Turkey is a poor third world state and is no match for Greece

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Ramanos

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Turks need to understand that they are a poor , backward, third world country and are no match for Greece.
Every time I hear how Turks here in Canada , by some reason want to compare their country to Greece.
I can only laugh when I hear that. Greece is a developed first world country comparible to nations such as Italy and Germany. Every year thousands poor Turkish immigrants run from their country to European countries(some come to Greece). Here they get a dirty jobs, and payed really low money. But even that is better than live in Turkey.
Soon Constatinople would go back to Greece. You know how? We dont need even come to liberate it by military force. Turks of Constantinoples themselves would prefer to be part of Greece and part of European Union than live in backward, third world, corrupt, Turkey.
There are going to be many changes
hmm

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Jul 17, 2008
 
i thought republic of azerbijan were more poor than turk, oh well.

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And thats why Greece is afraid of Turkiye?

We all above the Greece either on army compare or the civilization...

Our roots have more historical base cultural treasure than you Greeks have

And the army...TSK (Turk Silahli Kuvvetleri) says it will take less than 10 hours to replace the flag in Athens...

You got many reasons to be afraid of us and to hate...
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RAMANOS, I've had enough of your sarcastic and racilist comments.You must make your mind.But I want to say something you RAMANOS

Why do you live in Canada? Why do you get back to your civiziled and modern country?

You told that "Soon Constatinople would go back to Greece" wake up my friend !!! You are late to work.

There is no doubt about it , Greece had alrealdy been corrupted and used as a PUPPET and MENDICANT for many years during the World Wars I-II by Europan Countries.You know this very well.
ROMANOS

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I live in Canada because I have been born here.

When I am telling Constantinople would go back to Greece, I am giving you reosonable and logical explanation for this, unlike your Turkish friend Canis Lupus.

Turks of Constantinople themselves would prefer to be part of first world greece and EU, than live in third world, human-right abusing Turkey. Isn't that reosonable and logical?

Look on Cyprus, majority of Cypriot Turks of the illegal Republic of Northern Cyprus want to reunite with Cyprus. Because they want to live in a normal civilized country, and not mainland Turkish occupied illegal territory,
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Antis — QuiŠk LiŠk My SliŠk PriŠk...

All antis hurry & lick my diŠk while it's long and hard...
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[quote]All antis hurry & lick my diŠk while it's long and hard...[/quote]

Turkish intelligence...
Serkan

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Ramanos wrote:
Soon Constatinople would go back to Greece. You know how? We dont need even come to liberate it by military force. Turks of Constantinoples themselves would prefer to be part of Greece and part of European Union than live in backward, third world, corrupt, Turkey.
There are going to be many changes
Yet, there is an algebraic question. Can 15 million Turks of Istanbul be part of Greece with 12 million people?? Or could it be the other way around??

Serkan

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ROMANOS wrote:
ORHUN

Turks of Constantinople themselves would prefer to be part of first world greece and EU, than live in third world, human-right abusing Turkey. Isn't that reosonable and logical?
I am a Turk of "Constantinople" as you described it, and I do not want to be part of Greece or EU. And I know maybe 1000 Turks of "Constantinopole" from my family and friends, and I know of noone who would wanna be part of Greece.

Maybe your argument is not so logical. Maybe you should refer to some polls and check whether what you think is really the view of Turks of "Constantinopole"..
Serkan

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It is a fact that Turkey has a smaller GDP per capita than Greece. Yet, Turkey is VERY far from being a poor country. It is classified as one of the upper-middle class countries economically. And more importantly, Turkey is growing very fast and closing the gap with Greece. While the growth rate in nominal GDP of Greece hardly fare 3%, Turkey on avergae grows by 6% annually.
ORHUN

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Jul 19, 2008
 
ROMANOS wrote:
ORHUN
I live in Canada because I have been born here.
When I am telling Constantinople would go back to Greece, I am giving you reosonable and logical explanation for this, unlike your Turkish friend Canis Lupus.
Turks of Constantinople themselves would prefer to be part of first world greece and EU, than live in third world, human-right abusing Turkey. Isn't that reosonable and logical?
Look on Cyprus, majority of Cypriot Turks of the illegal Republic of Northern Cyprus want to reunite with Cyprus. Because they want to live in a normal civilized country, and not mainland Turkish occupied illegal territory,
Okey My friend I read your what you all wrote.

Since , why do you perefer to live in your own country instead of living in Canada ? I am waiting for an explanation.
Romanos

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Jul 19, 2008
 
Serkan

You live in Pitsburgh, your 1000 friends and relatives might live in Constantinople, own a grocery store or shish kebab restaurant, drive a Mercedes-Benz and think that life is wonderful. But what about those millions of poor Turks who can afford medicine or normal food, who by thousands leave Turkey every year to Europe. Greece has almost as high GDP per capita as Germany.
Also are you gonna deny that if you put a democratic referendum majority of Cypriot Turks would chose to reunite with Cyprus as a part of EU, and kick out mainland turkish military

Orhun
I have born in Canada, and I am Canadian citizen not a citizen of Greece.
Serkan

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Jul 19, 2008
 
Romanos wrote:
Serkan
You live in Pitsburgh, your 1000 friends and relatives might live in Constantinople, own a grocery store or shish kebab restaurant, drive a Mercedes-Benz and think that life is wonderful. But what about those millions of poor Turks who can afford medicine or normal food, who by thousands leave Turkey every year to Europe. Greece has almost as high GDP per capita as Germany.
Also are you gonna deny that if you put a democratic referendum majority of Cypriot Turks would chose to reunite with Cyprus as a part of EU, and kick out mainland turkish military
Orhun
I have born in Canada, and I am Canadian citizen not a citizen of Greece.
Do not disrupt the conversation. My friends/relatives are hardly driving Merecedes. And that is hardly the case for everybody in Greece as well.

Yes, Greece has more GDP per capita than Turkey. Yet, still there are poor people in Greece as in Germany. Maybe less than Turkey, but my objection was against an effort to depict Turkey as a third World country (which is not true). Turkey is a developing country, classified as developed country by CIA Worldbook, and its economy is growing very fast, closing the gap with EU average.

I live in Pittsburgh but I will return to my home city, i.e. Istanbul, in a couple of years. I have some things that I have to complete before moving back.

There is a lot of prospects to make money for smart people in Turkey. That is also one reason Greek businessmen also are eager to take their share from Turkey's growing economy. Greeks bought a Turkish bank, Finansbank, for 2.7 billion dollars. Finansbank was hardly in top 10 in banking business in Turkey. I think you should think about why they paid such a high amount for this bank. Do you think they would do it if they did not see great prospects in Turkish market??

I don't know how TCs would decide about what you propose. There was a vote about Annan plan, and they voted for unification, yet it was declined by GCs, not them. But I am not from Cyprus, and I am not aware of the wishes of TRNC's citizens.
Romanos

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Serkan

Turkey will reach Greece in developement and GDP per capita, just when Nicaragua will reach Unites States, and Nepal will reach Japan.

I dont see that hapenning even in not so near future.

The parts of Turkey are so backward and underdeveloped. I watched documentary about eastern turkey, I saw there a man who burned dried cow dump, to get warm in winter. That kinda backwardity in Europe could be seen...well maybe only in Albania.
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Romanos wrote:
Serkan
Turkey will reach Greece in developement and GDP per capita, just when Nicaragua will reach Unites States, and Nepal will reach Japan.
I dont see that hapenning even in not so near future.
The parts of Turkey are so backward and underdeveloped. I watched documentary about eastern turkey, I saw there a man who burned dried cow dump, to get warm in winter. That kinda backwardity in Europe could be seen...well maybe only in Albania.
Well Mr Greek,

You like it or not, Turkey is developing very fast. I know it is a pain for your arschloch, but the numbers are speaking differently than what your heart wishes for.

I hope that Albania will experience a similar growth as Turkey and Greeks like you would keep suffering in pain and envy.
Romanos

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Jul 20, 2008
 
No my friend believe it or not I would like to see Albania and Turkey to be little more developed, then at least I wont see thousands of Albanian and Turkish(believe it or not), uneducated, barbaric, unhygienic criminal-minded immigrants coming to Greece, spreading and spreading poverty and crime in my beloved country.
Romeo

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Romanos ur a dumbass and disgrace to the good greeks. Let me educate your hairy ass

Turkeys economy,

GDP (PPP)$941.6 billion[1](2008 est.)(15 highest GDP in the world.)

Turkey's per-capita GDP places it among the upper-middle income countries.

Turkish economy has expanded strongly, registering growth rates of 8.9% and 7.4% for the 2004 and 2005 fiscal years, respectively.

Turkey ranked twenty-first worldwide in terms of industrial production output in 2005

Turkey's Vestel Electronics is the largest TV producer in Europe, accounting for a quarter of all TV sets manufactured and sold on the continent.[25] By January 2005, Vestel and its rival Turkish electronics and white goods brand BEKO accounted for more than half of all TV sets manufactured in Europe

Turkey also has a large and growing automotive industry, which produced 1,024,987 motor vehicles in 2006[28], ranking as the 6th largest automotive producer in Europe; behind Germany, france, italy and UK

Turkey ranked seventh worldwide in terms of agricultural production output in 2005.

As of March 2007, Turkey is the world's largest producer of hazelnut, fig, apricot, cherry, quince and pomegranate; the second largest producer of watermelon, cucumber and chickpea; the third largest producer of tomato, eggplant, green pepper, lentil and pistacchio; the fourth largest producer of onion and olive; the fifth largest producer of sugar beet; the sixth largest producer of tobacco, tea and apple; the seventh largest producer of cotton and barley; the eighth largest producer of almond; the ninth largest producer of wheat, rye and grapefruit, and the tenth largest producer of lemon.

The Turkish construction and contracting industry is one of the leading, most competitive and dynamic construction/contracting industries in the world. A total of 22 Turkish construction/contracting companies were selected for the Top International Contractors List prepared by the Engineering News-Record in 2007; which made the Turkish construction/contracting industry the world's 3rd largest in that year, ranking behind those of the USA and China.

Tourism sector

Tourism is one of the most dynamic and fastest developing sectors in Turkey. According to travel agencies TUI AG and Thomas Cook, 11 of the 100 best hotels of the world are located in Turkey. In 2005, there were 24,124,501 visitors to the country, who contributed $18.2 billion to Turkey's revenues, with an average expenditure of $679 per tourist. In 2007, the number of visitors rose to 27,214,988, who contributed $18.5 billion to Turkey's revenues. Over the years, Turkey has emerged as a popular tourist destination for many Europeans, often competing with Greece, Italy and Spain.

Natural resources

Turkey ranks tenth in the world in terms of the diversity of minerals produced in the country. Around 60 different minerals are currently produced in Turkey. The richest mineral deposits in the country are boron salts and Turkey’s reserves amount to 72% of the world’s total.



According to Forbes magazine, Istanbul, Turkey's financial capital, had a total of 35 billionaires as of March 2008 (up from 25 in 2007), ranking 4th in the world behind Moscow (74 billionaires), New York City (71 billionaires) and London (36 billionaires), while ranking above Hong Kong (30 billionaires), Los Angeles (24 billionaires), Mumbai (20 billionaires), San Francisco (19 billionaires), Dallas (15 billionaires) and Tokyo (15 billionaires)

Haha Imbarrassed much? what was that u didnt know and u were uneducated and u apologise for being a loser that just brought shame up on urself? And from now on you wil research before jumping into the subjects u have idea of? Thats cool, continue living like a moron! Will do our best to educate u
;)

All the information are from here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Turke...
Romeo

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"I live in Canada because I have been born here."

You were born there becaues your family flee to canada for a better life... your nation might not be a third world, doesnt mean al the greeks are rich, greece has over 9% below poverty which causes unbalanced living standards in Greece....

"When I am telling Constantinople would go back to Greece, I am giving you reosonable and logical explanation for this
Turks of Constantinople themselves would prefer to be part of first world greece and EU, than live in third world, human-right abusing Turkey. Isn't that reosonable and logical?"

First of al Turkey isnt a third world country. Instead of debating with us search it on net, its not hard to go on google and type 3rd world countries. Sometimes you shuld leave your imaginary logics to the turth.. North Cypruses economy is boosting up so high to meet the other half of Cypruses economy. And unlike the greeks, turkish part of cyprus is fully dependant to Turkey as EU helps the greek part of cyprus. North cyprus occupies smaller land than Greeks which means they have less natural resources, how is that for a logic?????

Second of al u must of mistaken our human-rights with an arabic country. Turkey isnt a islamic nation its democratic. You shuld know the meaning as the word democracy was created by the greeks "democ (human) racy(rights). Which i admit god bless the greeks for that.

Woman have equal rights, Voilence is illegal and Turkey even has gay prades each year.... You are living in a fairy land, wake up??

"Look on Cyprus, majority of Cypriot Turks of the illegal Republic of Northern Cyprus want to reunite with Cyprus. Because they want to live in a normal civilized country, and not mainland Turkish occupied illegal territory."

No im a cypriot, and the reason we voted to reunite is cause we are over the war and we agree on peace.. Because we love the greeks and we wish there was never a Turko-Greek war. We arent brainwashed with the bad past, but more looking forward for brighter future.

I guess your family has brain washed you with wrong answers and poisoned past, why dont you try living in 2008? You'll get use to it im sure..
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I cant get enough of imbarassing this idiot.

uneducated, barbaric, unhygienic criminal-minded immigrants coming to Greece, spreading and spreading poverty and crime in my beloved country.

There are more greeks in turkey than turks in greece.... and beloved country? Arent you a citizen of canada and not of greece? If you arent gona adapt to where you migrate why dont you get the f%ck out of canada? They dont want a greek cheer leader there, they want canadians not immigrants obsessed with their own country.. Im sure they told u that before... LOL
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Ramanos wrote:
Turks need to understand that they are a poor , backward, third world country and are no match for Greece.
Every time I hear how Turks here in Canada , by some reason want to compare their country to Greece.
I can only laugh when I hear that. Greece is a developed first world country comparible to nations such as Italy and Germany. Every year thousands poor Turkish immigrants run from their country to European countries(some come to Greece). Here they get a dirty jobs, and payed really low money. But even that is better than live in Turkey.
Soon Constatinople would go back to Greece. You know how? We dont need even come to liberate it by military force. Turks of Constantinoples themselves would prefer to be part of Greece and part of European Union than live in backward, third world, corrupt, Turkey.
There are going to be many changes
Quite lame, and only reveals the inferiority complex felt about the Turks and Turkey.

Why:

1. Turkey has never been in the block of III. World Countries during the Cold War.
2. Turkey has never been a colony of the Western Powers, so has never been subject to colonial plunder, cultural exploitations and genocides.
3. Turkey never experienced famine even though many I. World countries suffered from such problems over the last several centuries.
4. Turks were invited to Europe after the WWII due to shortage of skilled and unskilled labor, not as a consequence of some colonial relationship.
5. Turkey is not deemed as poor or backward by any international entity dealing with the issue. Turkey is the 15th largest economy in the world, and per capita in come in Turkey is higher than some of the EU members, such as Bulgaria and Romania.
6. Turkey is one of the top 20 industrial countries in the world, and its exports of manufactured goods amount more than USD 100 billion as of 2007.
7. Turkey is one of the top 10 tourist destinations of the world, and ranks over Greece in terms of number of visitors and income.
8. Turkey is the top 10 producer in various agricultural products including tomatoes, cherry, olive, hazelnut, wheat, and Turkey is one of the few countries in the world which is self sufficient in terms of food and water supplies.
9. I am resident of Istanbul, and &#305; think your suggestion about Istanbul being part of Greece is a funny joke. Why? Greece could be a part of Istanbul, not vice versa since Istanbul is bigger, richer and more populated than Greece.

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