Time To Recognise The Armenian Genocide

Time To Recognise The Armenian Genocide

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True Facts

Birmingham, UK

#1 Oct 24, 2011
Part1.

The Armenian ambassador to Britain on why he believes, nearly a century on, Turkey should admit to a genocide

Throughout the twentieth century to the present day there has not been any substantiated doubt about the character of the mass deportations, expropriation, abduction, torture, starvation and killings of millions of Armenians throughout Ottoman Turkey that started on a large scale in 1915 and carried onto 1923.

Centrally planned by the government of the day and meticulously executed by the huge machine of the state bureaucracy, army, police, hired gangs and - specially released for that purpose - criminals from prisons, the campaign had one clear aim expressly stated by the government in secret directives: to rid Anatolia of its indigenous Armenian population and settle the so –called ‘Armenian question’ for good.

An entire nation and its Christian culture were eliminated to secure a homogenous Turkish state on territories where Armenians had lived for many centuries.

Terms such as “genocide” or “ethnic cleansing” were not in circulation then, so Winston Churchill later referred to the 1915 massacre of 1.5 million Armenians as an “administrative holocaust”.

The Turkish authorities made no secret of the aim once it was achieved and other governments and nations have known the truth since. One of the early accounts of Armenian Genocide was published in 1916 in Britain.

The British Government at the time commissioned James Bryce and Arnold Toynbee to compile evidence on the events in Armenia. The subsequent report was printed in the British Parliamentary Blue Book series “The Treatment of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, 1915-1916”. The report leaves no doubt about what was taking place.
True Facts

Birmingham, UK

#2 Oct 24, 2011
Part2.

In 1915, thirty-three years before UN Genocide Convention was adopted, the Armenian Genocide was condemned by the international community as a crime against humanity. It is well acknowledged that Polish jurist Raphael Lemkin, when he coined the term genocide in 1944, cited the Turkish extermination of the Armenians and the Nazi extermination of the Jews as defining examples of what he meant by genocide.

Amidst huge international pressure, the Turkish Government succeeding the Young Turks had not only to recognize the scale and vehemence of the atrocities but also to try the perpetrators in military tribunals and sentence the leaders to death.

However, the sentences were not carried out and with the passage of time moods changed not only in Turkey but also in some countries, such as the UK, where Turkey is nowadays seen as a key alley. Still, even in countries that have not yet for some reason recognized the Genocide scholars have no doubts about the character of the events: they point out that there is no scholarly issue, only one of political expediency.

Armenians throughout the world insist that there be an international recognition and condemnation of what is often called the first genocide of the twentieth century. We are past the stage of scholarly discussion since a very few challenge the fact. To dispel any doubt, 126 leading scholars of the Holocaust placed a statement in the New York Times in June 2000 declaring the "incontestable fact of the Armenian Genocide" and urging western democracies to acknowledge it.

In 2005 the International Association of Genocide Scholars addressed an open letter to Turkey’s Prime Minister R. Erdogan calling upon him to recognize the truth. The evidence is so overwhelming that the only question remaining is how to help the two nations close that shameful page of the history, reconcile and move forward.

However, despite the affirmation of the Armenian Genocide by the overwhelming majority of historians, academic institutions on Holocaust and Genocide Studies, increasingly more parliaments and governments around the world, and by more and more Turkish scholars and intellectuals, the Turkish government still actively denies the fact. So long as they do that, Armenians have no choice but to struggle for wider international recognition.

This is however not an end in itself. It is important that Turkey recognizes the Genocide, apologizes and condemns it. When the Germans have apologized for the sufferings they had caused to the Jews, the British for slavery, the Americans for their treatment of native Americans etc, Turkey’s continuing denial, moreover, increasing efforts and resources spent on the denial are alarming signs, aggravated by their insistence not to establish diplomatic relations with neighbouring Armenia and by maintaining a blockade on all ground communication. Armenia does not even set the recognition of the Genocide as a prerequisite for normalizing relations and calls for establishing diplomatic relations and opening of the border without any preconditions.

As the killing this January of Hrant Dink, the Turkish-Armenian editor of the Agos bilingual periodical demonstrates, international community cannot stand aside and watch. Hrant was persecuted under the infamous 301 article for “insulting Turkish identity” and the hysteria around someone daring to speak the truth created the fertile soil for the hatred that killed him. His case was shamefully still open even after his assassination and in a demonstration of absolute absence of morality, Turkish courts yesterday sentenced Hrant’s son, as well as another of Agos’s current staff to a year of imprisonment under the same accusations, for simply daring to re-print Hrant’s words.
True Facts

Birmingham, UK

#3 Oct 24, 2011
Part3.

This is why the world should not yield to Turkish threats that are outright blackmailing. The resolutions in various legislatures across the world, and recently in the US House of Representative Foreign Relations Committee are not merely the result of Armenian Diaspora’s – which by the way, was created in the first place because of the genocide in Turkey - influence. It is because there are more people who believe in values and in putting the wrongs right.

A number of British MPs have tabled an EDM (Early Day Motion), to raise the awareness about the Armenian Genocide and calling on British Government to recognize it as such. Currently, around 170 MPs across the party lines have signed an EDM which reads “That this House believes that the killing of over a million Armenians in 1915 was an act of genocide; calls upon the UK Government to recognize it as such; and believes that it would be in Turkey's long-term interests to do the same.”

Their number grows steadily. It is time the British Government followed many others and re-affirmed the UK’s place among the standard-bearers of democracy and human rights.

It is worth repeating that international recognition of the Genocide cannot do harm to Turkish-Armenian relations since they simply do not exist. It does not prevent a dialogue, on the contrary, creates the necessary conditions to start a frank one. By recognizing the historic truth and helping open the last closed border in Europe, the international community can facilitate long-lasting stability and prosperity in our region. And it is also probably time to show that the human race’s evolution into the 21st century is evolution of ideals, principles and a code of behaviour that should take precedence over political expediency or sheer commercial interest.

Vahe Gabrielyan
Armenia’s Ambassador to the Court of St. James’s
Truth and Correct

Anonymous Proxy

#4 Oct 25, 2011
This is not close even to be called a joke!

Turkey is demanding from Israel to an apology?!

How about suing for many genocides that Turkey committed.

Israel defending herself and a legal blockade of Gaza as stated by the UN report.

Israel should not apologize for self-defense. And even if it did, it would not help in any shape or form.

I am ashamed of Turkish behavior as a person.

I used to make plans to visit Turkey at some point.

No longer I and my many friends have any desire to go there, a brutal and violent place.

Turkey will always be known for the genocides and crimes commited agaist all humanity!

Plain and simple as that!

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#6 Oct 25, 2011
There are 74.000.000 Turks

Israel is only 8 Millions..

If we all fart at the same time..

Israel will be under the alpha/beta/gamma beams and sound with destruction impact of the ""Dangerous fart Gas"""
hahah

How is this ratio :))One fart from every Turks will be enough
hahahahaha

hahahah

Oh those idiot anti-Turks..

hahah

USA is leaving the zone...
We are the Super Power of the all around Balkans,Caucassians and Middle east...

hahahaha
Truth and Correct

Anonymous Proxy

#8 Oct 25, 2011
Ha!ha!ha!

What are you taking about?

You, your self are not a Turk!

Most of you are Christians forced to converts!

Ha!ha!ha!ha!

The true Turks in Turkey today are less than 10.000.000!!

25.000.000 are Kurds!

15.000.000 are Christian Armenians!

and 5.000.000 are Greeks!

There is not a single drop of Turkish blood left in Turkey today!

Ha!ha!ha!ha!

There was never such a thing as Turks or Turkey!

You are just brainwashed, a fanatic for no reason!

There is no such a think as Turkish nation!

Ha!ha!ha!ha!

Oh, do you need any help or assistance with the earth quake?

Ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!

Truth and Correct

Anonymous Proxy

#9 Oct 25, 2011
Ha!ha!ha!

What are you taking about?

You, your self are not a Turk!

Most of you are Christians forced to converts!

Ha!ha!ha!ha!

The true Turks in Turkey today are less than 10.000.000!!

25.000.000 are Kurds!

15.000.000 are Christian Armenians!

and 5.000.000 are Greeks!

There is not a single drop of Turkish blood left in Turkey today!

Ha!ha!ha!ha!

There was never such a thing as Turks or Turkey!

You are just brainwashed, a fanatic for no reason!

There is no such a think as Turkish nation!

Ha!ha!ha!ha!

Oh, do you need any help or assistance with the earth quake?

Ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#10 Oct 25, 2011
Be more creative idiot :))

same all bullshits brought you to the ""Vanishing Point""

As a Liarmenian you will have only 185years on the earth with the natural causes of the CURSE of betraying every single friend,mate,partner,neighbour etc..

Sorry...

“April 24 1915”

Since: Dec 10

Vedi, Armenia

#11 Oct 25, 2011
Ha! Ha!

It's the truth that hurts you after all!
Memory Refresher

Thailand

#12 Oct 25, 2011
Mostly agree!

It would be appropriate for Turkey to pay for ALL expenses related to the last illegal flotilla.

This would include the pay of all soldiers involved, the cost of fuel used, the food to feed the criminals arrested, and any damage related to public image.

I'd say 200 million dollars would cover most of the costs.

That of course doesnt include the payment to the genocide victims!

“"Armenia Uber Alles"”

Since: Aug 11

Republic of Turgey

#13 Oct 26, 2011
True Facts wrote:
Part3.
This is why the world should not yield to Turkish threats that are outright blackmailing. The resolutions in various legislatures across the world, and recently in the US House of Representative Foreign Relations Committee are not merely the result of Armenian Diaspora’s – which by the way, was created in the first place because of the genocide in Turkey - influence. It is because there are more people who believe in values and in putting the wrongs right.
A number of British MPs have tabled an EDM (Early Day Motion), to raise the awareness about the Armenian Genocide and calling on British Government to recognize it as such. Currently, around 170 MPs across the party lines have signed an EDM which reads “That this House believes that the killing of over a million Armenians in 1915 was an act of genocide; calls upon the UK Government to recognize it as such; and believes that it would be in Turkey's long-term interests to do the same.”
Their number grows steadily. It is time the British Government followed many others and re-affirmed the UK’s place among the standard-bearers of democracy and human rights.
It is worth repeating that international recognition of the Genocide cannot do harm to Turkish-Armenian relations since they simply do not exist. It does not prevent a dialogue, on the contrary, creates the necessary conditions to start a frank one. By recognizing the historic truth and helping open the last closed border in Europe, the international community can facilitate long-lasting stability and prosperity in our region. And it is also probably time to show that the human race’s evolution into the 21st century is evolution of ideals, principles and a code of behaviour that should take precedence over political expediency or sheer commercial interest.
Vahe Gabrielyan
Armenia’s Ambassador to the Court of St. James’s
Nice work, thank you.

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#16 Oct 26, 2011
Armenian Genocide?

hahahahaaha

Christianity is hazardous for the Human health,must be banned immediately....

We can not call Christianty ""a religion of love""
This love looks like the love of a bear...
When bear like to fcukk he squeze the female bear...heheheheh

Christians were like bears...
They killed the millions of non-christians with several reasons...when trying to make love to them :))hahahahah

South american INCA AZTEC MAYa nations have been killed in the name of Christianity and Jesus and for gold.
Were pizarro Cortez and Other Spanish and Porueqese conquistador islamic imams?

Even Christian protestants have been killed for the name of jesusin 30 years religion wars in europe .The Catholic Pope said

""yes there were some catholics but god will seperate them after their deads"""" "
Who killed Protestants in 100years war,Turks?hahahah
What a love religion....

6 millions of Jews,Egyptian arabs or Christian German Nazis?

Middle eastren moslems have been killed in 11 Crusades by the LOVE RELIGION Christianity killers...

50 Millions of people have been killed in Europe and Asia during the 1 and 2 World wars,by Americans,germans,Britts,Frenc hs and Russians.

Were they all moslems or cyripto moslems who have been killing all the Christians*hahahahahahaha

Polish 250.000 have been killed Katyn Forest in 1944, by the Love religious Kyrpto Soviet Soldiers....

Who killed 350.000 Bosnians in 1990s infront of the ""Civilized Europens for 3 years with snypers"""Eskim os?

3.000.000 algerians have been killed by France army after the 2.WW?

10.Who killed 40 millions of north american indians in USA 200 years one by one,Turks?

250.000 Japanese people has been killed with the Nuke bombs after a finished war just for the revenge of pearl Harbour for the sake of jesus Christ the LOVE MESSENGER hahahahaha

2.500.000 Vietnam people in 1960s amd 70s USA&France armies of Christianty..

LOVE RELIGION is not CHRISTIANITY...
CHRISTIANS kill for imperialism or oil&Gas....

So,Christianity must be outlaw and banned immediately to stop mass killings for a fictious Prophet and Fictious religion...

What do you say?
Armenian Diaspora

Coquitlam, Canada

#17 Oct 26, 2011
OguzTolga wrote:
Armenian Genocide?
hahahahaaha
Christianity is hazardous for the Human health,must be banned immediately....
We can not call Christianty ""a religion of love""
This love looks like the love of a bear...
When bear like to fcukk he squeze the female bear...heheheheh
Christians were like bears...
They killed the millions of non-christians with several reasons...when trying to make love to them :))hahahahah
South american INCA AZTEC MAYa nations have been killed in the name of Christianity and Jesus and for gold.
Were pizarro Cortez and Other Spanish and Porueqese conquistador islamic imams?
Even Christian protestants have been killed for the name of jesusin 30 years religion wars in europe .The Catholic Pope said
""yes there were some catholics but god will seperate them after their deads"""" "
Who killed Protestants in 100years war,Turks?hahahah
What a love religion....
6 millions of Jews,Egyptian arabs or Christian German Nazis?
Middle eastren moslems have been killed in 11 Crusades by the LOVE RELIGION Christianity killers...
50 Millions of people have been killed in Europe and Asia during the 1 and 2 World wars,by Americans,germans,Britts,Frenc hs and Russians.
Were they all moslems or cyripto moslems who have been killing all the Christians*hahahahahahaha
Polish 250.000 have been killed Katyn Forest in 1944, by the Love religious Kyrpto Soviet Soldiers....
Who killed 350.000 Bosnians in 1990s infront of the ""Civilized Europens for 3 years with snypers"""Eskim os?
3.000.000 algerians have been killed by France army after the 2.WW?
10.Who killed 40 millions of north american indians in USA 200 years one by one,Turks?
250.000 Japanese people has been killed with the Nuke bombs after a finished war just for the revenge of pearl Harbour for the sake of jesus Christ the LOVE MESSENGER hahahahaha
2.500.000 Vietnam people in 1960s amd 70s USA&France armies of Christianty..
LOVE RELIGION is not CHRISTIANITY...
CHRISTIANS kill for imperialism or oil&Gas....
So,Christianity must be outlaw and banned immediately to stop mass killings for a fictious Prophet and Fictious religion...
What do you say?
I say you go home and sleep.... you are an old man, cant make fights no more. Rest in peace...
True Facts

Birmingham, UK

#19 Oct 27, 2011
I applaud the state of Israel for protecting its borders against Turks.

Israel has the right to do this just like all other nations have this right.

Israel goes above and beyond to prevent loss of life to its enemies.

They send warnings and letters to prevent as much bloodshed as possible. But the news always seem to portray them as the agressors. Israel can get bombed/attacked many times and only when Israel finally retaliates back the whole world hears, look what horrible things they have done.
Erdogan is the proof of it, he brainwshed all Turks with his fanatism.

The incident was a set up orchistrated by Erdogan and Davutoglou no matter the loss of lifes involved.

On the Flotilla, Israel was defending itsself as its soldiers were being attacked.

The soldiers were there to search the ship for weapons. Now if the Turkish people on the ship had nothing to hide why were they attacking the soldiers?

If the soldiers did not defend themselves they would have been killed.

Then we, the world would have heard nothing about it.

I support Israel 100%

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#21 Oct 28, 2011
True Facts wrote:
Part1.
The Armenian ambassador to Britain on why he believes, nearly a century on, Turkey should admit to a genocide
Throughout the twentieth century to the present day there has not been any substantiated doubt about the character of the mass deportations, expropriation, abduction, torture, starvation and killings of millions of Armenians throughout Ottoman Turkey that started on a large scale in 1915 and carried onto 1923.
Centrally planned by the government of the day and meticulously executed by the huge machine of the state bureaucracy, army, police, hired gangs and - specially released for that purpose - criminals from prisons, the campaign had one clear aim expressly stated by the government in secret directives: to rid Anatolia of its indigenous Armenian population and settle the so –called ‘Armenian question’ for good.
An entire nation and its Christian culture were eliminated to secure a homogenous Turkish state on territories where Armenians had lived for many centuries.
Terms such as “genocide” or “ethnic cleansing” were not in circulation then, so Winston Churchill later referred to the 1915 massacre of 1.5 million Armenians as an “administrative holocaust”.
The Turkish authorities made no secret of the aim once it was achieved and other governments and nations have known the truth since. One of the early accounts of Armenian Genocide was published in 1916 in Britain.
The British Government at the time commissioned James Bryce and Arnold Toynbee to compile evidence on the events in Armenia. The subsequent report was printed in the British Parliamentary Blue Book series “The Treatment of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, 1915-1916”. The report leaves no doubt about what was taking place.
We the Turks and republic of Turkey Recognise the ""Armenian Genocide of The TRUTHS by lies"""
Please take notice...

hahahahahahahahaha

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#23 Oct 29, 2011
Armenian or LIAR-menian?

republic of Armenia or republic of Liar-menia?

Armenian Genocide or Liar-Menian Genocide of the Truths?

Hahahaha

238 Countries are wiping their azzez with Liar-menian BULLSHITS...

European Court of Justice rejects the applications of the Liar-menians two times with""No proofs no evidents just political bullshit""reasons..

heheheheheeh

We are in your DNAs,

Ofcourse you will have our coffee,salad,lokum and our balls in...
In the name of Justice

San Antonio, TX

#24 Oct 29, 2011
You all Turks, you 've lost so stop now or face absolute humiliation you cry for 9 non law abiding citizen and yet rejoice at the thousand syrian murdered in the pass odd month under the order of Assad.

You cry for the world does not agree with you and yet have not been forced to pay for your pass crime against humanity. now your persistence clearly bring to light your hand in the propaganda against Israel.

it is time to stop now before your nation thinks it is legal to turn to terror and use your government to carry them out.
Get your grip together...
LIAR TURKS

Lansing, MI

#27 Oct 30, 2011
Nice text here, Let's face it Erdogan by allowing, funding, and blessing the flotilla is a true accomplice of the death of those nine Islamoterrorists.
Again, Let's face it Erdogan wants to be the champion of the Arabic/Islam Middle-East.
Erdogan and his wife hate Israel and during the Davos summit he showed his true face: at that time Olmert was the prime minister and President Peres was speaking when Erdogan stood up, left full of rage.
Not let's face it Erdogan did everything to cut the ties.
I will never understand the Israelis why they had relationships with a genocidal people who never admitted their remorse or guilt toward the armenian people.
So, The Turks want the Palestinians to have a state but they don't want the Kurds to have theirs.
So, The Turks are the champions of bigotry and Erdogan is their god.

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#28 Oct 30, 2011
LIAR TURKS wrote:
Nice text here, Let's face it Erdogan by allowing, funding, and blessing the flotilla is a true accomplice of the death of those nine Islamoterrorists.
Again, Let's face it Erdogan wants to be the champion of the Arabic/Islam Middle-East.
Erdogan and his wife hate Israel and during the Davos summit he showed his true face: at that time Olmert was the prime minister and President Peres was speaking when Erdogan stood up, left full of rage.
Not let's face it Erdogan did everything to cut the ties.
I will never understand the Israelis why they had relationships with a genocidal people who never admitted their remorse or guilt toward the armenian people.
So, The Turks want the Palestinians to have a state but they don't want the Kurds to have theirs.
So, The Turks are the champions of bigotry and Erdogan is their god.
Israel will come to lick our azzez soon for their own security..

hehehe

Liar-menians done it heheh

Greeks are still licking with Southern Cypriots heheheheehehe

Tunusia will be ruled by the Quraan's principles and orders..

It is already same in Algeria...

It will be same in Libya soon,you should have heard the Council leader of Revolution.

It will be same in Egypt,"""Moslem Brothers""will support the Islamic Front in the free elections and they will have %55 of the votes..

Soon In Syria ,the People's dynamics with Western support will take Mr.Esed down and Shias will get the government by elections..

Same in Yemen.

Jordan is waiting UN Decision for Palestine State to uprise and unite with palestine&Gazze..

Jordan itself a real palestanian State and made in the lacratory after the 1ww.The real state will be ""Palestenian State"""

So;

What is Israel going to do?Will she nuke all Middle east?

Ofcourse not,if she does the other will nuke Israel to the Hell immediately.

Israel needs and non-arab,non-Irani,secular,dem ocratic,stae of Law...To stand up....

Do you know a state with largest and able army with 2Trillions of uSD GNP and 74.000.000 Population :)) hahhaahhaahahahaahahaahahahaha haah

Israel must come to kiss our azzes as soon as she can...The Countdown is veryfast and Isarel loses time...

In Mavi Marmara barehanded Turks throvn off the board Israeli soldiers...

The ""very well armed,very well trained,very well experienced,very well-known commandos started to cry when They saw even ordinary Turks in front of them...

hehehehe

What would they do if they saw real Turkish soldiers instead of ordinary old Turks?

hahahahaha

Israel knows that it was a crime and a kind of ultimatum to attack a ship carries Turks and kill 9 Turks 72Miles away from the shore and in International waters .

They will pay first...

The other LOSERS CLUB MEMBERS like Liar-menians,Southern Cypriots and PKK Terrorists plus thief Greeks are not able to do anything to Turks and Turkey but always provoke Israel against the Turks..

But;
Israelis are not stupid like LOSERS CLUB MEMBERS,Greeks,Southern Cypriots,Liar-menians and PKK shits
Memory Refresher

Aurora, IL

#29 Oct 31, 2011
The only thing pre-meditated of this Turkish provocation, is the intent to hold hostage, to murder and to invoke Jihad on the Jewish people, until all Jews and their supporters are under the domination of Islam. Now that the Jihadists has convinced the 'progressives' that the Jews are the bogyman, watch how all the lemmings, with their new obsession, unleashes the Jihadists on the whole world.

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