Revealed: Leeds care homes and day centres at risk of closure

Feb 8, 2013 Full story: Yorkshire Evening Post 20

The residential homes earmarked for closure are Amberton Court in Gipton; Burley Willows in Burley; Fairview in Seacroft; Manorfield House in Horsforth; Musgrave Court in Pudsey; Primrose Hill in Boston Spa; Home Lea House in Rothwell, and Suffolk Court in Yeadon.

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Blackwood, UK

#1 Feb 14, 2013
I would just like to say how very disgusted I feel at the way these poor people of these homes are being treated. They have worked hard all their lives some will have fought in the war risking their own lives for their country, they will have experienced and seen such things of which I hope we never see again and this is how theyre treated now. I find it disgusting how these people who have worked so hard all their lives who have paid their taxes and National Insurance and had to sell their homes (for which they have worked so hard for all their lives) to pay for their care are now being forced out of yet another home they have come to know and love. These people have feelings and rights and should be given the choice of where they want to live. These people are not just statistics and numbers on a piece of paper these are real people with real lives being affected by someone who as never met them, doesn't know them and as never asked or consulted their opinon. We owe these people the right to Choose where they want to live and to make their remaining years happy and content, without fear of being shunted around just because of someones budget.

george mason


#2 Feb 20, 2013
my wife has advanced dementia, so when she is put into respite care i need to feel the care she is getting is the best there is musgrave court met every criteria one could hope for, and after twice being in private care; one on collecting her she was in a smoking room, the other one i can only describe as horrendous; but with musgrave court, even though it's old the care was 5 star +, and when i collected her she was glowing, we need this care home to stay open and a labour controlled council should not be going the tory privatisation way. shame on you leeds city council.
Someone who has a voice

Leeds, UK

#3 Feb 20, 2013
I am writing this because I have a voice, unlike so many members of our vunerabal elderley local community who are deemed not to have mental capacity , therefore they are an easy target for the budget cuts that are being implemented.

I undersstand the good will of trying our best to keep relatives , friends, spouses within their own home enviroment, but sometimes with all the will in the world, our specialised locally run and funded facilities are vital.

These centres have been built up over years, with specailised training,forward thinking individuals at the forefront, who provide the most essential care, at a persons most venerable moment.
Carers that care! which is not always the case.
I'm not naive,i know about budget cuts and all of us having to bare the wieght of this deficit, but this under no circumstances should include anyone who has already lost. Lost the individual they once were. They've already invested their time, energy, finances,experiences ,for us years ago, now they're here, without a voice.
They need us, as proud citizens of Leeds,to now invest in them, to make a stand against this nonsense, for them, for us and for any ill fated person that might fall victim to the terrible disease that is dementia.
Use your voice,please,Shout!
P.S it needs to be loud cos they can't often hear owt through those "Big Wigs"
Concerned Pudsey Dweller

Leeds, UK

#4 Feb 20, 2013
I would like to add my concerns regarding the possible closure of Musgrave Court, this is an important care home for the Pudsey area, where local people can be sure their loved ones will be well looked after and will be near enough for friends and relatives to keep in touch with them, they may not have active minds, but are still a part of this local community. Having lived in the Pudsey area all my life, I would like to think that in my aging years there will be such a wonderful, caring place should I ever need this specialised care, near enough for my family to keep in contact with me. Also it will be very upsetting for those people who are at present in Musgrave Court, to be taken out of their surroundings and placed somewhere they do not know.
It is not enough to think well the people will not be aware of what is happening to them, but their families will. I hope the people who make the decisions will think about peoples feelings, these days everything is about money, what about loyalty and love.

Toronto, Canada

#5 Feb 21, 2013
1:30 pm, Thursday, February 21, 2013:
No comments on the thread, but having lived and gone to school in Leeds many years ago I just want to wish all of you in Leeds the best of luck! Look after your health, it is more valuable than money!

London, UK

#6 Feb 26, 2013
I would just like to say i think its absolutally diabolical that HOMES like MUSGRAVE COURT could possibly be closed due to budgets and cut backs.
The people with this unfortunate disease have worked all there lifes payed there taxs...and for what?
If anything we need more dementia homes,and people who CARE about others welfare.Im concerned for these people as it seems they may have NO CHOICE but to move and possibly loose contact with friends and family.For most of these people its there home town!
There has been so many homes closed-looks like a poor future for the next generation,and that generation maybe you or i !!
My Dad had Dementia


#7 Mar 1, 2013
I cannot believe that the Council would even PROPOSE to close a home such as Musgrave Court in Pudsey.
I tried, on numerous occasions, without success, to place my beloved Father in this home as it was by far the best home I visited in West Leeds in regards to the SPECIALIST DEMENTIA CARE provided.
I could not get the placement because the home was filled to capacity and I needed a placement desperately.
After 5 months in a PRIVATE SECTOR home as a FULL SELF FUNDING individual, I managed to secure a placement at Musgrave Court and my Beloved Father was moved.
It was the best thing that happened from the day my Father was diagnosed.
The care was second to none, from the management team who were supportive and empathetic to the cleaning staff that welcomed us into their 'Musgrave Court Fsmily'
I was confident and secure that my Father would be looked after, and he was, because for the first time from diagnosis I watched him flourish.
Musgrave Court is a specialist home which provides RESIDENTIAL CARE for people with Alzheimer's and Dementia.
My Father's decline was horrific to witness, made far easier by the wonderful support of these amazing people. My Father was not moved into a Nursing home, as I attended a meeting with the manager and deputy who decided that it was not in my Father's best interest to move him as the massive change may have a further derogatory effect.
He died peacefully, surrounded by his family and his 'Musgrave Court family'
The care he received both Socially and Nursing made me wonder how I would ever have coped would he not have been placed there.
The Council surely must have relatives or friends in this situation? With people living longer and Dementia on the increase, where are these people going to be placed?
Nicola Taylor

Huddersfield, UK

#8 Mar 2, 2013
I have just fallen upon this thread, surely this cannot be right? Have Leeds City Councils decision makers began suffering from Dementia themselves?! They must be senile to suggest that saving money by closing home's such as Musgrave Court is the way forward. My best friends Mother lived in Musgrave Court, up until them I had never known such places exsisted. My friend actually choose Musgrave Court even though it was not the nearest home. Her mother, like the post above, died at the home and my friend still visits up until this day. The support she received helped her through some very dark days. I hope for all the Residents at the home, and the staff, that the Council review this ridiculous proposal and put a stop to it. Does anyone know of any petitions or websites that i can direct myself and my friend to help support the Residents of Musgrave Court?
R Stothard

Leeds, UK

#9 Mar 6, 2013
I felt it appropriate to join in with the comments on here, my grandma is currently at Musgrave and is very happy and settled there. I was made aware of the situation facing Musgrave and its amazing staff and felt I had to do something about it! I have started a petition, which is located at various business/shops throughtout Pudsey. I have also set up a facebook page 'SAVE musgrave court' which has recieved amazing support!! I have written to several of the local councillors and to the head of adult social care at Leeds city council. I would urge every single one of you to spare a moment and support me and hopefully we can make a difference. For the sake of my grandma and for every resident, I intened to fight the proposed plans. The people of Pudsey deserve to have a say in what happens in their community and sadly who knows when we ourselves may need such services? For more information please contact me, thank you.

Oldham, UK

#10 Mar 6, 2013
Being a carer on a emi unit this kind of change is not good for dementia clients at all.

London, UK

#11 Mar 10, 2013
I would like to express my anger at the proposed changes of these care homes, in particular Musgrave Court, which I believe specialises in Dementia Care. I understand the council have a problem in having to maintain their budgets, but why should these poor vulnerable people have to suffer because of this? these poor people have to endure this horrific debilitating disease that has robbed them of so much already. this disease not only robs them of their memories but can effect their speech, mobility and character. It also has a devastating effect on their family who has to watch their loved ones suffer through this awful disease.
HAVE THESE POOR PEOPLE AND THEIR FAMILIES NOT SUFFERED ENOUGH ALL READY? and have the poor souls suffering from this not lost enough, without having to cope with the added stress of losing their homes and familiar surroundings, with faces they know and trust. For fear of being moved to somewhere unfamiliar to them with faces they do not know. Surely the people who make these decisions can't think this is beneficial to them. I may not be an expert myself but any fool can see this would only confuse and upset them more. I urge the decision makers to give these people some EMPATHY. Give them the DIGNITY to live out their remaining days in familiar surroundings with people they know and trust to give them the care they so obviously need. THESE PEOPLE FOUGHT A WAR FOR US FOR GOODNESS SAKE SO THAT WE COULD BE A FREE NATION WITH FREEDOM OF CHOICE LET US GIVE THEM THEIR CHOICE. IT IS OUR TURN TO FIGHT FOR THEM WE OWE THEM THIS....
george mason


#12 Mar 14, 2013
Is it my bad mind, i was thinking that musgrave court stands on a premium,very large plot of land!! minutes from Pudsey town centre, near the park,etc should fetch a few bob, however, if Musgrave's demise was held on for another five years or more working on the theory that construction, had recovered, the land would then be worth five times it's present value, therefore more than covering any costs and more, than closing it down. However i find that councellors are a blinkered bunch, who would'nt be employable in the private sector.

Blackwood, UK

#13 Mar 15, 2013
Crabbit Old Woman by Phyllis McCormack 1966
What do you see nurse,
What do you see?
What are you thinking
When you look at me?
A crabby old woman,
Not very wise,
Uncertain of habit
With far away eyes.

Who dribbles her food
And makes no reply;
Then you say in a loud voice,
"I do wish you'd try."
Who seems not to notice
The things that you do,
And forever is losing
A stocking or shoe.

Unresisting or not,
Lets you do as you will;
With bathing or feeding,
The long day to fill.
Is that what you're thinking,
Is that what you see?
Then open your eyes nurse,
You're not looking at me.

I'll tell you who I am,
As I sit here so still,
As I move at your bidding,
As I eat at your will.

I'm a small child of ten ...
With a father and mother,
And brothers and sisters
Who love one another.

A girl of sixteen,
With wings on her feet;
Dreaming that soon,
A lover she'll meet.

A bride soon at twenty ...
My heart gives a leap;
Remembering the vows
That I promised to keep.

At twenty-five,
I have young of my own,
Who need me to build
A secure and happy home.

A woman of thirty,
My young now grow fast,
Bound together with ties
That forever should last.

At forty, my young ones
Have grown up and gone;
But my man is beside me
To see I don't mourn.

At fifty, once more ...
Babies play 'round my knees;
Again we know children,
My loved ones and me.

Dark days are upon me,
My husband is dead ...
I look at the future,
I shudder with dread;
For my young are all rearing,
Young of their own,
And I think of the years
And the love I have known.

I am an old woman now,
Nature is cruel,
'Tis her jest to make old age
Look like a fool.

The body, it crumbles,
Grace and vigor depart,
There is now a stone
Where I once had a heart.

But inside this old carcass,
A young girl still dwells,
And now and again
My battered heart swells.
I remember the joys,
I remember the pain,
And I'm loving and living
Life over again.

I think of the years ...
All too few, gone too fast,
And accept the stark fact
That nothing can last.

So open your eyes nurses,
Open and see ...
Not a "Crabbit Old Woman,"
Look closer ... see "Me."
Blessed Are They

Blackwood, UK

#14 Mar 16, 2013
Blessed Are They….
Blessed are they who understand
My faltering step and shaking hand.
Blessed are they who know my ears today
Must strain to hear the things they say.
Blessed are they who seem to know
My eyes are dim and my answers slow.
Blessed are they who look away
When my tea was spilled at the table today.
Blessed are they who with a cheery smile
Will stop to chat for a little while.
Blessed are they who never say
“You’ve told that story twice today.”
Blessed are they who know my ways
And bring back memories of yesterdays.
Blessed are they who ease the days
And care for me in loving ways.
Blessed are they who make it known
I’m loved, respected and not alone.
Author Unknown

Since: Mar 13

Rotherham, UK

#15 Mar 18, 2013
Having experienced at first hand the dedication and devotion of all the wonderful members of staff at MUSGRAVE COURT in Pudsey who care for the people suffering from that terrible disease 'dementia' I can not believe that it would ever be considered for closure. For the past three years I have been visiting my mother there. I have seen the care, love and patience shown by the staff. I have seen how settled, the people who live there are. Why would anyone want to upset there routine? and cause them more stress and upset?? Some elderly members of our family and friends, still live in the Pudsey area, and would not be able to visit if MUSGRAVE COURT was closed. The staff and people at MUSGRAVE COURT deserve our help and support. Not the threat and upset of a threatened closure.

Since: Mar 13

Leeds, UK

#16 Mar 24, 2013
For the people on here who are serious in assisting with the campaign 'SAVE musgrave court' there are several ways you can do this....

1) join the facebook page 'SAVE' musgrave court' and send this page to people in your contacts, the more supporters the better!

2) There is an online petition, (under leeds city council care homes) also attached to the facebook page.

3) Write to your local MP/councillors and express your concerns over the proposals.

Thank you!
Doris Boyd

Leeds, UK

#17 Apr 4, 2013
Nicola Taylor wrote:
I have just fallen upon this thread, surely this cannot be right? Have Leeds City Councils decision makers began suffering from Dementia themselves?! They must be senile to suggest that saving money by closing home's such as Musgrave Court is the way forward. My best friends Mother lived in Musgrave Court, up until them I had never known such places exsisted. My friend actually choose Musgrave Court even though it was not the nearest home. Her mother, like the post above, died at the home and my friend still visits up until this day. The support she received helped her through some very dark days. I hope for all the Residents at the home, and the staff, that the Council review this ridiculous proposal and put a stop to it. Does anyone know of any petitions or websites that i can direct myself and my friend to help support the Residents of Musgrave Court?
See Facebook page : Save Musgrave Court - there is a petition going (there also local ones in Pudsey)
Dementia Carer

Leeds, UK

#18 Apr 21, 2013
I have worked with people suffering with a degenerative brain disease for over 10 years, I watched people I've come to care for deeply deteriorate and subsequently die. We were there through the good and the bad times, the laughs and the tears, they became family! Keeping routine and familiarity to people who suffer with a dementia is imperative to the care, well being, and sense of worth. There understanding may be impaired but they have the same rights as every citizen of Leeds! If this happens and they close homes and move people on, this could be devastating to a person with a dementia!

Leeds, UK

#20 Aug 30, 2013
I really can't believe that elderly vulnerable people are being forced out of there home. Shame on you !!

Harrogate, UK

#21 Nov 13, 2014
I would like to comment on the recent proposals by the Council to close yet more homes in Leeds.
I cannot believe this is happening again, were are all these poor people going to go. They will all be put in the private sector because there isn't going to be any council run homes left. We have a duty to these people to fight these decisions why should they be turned out of their homes just because of budgets cuts. I personally think it is disgusting our Elderly deserve respect they fought a war to make this country what it is today GREAT BRITAIN well I see nothing great in what the council is doing to these poor vulnerable people. We should be looking after our Elderly not treating them like this. They have a right to live out their lives in a place they will have come to know and love with people who they know and look after them. Some of these people will have Dementia and this is a terrible and debilitating disease. People with Dementia need familiar surroundings and being sent somewhere new with different people they do not know will only confuse and upset them and could be detrimental to their health. I ask the people of Leeds and any one with any feelings who cares about our Elderly to stand together and fight these decisions, this cannot happen again.

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