Irish Christmas sign to hang at City Hall again this year

Oct 2, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Fermanagh Today

DUP efforts to prevent the display of a Happy Christmas sign in Irish on Belfast City Hall were defeated in a vote on Monday night.

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Allymac

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Nov 23, 2012
 
rio wrote:
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Are you a man or a woman?
I am only asking! LMFAO
Why....what would you like me to be?LOL
Allymac

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Nov 23, 2012
 
rio wrote:
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My brass hat relative, as you said, was very well informed; some of the directives you served under had been decided by him!
That annoys you, doesn't it, that some people know a bit more about something than YOU, just because you were there - or so you pretend. If I tell you that Northern Ireland was talked about at the dinner table every day when I was young, somethimes with important guests too.
It's not the man on the ground who sees best sometimes, but the one who observes from a distance.
Keep going, private ...
Discussions at the dinner table eh?You lackeys shouldn't have been listening to your masters conversations.Nosey cnuts.LOL.
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My brass hat relative, as you said, was very well informed; some of the directives you served under had been decided by him!
That annoys you, doesn't it, that some people know a bit more about something than YOU, just because you were there - or so you pretend. If I tell you that Northern Ireland was talked about at the dinner table every day when I was young, somethimes with important guests too.
It's not the man on the ground who sees best sometimes, but the one who observes from a distance.
Keep going, private ...
Walter Mitty or what?
look Walt, stop making a fool of yourself,no one believes your drivel.
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My brass hat relative, as you said, was very well informed; some of the directives you served under had been decided by him!
That annoys you, doesn't it, that some people know a bit more about something than YOU, just because you were there - or so you pretend. If I tell you that Northern Ireland was talked about at the dinner table every day when I was young, somethimes with important guests too.
It's not the man on the ground who sees best sometimes, but the one who observes from a distance.
Keep going, private ...
yes rio remembers how his "brass hat relative" allowed him to sit in on the planning for "overlord" in fact he sat on Ikes knee!
then there was the time his "brass hat relative" let him help with the S.A.S assault on the Iranian embassy,he was the one who did not get tangled in his rope!

FFS get a grip you prat,British Military higher ups DO NOT DISCUSS OPS,with their more than likely gay, left wing ,foreign relatives.

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Well here you , you see.
I suppose the pro-loyalists on this thread approve of that.
But the UDR then was an ad-hoc unit recruited in NI, to support the RUC (itself pro-loyalist) and never considered a traditional British Army Regiment in the traditional sense. They were part-time locals and I think they were looked down by mainland regiments on duty in NI; different mentality, different training, no historical tradition, etc...
With all this collusion between the loyalist paramilitary, the RUC and the UDR, it's no wonder the Catholic community was given a hard time, and that the IRA became so extreme.
Yeah they approve of it which only goes to defeat the whole purpose of what they are saying. The UDR with their links to Loyalists did a massive dis-service to the British Army's reputation in NI.

Its all there for eveyone to see, yet they still deny it to the ground. Even when the British Army and Government themselves are admitting it and saying it was wrong.

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Allymac wrote:
<quoted text>And I'm not a Protestant.....so.
So???

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With all this collusion between the loyalist paramilitary, the RUC and the UDR, it's no wonder the Catholic community was given a hard time, and that the IRA became so extreme.
Here is yet more evidence of UDR collusion

http://www.thedetail.tv/issues/20/udr-girdwoo...

''The British army has been accused of a ’cover up’ after it was disclosed that it has withheld evidence for more than three decades revealing that UDR units were being used to finance and support the UVF in Belfast, with at least 70 soldiers on one base linked to the loyalist terror group.''

''Army chiefs feared that 70 soldiers in one UDR unit were linked to the UVF in west Belfast, including one member of the notorious Shankill Butcher gang;''

''One UDR unit was suspected of siphoning-off £47,000 to the UVF while UDR equipment was regularly stolen from another unit to support the loyalist terror group;''

''UVF members were regularly allowed to socialise at the UDR’s Girdwood barracks social club;''

''Army chiefs considered secretly testing firing UDR soldiers’ weapons to check whether they had been used in sectarian murders;''

''A female clerk told SIB investigators that an unnamed UDR soldier had ordered her to hand over £300 each month to the UVF or her daughter would be targeted.''

''Army chiefs were subsequently informed that equipment stolen from another UDR unit on the same base was being used to equip the UVF.''

''The investigation revealed that UVF paramilitaries, who had no legitimate connection to the UDR, were allowed to socialise in the unit’s mess inside the army base.''

''It was only disclosed years later that McIlwaine had led a double life as a UDR soldier and Shankill Butcher.''

''Now these papers prove they had evidence of collusion between the UDR and UVF but they covered it up for 34 years.''
toadmann

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Nov 23, 2012
 
youtube.com/watch... ……Young Stinkers or Old Farts Deck the Halls
Allymac

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#241
Nov 26, 2012
 
Wonder how the Smithwick inquiry is coming along?
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Wonder how the Smithwick inquiry is coming along?
the question is, how many UVF men are now in government, and how many public parks are now named after UVF killers?

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Allymac wrote:
Wonder how the Smithwick inquiry is coming along?
Yeah I wonder?

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the question is, how many UVF men are now in government, and how many public parks are now named after UVF killers?
Maybe if more were in government the Protestant working class would have more of a voice?

The mainstream Unionist parties are only interested in the middle and upper classes. It appears they treat working class Protestants with disdain, embarrassment.

Who politically represents the Protestant working class?
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Maybe if more were in government the Protestant working class would have more of a voice?
The mainstream Unionist parties are only interested in the middle and upper classes. It appears they treat working class Protestants with disdain, embarrassment.
Who politically represents the Protestant working class?
in these days, who exactly are the "working class". People that could have been described so 40 years ago will not have a life style as then, mostly far better. The well off now regale in declaring they are "working class".
For instance, how would you describe the ordinary members of the Orange Order, or the Masonic Order?

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humberman99 wrote:
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in these days, who exactly are the "working class". People that could have been described so 40 years ago will not have a life style as then, mostly far better. The well off now regale in declaring they are "working class".
For instance, how would you describe the ordinary members of the Orange Order, or the Masonic Order?
The lower paid workers and the working poor, and the unemployed are lumped into the ''working'' class too. I mean the living standards of everyone have improved in the last 40 years. The less well off people in society are the working class. What are the DUP and UUP doing for them?

The opportunities are now opened up for working class people, but its still harder to avail of these opportunities because of money etc.

I'd know, I am one.....

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Nov 26, 2012
 
Plus most of the traditional working peoples jobs have been shipped abroad.....
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The lower paid workers and the working poor, and the unemployed are lumped into the ''working'' class too. I mean the living standards of everyone have improved in the last 40 years. The less well off people in society are the working class. What are the DUP and UUP doing for them?
The opportunities are now opened up for working class people, but its still harder to avail of these opportunities because of money etc.
I'd know, I am one.....
well, you now have people with good uni degrees unable to find jobs that compliment that degree, in fact, they cannot get jobs at all.
Though it is not surprising whenever health and safety and coffin chasing lawyers sit on the backs of anyone daring to try and open a business.
Go to China. Pay under wages, forget about health and safety. We have lost the plot in the West. The clock is ticking.
In Northern Ireland, they even name childrens playparks after a terrorist.
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In Northern Ireland, they even name childrens playparks after a terrorist.
yes jason
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yes jason
whatever the name, truth is the game.
Dubbadub

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well, you now have people with good uni degrees unable to find jobs that compliment that degree, in fact, they cannot get jobs at all.
Though it is not surprising whenever health and safety and coffin chasing lawyers sit on the backs of anyone daring to try and open a business.
Go to China. Pay under wages, forget about health and safety. We have lost the plot in the West. The clock is ticking.
In Northern Ireland, they even name childrens playparks after a terrorist.
You have to go to uni these days. There are very few ''jobs for life'' etc left for working class people. The choices are uni or an apprenticeship. And in the current economic climate an apprenticeship is hard to come by, and is fairly useless unless another building boom happens which is very unlikely.

The traditional factory jobs etc are few and far between. As are the safe jobs within nationalised or semi-state companies. Civil service also now desires people who have a uni education.

Why pay one of us 7 quid an hour when a Chinese person will do the same thing (albeit probably to a lower standard) for 1 quid an hour.

Why does every conversation on every issue have to go back somehow to the IRA and Northern Ireland?
rio

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Dubbadub wrote:
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Why does every conversation on every issue have to go back somehow to the IRA and Northern Ireland?
The man is just obsessed by it, can't you see?

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