews.
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Palestinian are allowed self-defense for the misery inflicted to them by Israel, which takes more and more of their land, strangles their lifehood and deprives them of statehood.
In fact, the situation of Palestinians in Gaza is shameful for the rest of the world.
So why don't all the arab nations rise up against Israel and wipe the nation from the face of the earth? What's holding them back?
Do arabs think Palestininans are not worthy perhaps?

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#316 Nov 21, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
Are they stupid or something? Also the killing of the 13 year old boy, what was that all about?
?
Well, supply a link or two so I can read the story then.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#317 Nov 21, 2012
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>We all see this from different angles and attitudes,i see it where Jews have been shat on for so long by different people they won't take no more crap.
I see Israel as their ancestral homeland it was Jewish long before the muzz were invented and the muzz have a cheek mot to reconise Israel.
I'm not saying Israel have been choir boys but the Palestinians arn't angels.
It's pointless argueing the toss because we both see it differently.
Well put, and absolutely correct.

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