Prince Charles, an advocate of Sharia Law, apparently?

[rio]

free reality check wrote:

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most certainly the human rights record of the US is on a similar level as North Korea.
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Not on the same level, but still lacking for a country that is pretending to spread democracy, and preaching human rights to other nations.

Widespread detention without trial for undetermined periods and without legal scrunity is more akin to the gulag than to the exercise of law in a modern democracy.
On top of that, the kidnapping of people, their torture and detention in foreign countries to evade the US law is indicative that the human rights record isn't very good.
You don't see North Korea doing that.

I do not blame the methods, but I blame the hypocrisy.

[Equality---]

rio wrote:

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But it isn't, so stop using supposition as an argument.
When will you guys understand that different countries have different systems, different regimes, different cultures and different laws.
I fail to see how what's going on in Saudi Arabia affects the British population.
If, if, if. There is no if about it. I don't like the Sharia law no more than you, but we don't have it here, so why worry about it?
You guys fail to understand that this Western mentality of poking our nose in the internal affairs of countries that aren't as strong as powerful as us, maybe, open the door to them getting involved in our internal affairs.
If you don't like Sharia law in Britain (and who does?), maybe it's better to leave it where it is, instead of moralising the country about it.

Not only are you being totally selective in regard's to human right's abuse's and execution's, today, you have also been totally two-faced in regard's to your opinion and viewpoint on Sharia Law.

Post37# "We could do with some Sharia Law here to deal with our criminal's"

Post43# "I don't like Sharia Law, more than you do"

This and the fact, that you think it is okay, to execuete a child or adult for stealing, is beyond the pale for me.

I do not think that you are the person, that you usually present to this forum, so maybe all your previous post's which I thought were valid, are now bullshit pal.

I will argue aganist human right's abuse's anywhere, no matter who is responsible.
And I will not be selective on these view's, unlike yourself. And I most certainly, will not dismiss them, in the support and ahead of elitist fat cat, military profiteering pal and there blood soaked billion dollar contract's.

Have a good day!

[rio]

Equality--- wrote:

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I will argue aganist human right's abuse's anywhere, no matter who is responsible.

Well, you do that ...

[rio]

Equality--- wrote:

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This and the fact, that you think it is okay, to execuete a child or adult for stealing, is beyond the pale for me.

Yes, I am greatly in favour of the death penalty.
I think Britain made a big mistake dispensing with it to please the "bleedin hearts" like you.
Now, most of our dangerous criminals are roaming the streets, having been released from light sentences, or never prosecuted after initial charge.

[Dot Cotton]

rio wrote:

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Well, unlike some, I don't thinks it's my business to poke my nose in other countries affairs.
I don't think it's my mission in life to put the world to right.

well, you are always poking your nose into BRITISH affairs, and you aren´t British.

[Dot Cotton]

rio wrote:

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Yes, I am greatly in favour of the death penalty.
I think Britain made a big mistake dispensing with it to please the "bleedin hearts" like you.
Now, most of our dangerous criminals are roaming the streets, having been released from light sentences, or never prosecuted after initial charge.

like the moslem terrorists you are so eager to defend, and the moslem child rapists (who you say do not exist).

[Mr Tripod]

Thanks to the Internet, the world is getting to be a much smaller place.

Nobody should let a snide, fascist prick like Rio tell them to stop speaking out against inhumane, barbaric religious crap that belongs in the distant past like Sharia Law.

If enough people speak out, things can change.

[Equality---]

Equality--- wrote:

La'Fh'eile Padraig Sona Daoibh,
Happy St Patrick's day to the below children and grandchildren and great grandchildren of Irish immigrant's to Britain.
Jacquie Beltrao nee leavy.
Liz Hurley
Anna Friel
Jeremy Iron's
Micheal Caine
Jimmy Doherty
Pete Doherty
Ed Sheerin
Sharon Osbourne
Amanda Donohue
Barbara Windsor
Elvis Costello
Julie Walter's
Patsy Kensit
Sheree Murphy
Wayne Rooney
Collen Rooney nee Mc Loughlin.
Dawn French
Micheal Crawford
Danny Boyle
John Nettle's
Pauline Collin's
Daniel-day-lewis
Todd Carty
Catherine Cussack
Patrick Dempsey
Bill Nighy
Dominic Monaghan
Cillian Murphy
Tina O, Brien
Paul Mc Cartney
Minnie Driver
Tom Hardy
Colin Baker
Siobhan Donaghy
David Essex
Rio Ferdinand
Peter Mullan
Lorraine Kelly
Nicky Campbell
Sharleen Spiteri (Texas)
More celebrity's to come soon, folk's have a great St, Patrick's day...
"May you all be in heaven an half hour, before the devil know's you are there",
Exception's Humberman99, Revo, and Jame's they have pre-booked. LOL.

Please check out the above name's for yourselve's by pressing a few button's in regards to the Irish blood that flow's through these guy's and girl's vein's, as apparently some user's are judging me as clueless on this issue, and other issue's no doubt, each to there own.lol.

[Equality---]

rio wrote:

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Yes, I am greatly in favour of the death penalty.
I think Britain made a big mistake dispensing with it to please the "bleedin hearts" like you.
Now, most of our dangerous criminals are roaming the streets, having been released from light sentences, or never prosecuted after initial charge.

Criminality, is a complex issue, however poverty, low moral guidance, bad parental guidance, legal and illegal drugs addiction, easily access alcohol with added addiction, lack of mental health care, in the community, access to violent computer video games, access to gun's, all play a significant part in criminality.

So you are saying that a guy or girl, with mental health problem's should be executed if they committ a dangerous crime?

Last week a girl who was finally committed to a secure mental health unit for life, because she had stabbed a stranger to death in the street. Six year's previously this girl killed her mother, because of her unstable condition. Prior to her latest victim this unfortunate girl with serious mental health problem's, pleaded with doctor's, mental health official's, even police to help her as she beleived that stranger's were going to kill her, thus she killed first.

What happened with this girl, was tragic for her victim's and her, however she cannot be held responsible totally, she was failed by the system, similar to the numerous criminal's who are set free early, the system has failed, not them.
And the system can only work properly, if the resource's are there to fulfill it's obligation to protect, care, or punish.
Many prison's are filled to capacity, numerous facilitie's to treat the mental ill have been closed down or received heavy cutback's, care in the community is practically non-existant in some area's. Maybe if your past and present Government's etc spent less time courting evil regime's for the faceless elite and failed banker's, and instead provided system's with the right resource's and back up, many systems would not be failing.

Intervention in a positive and financial manner is the only cure for all of these now failed system's, which can only benefit the mentally ill and provide the proper punishment for dangerous criminal's.

If you wish to call me a "bleedin heart" for not agreeing with capital punishment, which has proved to be a failure eslewhere, by all mean's please do so.
If you wish to call me a bleedin heart for not agreeing that a child or adult thief should be publicly executed please do so. I have no qualm's with this cheap name calling on your part, as what you are wishing for, it is in my opinion, totally inhumane and callous.

[I can read]

Equality--- wrote:

<quoted text>Criminality, is a complex issue, however poverty, low moral guidance, bad parental guidance, legal and illegal drugs addiction, easily access alcohol with added addiction, lack of mental health care, in the community, access to violent computer video games, access to gun's, all play a significant part in criminality.
So you are saying that a guy or girl, with mental health problem's should be executed if they committ a dangerous crime?
Last week a girl who was finally committed to a secure mental health unit for life, because she had stabbed a stranger to death in the street. Six year's previously this girl killed her mother, because of her unstable condition. Prior to her latest victim this unfortunate girl with serious mental health problem's, pleaded with doctor's, mental health official's, even police to help her as she beleived that stranger's were going to kill her, thus she killed first.
What happened with this girl, was tragic for her victim's and her, however she cannot be held responsible totally, she was failed by the system, similar to the numerous criminal's who are set free early, the system has failed, not them.
And the system can only work properly, if the resource's are there to fulfill it's obligation to protect, care, or punish.
Many prison's are filled to capacity, numerous facilitie's to treat the mental ill have been closed down or received heavy cutback's, care in the community is practically non-existant in some area's. Maybe if your past and present Government's etc spent less time courting evil regime's for the faceless elite and failed banker's, and instead provided system's with the right resource's and back up, many systems would not be failing.
Intervention in a positive and financial manner is the only cure for all of these now failed system's, which can only benefit the mentally ill and provide the proper punishment for dangerous criminal's.
If you wish to call me a "bleedin heart" for not agreeing with capital punishment, which has proved to be a failure eslewhere, by all mean's please do so.
If you wish to call me a bleedin heart for not agreeing that a child or adult thief should be publicly executed please do so. I have no qualm's with this cheap name calling on your part, as what you are wishing for, it is in my opinion, totally inhumane and callous.

You think access to violent computer games causes crime?

Ever play cowboys and Indians as a kid?

Which is worse, playing soldier on your own on a computer or playing at racially motivated ethnic cleansing with real human beings?

[rio]

Equality--- wrote:

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So you are saying that a guy or girl, with mental health problem's should be executed if they committ a dangerous crime?

Last week a girl who was finally committed to a secure mental health unit for life, because she had stabbed a stranger to death in the street. Six year's previously this girl killed her mother, because of her unstable condition. Prior to her latest victim this unfortunate girl with serious mental health problem's, pleaded with doctor's, mental health official's, even police to help her as she beleived that stranger's were going to kill her, thus she killed first.
What happened with this girl, was tragic for her victim's and her, however she cannot be held responsible totally, she was failed by the system, similar to the numerous criminal's who are set free early, the system has failed, not them.

You just gave a good reason why that girl should have been executed six years ago after murdering her mother.

Try to explain to her last victim's family why she was let free to roam the streets and kill again.

And since we don't execute her now, we can expect the next generation of do-gooders and "bleeding hearts" like you to set her free to do the same again.

I really don't care what the moralists say about mental responsability or not; that woman is dangerous and a waste of space. Society don't need her and should get rid of her.

Bring back the death penalty, I say!!!

[Brainless Thullukan]

Equality--- wrote:

Prince Charles and his "beautiful" wife today lording it up, with many smile's, as they visited Saudi Arabia and other gulf states, who apply the barbaric Sharia Law onto there people's.
This evil Law, was actually cruelly practiced yesterday, when a juvenile was shot in the head, and publicly execueted in front of a baying crowd.
This's child's crime was to be stealing.
Within Saudi Arabia, 27 young men and woman, have faced this barbaric cruelty so far this year. It is thought that 200 human being's face this not called for punishment annually.
Apparently, if a country is soaked in riche's and oil, and that country, exact human right's abuse's, aganist children and adults because of a barbaric law, a British monarch has no problem' being it's friend and cosying up to that country.
The elite within Democratic society's, are the most sickening, shower of hypocritical fecker's that grace this planet. Prince Charle's son has recently been on military duty within Afghanistan, were he has supposedly killed insurgent's by his own spoofing admission, along with his comrade's, because these insurgent's do not wish for democracy, but instead want a government and law, similar to the Saudi's.
Plus young working class British fodder are also being slaughtered, which of course the British elite could not give two flying feck's about!!!
Yet there monarchy court's a similar regime with load's of smile's and ass licking.
Hypocritically nut's!!!

Thanks,

These facking Islamic law should not be practiced in the UK, If Muslims want to practice this barbaric law, they should be shipped back to their country of origin.

[Equality---]

rio wrote:

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You just gave a good reason why that girl should have been executed six years ago after murdering her mother.
Try to explain to her last victim's family why she was let free to roam the streets and kill again.
And since we don't execute her now, we can expect the next generation of do-gooders and "bleeding hearts" like you to set her free to do the same again.
I really don't care what the moralists say about mental responsability or not; that woman is dangerous and a waste of space. Society don't need her and should get rid of her.
Bring back the death penalty, I say!!!

It has nothing to do, with so called do gooder's or bleedin heart's. You have a completely closed mind on this issue, and similar to many right winger's, you cannot look outside the box, or at the bigger picture.
I am aware that her last victim's family, will be angry, that this girl was released, and so would I if it had happened to a member of my family.
However her freedom was obviously mis-diagnosed by so-called expert's from the medical world, otherwise she would have been deemed to dangerous to be set free..This is human error, abeilt a very costly human error, and was not this unfortunate girl,s doing.
She pleaded for help, that was not forthcoming, thus it was human error and the system, that was to let this girl down, and her last victim's family.
To kill the vulnerable, and mentally ill, within a supposed lawful democratic society, is exactly what the nazi's did during the second world war. As a civilised society, it is our duty to protect, nurture, and care for the vulnerable whether they are mentally ill, physically ill, or old, young, or inbetween.
Obviously, mental illness has not visited your family, and I hope it doe's not, however there is a good chance that it may, as one in three adult's will experiance mental illness, some time during there life-time, some more deeply than other's.
Mental illness, is no different to a physical illness, and it need's to be treated accordingly, to kill some-one for having a mental illness, is barbaric, sickening, and totally immoral, and totally extreme right wing.
Would you wish for your child or relative to have a mental illness, that caused them to committ a dangerous crime, and that if they were of sound mind, would not have committed and at the same time did not receive the proper medical attention, even though they were crying out for it, to be then hanged.
If not why not?
You maybe tempting fate pal. I have seen this numerous time's during my long life, were the rightheous and the blinkered judgemental, have had a similar fate bestowed onto them!!!
Is this a GOD working?

[rio]

Equality--- wrote:

<quoted text>It has nothing to do, with so called do gooder's or bleedin heart's. You have a completely closed mind on this issue, and similar to many right winger's, you cannot look outside the box, or at the bigger picture.
I am aware that her last victim's family, will be angry, that this girl was released, and so would I if it had happened to a member of my family.
However her freedom was obviously mis-diagnosed by so-called expert's from the medical world, otherwise she would have been deemed to dangerous to be set free..This is human error, abeilt a very costly human error, and was not this unfortunate girl,s doing.
She pleaded for help, that was not forthcoming, thus it was human error and the system, that was to let this girl down, and her last victim's family.
To kill the vulnerable, and mentally ill, within a supposed lawful democratic society, is exactly what the nazi's did during the second world war. As a civilised society, it is our duty to protect, nurture, and care for the vulnerable whether they are mentally ill, physically ill, or old, young, or inbetween.
Obviously, mental illness has not visited your family, and I hope it doe's not, however there is a good chance that it may, as one in three adult's will experiance mental illness, some time during there life-time, some more deeply than other's.
Mental illness, is no different to a physical illness, and it need's to be treated accordingly, to kill some-one for having a mental illness, is barbaric, sickening, and totally immoral, and totally extreme right wing.
Would you wish for your child or relative to have a mental illness, that caused them to committ a dangerous crime, and that if they were of sound mind, would not have committed and at the same time did not receive the proper medical attention, even though they were crying out for it, to be then hanged.
If not why not?
You maybe tempting fate pal. I have seen this numerous time's during my long life, were the rightheous and the blinkered judgemental, have had a similar fate bestowed onto them!!!
Is this a GOD working?

There is nothing right-wing about it. Dangerous people, sick or not, are regularly set free in society, on some dubious moral ground, because of expediency or budget consideration, to commit the same crime again and again.
That's a plain fact!

You maybe tempting fate too, and come to regret your leniency one day; think about that!

Also, invoking God's judgement to support your argument demonstrates how low you are prepared to go...

[Equality---]

rio wrote:

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There is nothing right-wing about it. Dangerous people, sick or not, are regularly set free in society, on some dubious moral ground, because of expediency or budget consideration, to commit the same crime is a fact.

So you are admitting it is the system that is failing these people and there victim's.

So by your own admission if the system is failing them, you still wish to murder them ye?
If your answer is yes, this is more than extreme right wing pal, it is barbaric to the extreme, thus maybe mental illness has visited you.

I did not invoke God's judgement, I asked you a question, in fact I asked you two question's which you did not bother to answer. I wonder why?

Furthermore, I have never heard nor seen a dangerous criminal being released to commit further crime, because of a case of dubious morality. Bonker's!

[rio]

Equality--- wrote:

<quoted text>So you are admitting it is the system that is failing these people and there victim's.
So by your own admission if the system is failing them, you still wish to murder them ye?
If your answer is yes, this is more than extreme right wing pal, it is barbaric to the extreme, thus maybe mental illness has visited you.
I did not invoke God's judgement, I asked you a question, in fact I asked you two question's which you did not bother to answer. I wonder why?
Furthermore, I have never heard nor seen a dangerous criminal being released to commit further crime, because of a case of dubious morality. Bonker's!

Eliminating from society dangerous people seems to me to be highly justified.
Protection from criminals and lunatics isn't too much to ask from the police and our legal system, is it?
Most of these people put away for life sentences end up being release after a certain time, to empty the prisons or Dartmoor.
Only the most notorious cases end up dying there.
On average, a murder ends up meaning 8 years in jail, and release on license. That's nowhere near enough to punish a murderer or act as a deterrent.

To me, the only life sentence should be the death sentence.

I agree with countries that still have the death penalty, like China, Iran, the USA, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc...
I wish we had it here in UK.

[Equality---]

I can read wrote:

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You think access to violent computer games causes crime?
Ever play cowboys and Indians as a kid?
Which is worse, playing soldier on your own on a computer or playing at racially motivated ethnic cleansing with real human beings?

Cowboy's and Indian's cannot be compared to computer game's that are so life -like many susceptable children actually beleive they are committing murder, whilst being engrossed in these so-called brutal game's..

Numerous of today's children, are stuck in there bedroom's enacting out masse murder scenario's, whilst also being addicted to these game's. Some even enjoy having there young brains and eye's, invaded with blood and gore on a daily basis as they enact out brutal war scene's etc.

To naively beleive that this behavior doe's not have an effect on the growth of some susceptable children would be naive to say the least ICR. Some of these children I am sure actually beleive that they are killing, as they enact these brutal so-called game's.

I am also certain that the recent young lone spray killer's in the USA were to have once and were engrossed in these sicko computer game's.

I was an Indian as a child, even then I instinctly knew that these people were wronged, whenever we would watch them on a saturday morning in the local flea ridden picture house. I bet you were the heroe cowboy ICR, you know the white man, who could do no wrongdoing!!!

LOL, LOL.

[free reality check]

rio wrote:

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You just gave a good reason why that girl should have been executed six years ago after murdering her mother.
Try to explain to her last victim's family why she was let free to roam the streets and kill again.
And since we don't execute her now, we can expect the next generation of do-gooders and "bleeding hearts" like you to set her free to do the same again.
I really don't care what the moralists say about mental responsability or not; that woman is dangerous and a waste of space. Society don't need her and should get rid of her.
Bring back the death penalty, I say!!!

you want to execute mentally disturbed offenders?

for murder only or other crimes too?

[I can read]

Equality--- wrote:

<quoted text>Cowboy's and Indian's cannot be compared to computer game's that are so life -like many susceptable children actually beleive they are committing murder, whilst being engrossed in these so-called brutal game's..
Numerous of today's children, are stuck in there bedroom's enacting out masse murder scenario's, whilst also being addicted to these game's. Some even enjoy having there young brains and eye's, invaded with blood and gore on a daily basis as they enact out brutal war scene's etc.
To naively beleive that this behavior doe's not have an effect on the growth of some susceptable children would be naive to say the least ICR. Some of these children I am sure actually beleive that they are killing, as they enact these brutal so-called game's.
I am also certain that the recent young lone spray killer's in the USA were to have once and were engrossed in these sicko computer game's.
I was an Indian as a child, even then I instinctly knew that these people were wronged, whenever we would watch them on a saturday morning in the local flea ridden picture house. I bet you were the heroe cowboy ICR, you know the white man, who could do no wrongdoing!!!
LOL, LOL.

I smell bullshit.

You always played an indian to be politically correct?

[I can read]

free reality check wrote:

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you want to execute mentally disturbed offenders?
for murder only or other crimes too?

Probably not.

He got pulled up for an awful spell of trolling last week and he has p[robably realised that the only person gullable enough to still think he means what he posts is equality.

Hence Rio now suddenly trolling equality.