Irishman charged with 1982 IRA Hyde Park bombing

May 22, 2013 Full story: Boston Herald 302

A 61-year-old Irishman was charged in Britain Wednesday with the Irish Republican Army bombing of the queen's ceremonial cavalry in Hyde Park in 1982, a strike at a top London tourist attraction that killed four soldiers and seven horses.

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Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#167 May 26, 2013
James wrote:
The IRA surrendered in 1921 and achieved nothing that had not been agreed in 1914, before World War I.
Yeah, the IRA were so successful that Michael Collins killed them using weapons and ammunition from the British in order to turn southern Ireland into a Dominion of the Empire.
Now it's just a bankrupt slave of the EU, dependent on IMF bailouts.
So glad about the Famine!
Why continue spreading these lies when no one believes you?

A lot more was gained by the 1921 Treaty. Collins was merely holding up his end of the bargain, Collins was, historically speaking, the major winner from that period, unlike the Unionist lot who became old decrepit political failures, Carson himself admitted partition was a failure......

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#168 May 26, 2013
James wrote:
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The failed terrorist Easter Rising failed because it was pointless.
Westminster had already passed the Home Rule Bill in 1914, which meant that all of southern Ireland would leave the UK as soon as World War I ended.
Were those Irish children in pain when they starved to death?
It failed because the weapons supposed to be used were captured. The leaders knew it would fail but went ahead anyway.

And that isn't just some old Irish story to make them look better, we can see in diaries etc from before the Rising that they knew it would most likely fail due to the weapons being captured off the west coast.

Home Rule meant devolution within the UK. Not withdrawal from it.
You imbecile.....

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#170 May 26, 2013
straa wrote:
Britain conquered moat of Europe when we defeated napoleon, we defeated the biggest superpower of the time, Spain, in the spannish armada, then won two world wars, Britain has the best military record on earth, sucks to be you hey
All the while, the British forces had lots of Irish soldiers.....

See we win either way.

We can take credit (in part) if we wish for Britain's military history, then we can take credit (in full) for booting Britain out of most of the country when we got fed up......
James

UK

#171 May 26, 2013
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
Why continue spreading these lies when no one believes you?
A lot more was gained by the 1921 Treaty. Collins was merely holding up his end of the bargain, Collins was, historically speaking, the major winner from that period, unlike the Unionist lot who became old decrepit political failures, Carson himself admitted partition was a failure......
Nope. Nothing was gained by the failed Anglo-Irish Treaty that had not already been decided in 1914. Ireland could not have its own parliament and remain in the UK, so plans for partition were drawn up before the Buckingham Palace Conference.

Yeah, Collins was such a "winner" being shot dead by one of his own terrorists for murdering his own people.
James

UK

#172 May 26, 2013
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
It failed because the weapons supposed to be used were captured. The leaders knew it would fail but went ahead anyway.
And that isn't just some old Irish story to make them look better, we can see in diaries etc from before the Rising that they knew it would most likely fail due to the weapons being captured off the west coast.
Home Rule meant devolution within the UK. Not withdrawal from it.
You imbecile.....
Home Rule meant Ireland leaving the UK.

Devolution has destroyed the UK, which is why almost everybody in England wants Scotland gone.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#173 May 26, 2013
James wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. Nothing was gained by the failed Anglo-Irish Treaty that had not already been decided in 1914. Ireland could not have its own parliament and remain in the UK, so plans for partition were drawn up before the Buckingham Palace Conference.
Yeah, Collins was such a "winner" being shot dead by one of his own terrorists for murdering his own people.
Yeah Ireland fully left the UK after the Anglo-Irish Treaty 1921.

Yeah we could have, that is what the whole idea of Home Rule was, a devolved parliament with limited powers and still having some Irish seats in Westminster.

History has treated Collins far better than any of the other players from that time (Churchill aside). When did they ever make a film about Carson? Probably some low budget BBC 4 type thing, if even....LOL

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#174 May 26, 2013
James wrote:
<quoted text>
Home Rule meant Ireland leaving the UK.
Devolution has destroyed the UK, which is why almost everybody in England wants Scotland gone.
No Home Rule meant devolution for Ireland within the UK.

This was agreed, but the Loyalists ruined any realistic chance of it happening.

Maybe they were infiltrated by Republicans as far back as that?

That is the only reason I could think of for the cock up the Loyalists made of the situation, they couldn't shoot themselves in the foot to such a degree could they? On second thought, maybe they could, seems to be their speciality....
James

UK

#175 May 26, 2013
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah Ireland fully left the UK after the Anglo-Irish Treaty 1921.
Yeah we could have, that is what the whole idea of Home Rule was, a devolved parliament with limited powers and still having some Irish seats in Westminster.
History has treated Collins far better than any of the other players from that time (Churchill aside). When did they ever make a film about Carson? Probably some low budget BBC 4 type thing, if even....LOL
No, only southern Ireland left the UK.

You could not have a separate parliament, which is why partition was unavoidable.

Collins is only remembered because he got killed, like James Dean.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#176 May 26, 2013
James wrote:
<quoted text>
No, only southern Ireland left the UK.
You could not have a separate parliament, which is why partition was unavoidable.
Collins is only remembered because he got killed, like James Dean.
You do know that ''southern Ireland'' is called Ireland?''southern Ireland''? Donegal is ''southern Ireland'' is it?

Yes we could have a separate All-Ireland parliament with limited devolved powers whilst still having Irish representation at Westminster.

Scotland has the same, as does NI, and Wales in a more limited capacity.....

(cue James' rant about Scottish devolution meaning the UK has apparently ceased to exist)

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#177 May 26, 2013
The Unionists/Loyalists WOULD look a gift horse in the mouth. Actually they wouldn't just look, they'd stand there staring at it.....

Just their way of doing things I suppose.....

Slow learners....
Equality---

Lancaster, UK

#178 May 26, 2013
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
No Home Rule meant devolution for Ireland within the UK.
This was agreed, but the Loyalists ruined any realistic chance of it happening.
Maybe they were infiltrated by Republicans as far back as that?
That is the only reason I could think of for the cock up the Loyalists made of the situation, they couldn't shoot themselves in the foot to such a degree could they? On second thought, maybe they could, seems to be their speciality....
Great result today, for the Celts DUBS!
Double winners 2013 league and cup!

Celtic all over Hibernian, scorers Hooper 2 Ledley,1.
Though 'Man of the Match award, went to your fellow DUB, Anthony Stokes, he played a blinder!

Roll on next year, we are going to win, the champions league!

Just a wee bit of wishful thinking on my part, who says your not allowed to dream. LOL.
James

UK

#179 May 26, 2013
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
You do know that ''southern Ireland'' is called Ireland?''southern Ireland''? Donegal is ''southern Ireland'' is it?
Yes we could have a separate All-Ireland parliament with limited devolved powers whilst still having Irish representation at Westminster.
Scotland has the same, as does NI, and Wales in a more limited capacity.....
(cue James' rant about Scottish devolution meaning the UK has apparently ceased to exist)
Southern Ireland is just a bankrupt slave of the German-run EU.

No you couldn't.

Yes, Scotland and Northern Ireland and Wales all have parliaments, and England doesn't.

Which is why the UK will soon no longer exist, because people cannot take this sick evil any more.
straa

London, UK

#180 May 26, 2013
Dubbadub wrote:
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All the while, the British forces had lots of Irish soldiers.....
See we win either way.
We can take credit (in part) if we wish for Britain's military history, then we can take credit (in full) for booting Britain out of most of the country when we got fed up......
No, no, no. Scotland can claim credit for britains achievments, because they played such a big role in it, Britain is a union of four countries, but it was England and Scotland that made Britain great
straa

London, UK

#181 May 26, 2013
James wrote:
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Home Rule meant Ireland leaving the UK.
Devolution has destroyed the UK, which is why almost everybody in England wants Scotland gone.
Sorry mate but you are wrong there, most English people want Scotland to stay, if they left, the damage to them, England and Britain, would be huge
James

UK

#182 May 26, 2013
straa wrote:
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Sorry mate but you are wrong there, most English people want Scotland to stay, if they left, the damage to them, England and Britain, would be huge
No, the latest poll shows more than 87% of people in England want the Scots to go.

Labour made this inevitable by breaking up the UK and refusing to give England a parliament.
straa

London, UK

#183 May 26, 2013
James wrote:
<quoted text>
No, the latest poll shows more than 87% of people in England want the Scots to go.
Labour made this inevitable by breaking up the UK and refusing to give England a parliament.
Nonsense, will you leave a link to that poll
I can read

Falkirk, UK

#184 May 26, 2013
James wrote:
<quoted text>
No, the latest poll shows more than 87% of people in England want the Scots to go.
Labour made this inevitable by breaking up the UK and refusing to give England a parliament.
Got proof of this?

It really would take a gullable muppet to believe that without proof.

You aren't a gullable muppet are you?
James

UK

#185 May 26, 2013
Maybe then England won't continue to have unlimited mass immigration deliberately forced on it by a Labour government it didn't vote for.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#186 May 26, 2013
James wrote:
<quoted text>
Southern Ireland is just a bankrupt slave of the German-run EU.
No you couldn't.
Yes, Scotland and Northern Ireland and Wales all have parliaments, and England doesn't.
Which is why the UK will soon no longer exist, because people cannot take this sick evil any more.
No Scotland has a parliament, NI and Wales have assemblies.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#187 May 26, 2013
straa wrote:
<quoted text>
No, no, no. Scotland can claim credit for britains achievments, because they played such a big role in it, Britain is a union of four countries, but it was England and Scotland that made Britain great
Irish people served all over the world in the British forces for hundreds of years.

Britain is a union of 3 countries in greater Britain, hence the name ''Great Britain''....

And don't give me the bigoted ''Britain's achievements'' and ''only the Scots and English made Britain great'' nonsense, my great grandfather fought in WW1 you pr*ck.....

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