Old Bailey bomber Dolours Price found dead in Dublin

[Roderic]

the real Blunt Mocker wrote:

I wonder if Dolores Price got minced after her death and is now in some "Foine Olde Real Oirish Sausages"? what did they do with Bobby Sands? not much meat there!

I heard they buried Sands in a pencil case.

I guess trying to re-enact the Famine wasn't such a good idea, even if he was too much of a coward to serve his prison sentence.

[Dubbadub]

sawdoff wrote:

the one world govt is coming for us all be brave stand up against tyranny not led like sheep to the slaughter qeustion everything trust only who you can.

What one world government?

There is undoubtedly something sinister behind a lot of what goes on within international relations and with regards to global economics.

How will this problem be dealt with in your opinion?

[Roderic]

Thank God the Irish Field Marshal Kitchener defeated the Boers after he liberated the Sudanese from the Khalifa.

[Dubbadub]

Roderic wrote:

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Ireland played a massive role in building the Empire which brought democracy to much of the world.

And what Irish Catholics were making decisions about colonialism?

Why did the silly pigs have to bring their religious nonsense to this island with their ignorant Presbyterianism and Church of Ireland?

Britain was ruled by some pig ignorant walking abortions throughout its history.

Pity really......

[Dubbadub]

Roderic wrote:

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Ireland played a massive role in building the Empire which brought democracy to much of the world.

You can thank the Empire for all the immigration to the UK since the 1950's.......

[Roderic]

Dubbadub wrote:

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You can thank the Empire for all the immigration to the UK since the 1950's.......

Actually you can thank successive failed governments for that, beginning with Macmillan in 1957.

James Wolfe was an Irish Catholic who liberated Canada from the French. Clive of India, Dyer of Amritsar and Rhodes of Africa were all Irish as well.

[Dubbadub]

Roderic wrote:

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Actually you can thank successive failed governments for that, beginning with Macmillan in 1957.
James Wolfe was an Irish Catholic who liberated Canada from the French. Clive of India, Dyer of Amritsar and Rhodes of Africa were all Irish as well.

Actually you can blame the Empire, for putting Britain on a pedestal as the motherland.

Oh there are plenty of Irish Catholics who did much for the freedom of nations in south America and elsewhere, but in the case of Britain? Irish Catholics whoi made decisions regarding colonialism? None?

[Roderic]

Dubbadub wrote:

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Actually you can blame the Empire, for putting Britain on a pedestal as the motherland.
Oh there are plenty of Irish Catholics who did much for the freedom of nations in south America and elsewhere, but in the case of Britain? Irish Catholics whoi made decisions regarding colonialism? None?

No, immigation was deliberately encouraged after 1957.

Wolfe? Rhodes? Clive? Kitchener? Kelly-Kenny? etc.

Even Henry VIII remained a Catholic throughout his life.

[Krypteia]

Dubbadub wrote:

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S f what Irish Catholics were making decisions about u did the silly pigs have to bring their religious l to this l G ignorant Presbyterianism and Church of Ireland?
Britain was ruled by some pig ignorant walking abortions throughout its history.
Pity really......

funny really it was a Brit that brought Christianity to your country in the first place,good old St Patrick ,a lot of silly pigs there before hand

[Dubbadub]

Krypteia wrote:

<quoted text>funny really it was a Brit that brought Christianity to your country in the first place,good old St Patrick ,a lot of silly pigs there before hand

It was actually Palladius a person from Rome who was here before Patrick.

Patrick was bigged up by some 7th century religious scholar.

But shhhh its a handy bank holiday lol.....

[Dubbadub]

Roderic wrote:

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No, immigation was deliberately encouraged after 1957.
Wolfe? Rhodes? Clive? Kitchener? Kelly-Kenny? etc.
Even Henry VIII remained a Catholic throughout his life.

From Commonwealth nations especially, Commonwealth is the Empries leftovers for the most part.

I'm talking about Irish-Catholics who made political decisions regarding British colonial expansion?

[the real Blunt Mocker]

all the poor old Paddies can ever do is argue about the past and who is to blame. Perhaps this is why all famous irishmen left Ireland to live anywhere else.

[Dubbadub]

the real Blunt Mocker wrote:

all the poor old Paddies can ever do is argue about the past and who is to blame. Perhaps this is why all famous irishmen left Ireland to live anywhere else.

Shhh taffy your not from an important enough ''region'' to enter into these discussions.

[Roderic]

Dubbadub wrote:

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From Commonwealth nations especially, Commonwealth is the Empries leftovers for the most part.
I'm talking about Irish-Catholics who made political decisions regarding British colonial expansion?

You mean Irish colonial expansion?

Anyway most overseas possessions came about as a result of the Seven Years' War against France - Canada, India, islands in the West Indies etc.

Almost every country in Europe had overseas possessions, including Holland and Belgium.

[Dubbadub]

Roderic wrote:

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You mean Irish colonial expansion?
Anyway most overseas possessions came about as a result of the Seven Years' War against France - Canada, India, islands in the West Indies etc.
Almost every country in Europe had overseas possessions, including Holland and Belgium.

Stop talking nonsense about ''Irish colonial expansion''.

There was no Irish colonial expansion done with Irish authority, such as an Irish King. Well the case can be made about parts of Wales etc back in 300-500AD and such but nothing outside these islands....

That is true many countries in western Europe did. We did not. I guess we most probably would have if we had a chance but we were under the authority of English and later British monarchs.

[Roderic]

George II was King of Ireland at the time of the Battle of Plassey where Clive expelled the French from India, and the Battle of the Plains of Abraham where Wolfe defeated the French which led to the complete end of French authority in North America.

All countries in western Europe have experienced mass immigration so the point about Commonwealth countries is now irrelevant.

[Dubbadub]

Roderic wrote:

George II was King of Ireland at the time of the Battle of Plassey where Clive expelled the French from India, and the Battle of the Plains of Abraham where Wolfe defeated the French which led to the complete end of French authority in North America.
All countries in western Europe have experienced mass immigration so the point about Commonwealth countries is now irrelevant.

Yeah British monarchs who had authority over Ireland. Makes any point about Irish colonial expansion null and void, lands claimed were not loyal to an Irish King or were not claimed in the name of Ireland but instead in the name of Britain.

It is not irrelevant, the majority of western European countries are full of immigrants from their old colonial possessions, look at France, UK and Holland for examples of this. The Commonwealth is responsible of mass immigration to the UK, the Empire is the reason why the majority in Britain will most likely be coffee coloured in the future, not something I would rejoice about but thats the silly empire for you......

[Roderic]

Hardly "silly" as countries like India would not be democracies today without the UK.

Anyway Ireland still had its own separate parliament at the time of the Seven Years' War.

[Dubbadub]

Roderic wrote:

Hardly "silly" as countries like India would not be democracies today without the UK.
Anyway Ireland still had its own separate parliament at the time of the Seven Years' War.

Irish Catholics, which the vast majority of Irish people were, couldn't vote nor sit in the Irish Parliament. It was a British Parliament in Ireland where only Protestants could vote and be elected to. Protestants would have been the British landed classes. Although the ''Old-English''(Hiberno-Norman ) classes in Ireland who arrived in the the 1100's would have been Catholic and would have also been discriminated against by these silly discriminatory laws regarding religion.

No doubt the British Empire did achieve some good things, but the immigration issue in Britain for the past five decades is related to the past empire. I don't rejoice in the fact that British people as we know them are disappearing, as despite my arguments about history etc, I still see the Brits as a very decent bunch, and very similar to the Irish......

[Roderic]

The immigration is a result of the UK destroying itself by starting World War II.

At least we will be leaving the failed EU before it implodes.

What do you think caused all the immigration to southern Ireland from the late 1990s onwards?