Five dead in Ukraine plane crash

Five dead in Ukraine plane crash

There are 26 comments on the Independent.ie story from Jun 11, 2012, titled Five dead in Ukraine plane crash. In it, Independent.ie reports that:

A small plane carrying parachute jumpers has crashed on landing during a severe storm near the Ukrainian capital, killing five and injuring 13 people on board.

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separatist

Ukraine

#1 Jun 11, 2012
climate changes..now storm is not a rare phenomena in Ukraine
Warrior Poet UGX

Odessa, Ukraine

#2 Jun 11, 2012
I have seen many storms in Ukraine during my five visits in the last ten years. You cannot blame all of them on climate change. What are you going to do next? maybe blame it on some scapegoat group?
separatist

Ukraine

#3 Jun 11, 2012
Warrior Poet UGX wrote:
I have seen many storms in Ukraine during my five visits in the last ten years. You cannot blame all of them on climate change. What are you going to do next? maybe blame it on some scapegoat group?
My dear Poet, so you reject "climate changes"? Hehe, so much scientists believe , but you reject..
Warrior Poet UGX

Odessa, Ukraine

#4 Jun 11, 2012
Much of the evidence for Global Warming has been found to be falsified. As a matter of fact, during the last 6-10 years the global temperature has actually dropped (a fact which is quickly hidden and ignore by those promoting the scam).. Either way it is rather arrogant to think that man can change climate significantly. Climate on this planet has been changing cyclically for millinia. At one time Antarctica was a tropical jungle. At one time only a narrow belt near the equator was ice free. Nature does quite a good job of changing climate cyclically without worrying about puny little man.
At one time the same people who are now playing "Chicken Little" (look him up in a library of American legends/fairy Tales if you have one where you live) with the climate were moaning about the nuclear bomb tests changing the weather. They, as so often is their case, were completely unaware that one good rainstorm releases, every minute, more heat energy than all the nuclear devices EVER detonated by man. Do you seriously think that man's carbon dioxide release comes close to that of the volcanic action on earth-- no way.
Go ahead, run around screaming the sky is falling, you are funny anyway. However, the Global Warming panic DOES make it easier for governments to take over more and more control of industry thereby contributing to their own power.

I know that this does not match your preconceptions so you will just deny and insult-- go ahead, it will fall on deaf ears.
Philip Allchurch JD

Edmonton, Canada

#5 Jun 11, 2012
Warrior Poet UGX wrote:
Much of the evidence for Global Warming has been found to be falsified. As a matter of fact, during the last 6-10 years the global temperature has actually dropped (a fact which is quickly hidden and ignore by those promoting the scam).. Either way it is rather arrogant to think that man can change climate significantly. Climate on this planet has been changing cyclically for millinia. At one time Antarctica was a tropical jungle. At one time only a narrow belt near the equator was ice free. Nature does quite a good job of changing climate cyclically without worrying about puny little man.
At one time the same people who are now playing "Chicken Little" (look him up in a library of American legends/fairy Tales if you have one where you live) with the climate were moaning about the nuclear bomb tests changing the weather. They, as so often is their case, were completely unaware that one good rainstorm releases, every minute, more heat energy than all the nuclear devices EVER detonated by man. Do you seriously think that man's carbon dioxide release comes close to that of the volcanic action on earth-- no way.
Go ahead, run around screaming the sky is falling, you are funny anyway. However, the Global Warming panic DOES make it easier for governments to take over more and more control of industry thereby contributing to their own power.
I know that this does not match your preconceptions so you will just deny and insult-- go ahead, it will fall on deaf ears.
That is totally correct. Geological records indicate warmings ,coolings, glacial periods, interglacial periods and cooling trends. So many factors are involved like 1000 year wobbles of the earth's axis and orbit variations. It is childish and arrogant to assume humans control everything. When Krakatoa and Mt Pinatubo and Mt St Helen's blew their volcanic tops, each released as much Co2 into the atmosphere in a few days as was released in 20 years of industrial pollution. Global warming is just another fraud.
Philip Allchurch JD

Edmonton, Canada

#6 Jun 11, 2012
separatist wrote:
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My dear Poet, so you reject "climate changes"? Hehe, so much scientists believe , but you reject..
Yes Warrier Poet has an American Science degree a BS from University and I also have a Canadian Science degree a BSc. So we are are scientists and have considered the data. and you Seperatist are an expert and have degrees in what may I ask ? racism, hatred and kubasa ?
separatist

Vinnitsa, Ukraine

#7 Jun 11, 2012
My dear friends,
our primitive mankind widely used natural resources (oil, gas) many years. Where is an energy, produced due to this permanent process? In the atmosphere. Where is CO2? In the atmosphere.
So, global warming continues, of course.
Philip Allchurch JD

Edmonton, Canada

#8 Jun 11, 2012
separatist wrote:
My dear friends,
our primitive mankind widely used natural resources (oil, gas) many years. Where is an energy, produced due to this permanent process? In the atmosphere. Where is CO2? In the atmosphere.
So, global warming continues, of course.
We have had the coldest summer in Canada for 100 years. Seven degrees today, normally 20 degrees. The only warming going on is in your head,as you cook up your stupid ideas and theories. God Help Ukraine with Ukrainians like you around.So you have no shkola I see ?.... It shows.
separatist

Vinnitsa, Ukraine

#9 Jun 11, 2012
Philip Allchurch JD wrote:
<quoted text>We have had the coldest summer in Canada for 100 years. Seven degrees today, normally 20 degrees. The only warming going on is in your head,as you cook up your stupid ideas and theories. God Help Ukraine with Ukrainians like you around.So you have no shkola I see ?.... It shows.
but we have hot summer, moderate winter and climate like georgian.
You are loser, so winner is coldest for you. I hope only, not all diaspora consists from the same idiots, as you, my friend
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Finland

#10 Jun 11, 2012
Polak chimps apparently at the helm once again.
separatist

Vinnitsa, Ukraine

#11 Jun 11, 2012
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
Polak chimps apparently at the helm once again.
o, Licky , your brain is still frozen by winter frosts? Like arctic ice? Frozen forever? How much from you to Nord Polar?
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Finland

#12 Jun 11, 2012
separatist wrote:
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o, Licky , your brain is still frozen by winter frosts? Like arctic ice? Frozen forever? How much from you to Nord Polar?
It depends Mykola. How many polaks are you willing to sell.
separatist

Kiev, Ukraine

#13 Jun 11, 2012
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
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It depends Mykola. How many polaks are you willing to sell.
It depends only from kind of vodka, what you drink. As russian patriot, you have use only "Kremlewskaya" and "Putinskaya"(last one is prepared om the basis of his urina). You have good taste, Licky.
Warrior Poet UGX

Odessa, Ukraine

#14 Jun 11, 2012
Phillip-- as regards Separatist and the climate: A little knowledge is a dangerous thing". It sure appears that he has a little as anyone. He has preconceived ideas and refuses to be confused by facts. It is best that we consider the source and ignore him. HE is a waste oftime.

Again, it seems that you and I are on the same page. It is so nice to find someone who can discuss based on facts instead of jabbering ethnic hatred nonsense.
We also have been having a cold spring in Oregon.( I check the temperatures at home on the internet). Separatist is yakking about the hot summer here but I have not seen it yet. Two years ago it was realaly hot, now it is nice. He has a memory that is programmed by the garbage he has been fed.
separatist

Ukraine

#15 Jun 12, 2012
Warrior Poet UGX wrote:
We also have been having a cold spring in Oregon.( I check the temperatures at home on the internet). Separatist is yakking about the hot summer here but I have not seen it yet. Two years ago it was realaly hot, now it is nice. He has a memory that is programmed by the garbage he has been fed.
What is sense to reject so obvious things, as global warming..
It is not my opinion, its scientific fact.
Warrior Poet UGX

Odessa, Ukraine

#16 Jun 12, 2012
Wrong-- it is a fraud perpetrated by a group which wishes to use it to gain control over industries. It has been formulated by perverting the Scientific Method in the following way: 1) State your conclusion, 2) pick the facts which support your conclusion, 3) Process those facts to form a hypothesis which, wonder of wonder, agrees with your chosen conclusion, 4) smear liberally with pseudoscientific terminology to confuse the uneducated, 5) publish to get the desired result.
You my friend have fallen heavily for the entire fraud.

Enjoy running around crying "The world is heating, the world is heating" C. LIttle.
Warrior Poet UGX

Odessa, Ukraine

#17 Jun 12, 2012
BTW-- what has global warming and separatism have to do with the topic of the thread. I grieve for those lost in the plane crash, also for those surviving but injured. I guess those don't couont to you as much as your "causes". You may be in Kiev (or maybe using a proxy server) but you certainly don't resemble any of the wonderful Ukrainian people I know. What are you really?
separatist

Sumy, Ukraine

#18 Jun 12, 2012
Warrior Poet UGX wrote:
BTW-- what has global warming and separatism have to do with the topic of the thread. I grieve for those lost in the plane crash, also for those surviving but injured. I guess those don't couont to you as much as your "causes". You may be in Kiev (or maybe using a proxy server) but you certainly don't resemble any of the wonderful Ukrainian people I know. What are you really?
Five dead in Ukraine plane crash due to storm, produced by Global warming..All is clear and simple.
Philip Allchurch

Calgary, Canada

#19 Jun 12, 2012
Philip Allchurch

Calgary, Canada

#20 Jun 12, 2012
Warrior Poet... The above site refers to 17,200 scientists that dispute global warming, citing The example of Greenland that was warm enough for colonization by Europeans a millenium ago, and then turned cold. There are cycles within cycles when it times to climate , and many of those cycles are thousands of years long, so our measuring system of 100 years or s ,is not indicative of very much. The only warming trend going on is in Seperatist's empty head as it is overheating from lack of intellectual capacity from his incessant racism and hatreds. Now there is a true imbecile. I doubt he is Ukrainian. I have never met one as stupid as him.Only idiots dispute rational analysis, like we are capable of making with our advanced scientific degrees. Seperatist has no respect for education and is what is called a " porozhnya banyak "in ukrainian ... or simply Banyak which means an empty jar or crock pot that is normally used for canning or storing pickles or cabbage. Traditionally when one is called a bunyak,in russian and ukrainian it is because one has an empty head, like Seperatist!

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