Does Turkey hate America?

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“You get back what you give!”

Since: Mar 07

Barnesville, OH

#1 Mar 27, 2007
Im just wondering what turkish people think of americans and christians. I have a good friend that lives in Istanbul and know alot of turkish culture and how SHE feels, but how do you all feel? Is it safe to travel there? I know turks are very hospitable people.
Ararat

Norwalk, CA

#2 Mar 27, 2007
Dear cntrygrl,

Turks are nice people.
The government is subsidized by the US big-time, and will not dare to do anything like harming an American tourist, since there is a lot at stake.
As a matter of fact, the Turkish goevrnment kisses major US ass, because the US keeps the Turkish gevernment sheltered from the pressures of all the European countries to admit the inhumane act of the Armenian Genocide which happened between 1915 and 1918.

Have fun!
Corrector

Sakarya, Turkey

#3 Mar 27, 2007
Yes Turks re really very hospitable people and it is ofcourse safe to travel here Turkıye don2t be late!

And enjoy the open air museum 5000 years history sun, sea, and delecious Turkish kitchen. Don't msii to eat fish in near the natural sea channel (bosphorus) in Istanbul,

For Armenian Genocide, do please know that Turks and Armenians lived in the east of Anatolia for about 1000 years (older than USA)) but during WW1 they shooted Ottoman empire from behind! Ottoman government deported them out.
cntrygrl9 wrote:
Im just wondering what turkish people think of americans and christians. I have a good friend that lives in Istanbul and know alot of turkish culture and how SHE feels, but how do you all feel? Is it safe to travel there? I know turks are very hospitable people.
ararat in London

Wrexham, UK

#4 Mar 27, 2007
cntrygrl9 wrote:
Im just wondering what turkish people think of americans and christians. I have a good friend that lives in Istanbul and know alot of turkish culture and how SHE feels, but how do you all feel? Is it safe to travel there? I know turks are very hospitable people.
Turks have to re-write their history books and their ancestors have genocide blood on their hands.
Yes, today , some of them are very hospitable but some are equally nasty, specially if you step on their tails. They admit real turks have grey wolf genes in their blood.
But the land they live in is beautiful. You will enjoy your holiday.

“You get back what you give!”

Since: Mar 07

Barnesville, OH

#5 Mar 27, 2007
Unfortunalty Im not going there cuz i dont have money to, but I have a friend who lives in istanbul an would someday like to visit her. We were pen pals when we were kids and reunited again after 7 years. You have nasty people everywhere,no?
Ararat

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Mar 27, 2007
Yes, there are nasty people everywhere. Turks are very hospitable in general.
genocidal maniac

Ankara, Turkey

#7 Mar 28, 2007
Ararat wrote:
Dear cntrygrl,
Turks are nice people.
The government is subsidized by the US big-time, and will not dare to do anything like harming an American tourist, since there is a lot at stake.
you are talking about animals?...they wont harm you muahahah...
Ararat wrote:
As a matter of fact, the Turkish goevrnment kisses major US ass, because the US keeps the Turkish gevernment sheltered from the pressures of all the European countries to admit the inhumane act of the Armenian Genocide which happened between 1915 and 1918.
Have fun!
that is thing we call deep perspective...that is so bec there never existed the thread of russia...and turks never be neigherbour with them...
no one needs help against islamizm...
all we have is arrogant armenians neigherbours dreaming to get our land by someway...
Adam

Ucklum, Sweden

#8 Mar 29, 2007
ararat in London;

Turks have wolf genes in their blood? heh heh, im Turkish and i never heard of that, mate.

As for the Turks hating Ámericans thing, its a myth i tell you.

For example, i DISagree withs some of US politics, BUt i still have a deep respect for her people and prefer mostly their way/style of life.

NATURALLY, in a country of perhaps 70+ millions, you are BOUND to find SOME people hating Americans (hmm... mostly our citizens with arabic origins, like turkish-palistinians or religious nut-jobs)

BUT these are just exceptions!

Turks are secular-capitalists and prefer the american way of life and freedom.(LOL but they should DEFINETLY give more freedom to their minorities when it comes to human rights and such),

thus; the intrsest in American culture and Americans in general.

Up until the last Iraqi war, the American popularity in Turkey was in a all-time high (heheh, almost), and DEFINETLY, after the war, it has changed to a degree.

BUT look at it from our side for once, we had a dangerous neighbor, a dictator, and thank goodness US got rid of him and had him put out of his misery, BUT than again, the country has fallen into a stasis of complete chaos, and now, according to general opinion in Turkey,,, its more dangerous than ever to itSELF AND to its neighbors.

And when people are wondering what is the reason for the current sutiation we are experiencing, who is respoinsible??

Well, unfortunately, the answer is USA.

Thw war has opened a rift bbetween the American and Turkish people indeed.

BUT; in the end;

we are both secularists,
we are both capitalists
we are both freedom lovers
we are both against religious extremists
we are both against terrorists (all the way from Bin Ladin to PKK, PS!!! Kurds are our BROTHERS, and should be treated equally in all respects!!(SAME goes for our *Armenian* Citizens, as well) NOT every Kurd is PKK, its just such a stupid misconception that some Turkish peeps have.)

As for what the Turks are thinking of Christians ? Not much to think, i guess.**To each to his own**,
for example, i am Turkish, BUT i DO NOT have a religion, meaning that i am NOT muslim, YET i have a profound RESPECT TO ALL RELIGIONS.

God dammit, really. Turks ARE NOT, I REPEAT; ARE NOT AS religious as you think, i even made a post about this somewhere else on this forum,
HELL, most of us ARENT EVEN MUSLIMS, but we are still counted as such, and well, honestly, we dont mind, but still.....

Its just that there is so much muslim hate right now, in the world, that it is easy and convinient to ''turk haters'' to paint as us religious extremists to degrade as as much as they can.

Far from thruth, my friends.

Peace!
Ararat

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Apr 3, 2007
genocidal maniac wrote:
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you are talking about animals?...they wont harm you muahahah...

all we have is arrogant armenians neigherbours dreaming to get our land by someway...
Dear Genocidal Maniac,
please tell me what thousands of Armenian Church ruins are doing in what you call "your" lands!
When in your history have you been Christians???
Don't you think that it ONLY makes sense that those lands used to belong to Armenia?

...& please answer my question with solid reasoning & not by using condescending tone or insulting language this time. This is a website for civilized people, not a toilet bowl to dump your waste in. Got it??

Cheers!
Genocidal Maniac

Ankara, Turkey

#10 Apr 3, 2007
Ararat wrote:
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Dear Genocidal Maniac,
please tell me what thousands of Armenian Church ruins are doing in what you call "your" lands!

When in your history have you been Christians???
Don't you think that it ONLY makes sense that those lands used to belong to Armenia?

...& please answer my question with solid reasoning & not by using condescending tone or insulting language this time. This is a website for civilized people, not a toilet bowl to dump your waste in. Got it??

Cheers!
if you start racizm we will go on;
personally my family stems from christian family from both side..
my %80 of relatives are still christian.

all records of my family history is kept since hundered of years we have no mongoliod or blood of invaders contrary to your claims...
and almost all anrtopological and genetic reseaches confirms that over %90 of population is local native population...
albeit still you dreaming deportation and maccacring these people..stop hatered; lands is yours and ours come and have a happy life you have a church here they are praying for peace but you for war and stupid border issues.
Ali Turkoglu

Leicester, UK

#11 Apr 3, 2007
Ararat wrote:
Dear cntrygrl,

Turks are nice people.
The government is subsidized by the US big-time, and will not dare to do anything like harming an American tourist, since there is a lot at stake.
As a matter of fact, the Turkish goevrnment kisses major US ass, because the US keeps the Turkish gevernment sheltered from the pressures of all the European countries to admit the inhumane act of the Armenian Genocide which happened between 1915 and 1918.

Have fun!
you have to politicize everything don`t you?..
this is not the way forward kid...this`ll only take you back to the 1915s..
be wise and change your attitude..remember..if allowed we can make armenia a heaven of the east within 3 years..we are already feeding ,clothing and looking after them-70pct of all goods sold in armenia is from Turkey!-so kid..be wise!
Ali Turkoglu

Leicester, UK

#12 Apr 3, 2007
cntrygrl9 wrote:
Im just wondering what turkish people think of americans and christians. I have a good friend that lives in Istanbul and know alot of turkish culture and how SHE feels, but how do you all feel? Is it safe to travel there? I know turks are very hospitable people.
Hi there...
35 million people per year cannot be wrong...
10.000 EY families already bought and settled in Turkey..they cannot be wrong..
The most important American military base in the world is in TR...they cannot be wrong...
we are the bridge between civilisations...they cannot be wrong..
shall i carry on..,
you`ll "be just fine!"as Ross says from Friends.
enjoy TR and tell us on your return.
Ali Turkoglu

Leicester, UK

#13 Apr 3, 2007
genocidal maniac wrote:
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you are talking about animals?...they wont harm you muahahah...

<quoted text>

that is thing we call deep perspective...that is so bec there never existed the thread of russia...and turks never be neigherbour with them...
no one needs help against islamizm...
all we have is arrogant armenians neigherbours dreaming to get our land by someway...
G.M.
to be honest ;you even scare the hell out of me Bro!...with that nick!
Ararat

Laguna Beach, CA

#14 Apr 5, 2007
Genocidal Maniac wrote:
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if you start racizm we will go on;
personally my family stems from christian family from both side..
my %80 of relatives are still christian.
all records of my family history is kept since hundered of years we have no mongoliod or blood of invaders contrary to your claims...
and almost all anrtopological and genetic reseaches confirms that over %90 of population is local native population...
albeit still you dreaming deportation and maccacring these people..stop hatered; lands is yours and ours come and have a happy life you have a church here they are praying for peace but you for war and stupid border issues.
DEar Genocidal Maniac,
please present me with a reference for your claim of native people with Christian backgrounds. I am certain that the researcher MUST have mentioned the NAME of those people.

Sincerely,
Ararat
Ararat

Laguna Beach, CA

#15 Apr 5, 2007
Ali Turkoglu wrote:
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you have to politicize everything don`t you?..
this is not the way forward kid...this`ll only take you back to the 1915s..
be wise and change your attitude..remember..if allowed we can make armenia a heaven of the east within 3 years..we are already feeding ,clothing and looking after them-70pct of all goods sold in armenia is from Turkey!-so kid..be wise!
Dear Ali,
Not everything, but I can not help it if the question is related to politics. What makes a country touristic? Political stability & safety. What makes a country safe? Other political conditions and contingencies. In this case, the US help is like a bloodline to Turkey. Like it or not, it is a FACT.

Also, I am verfy happy that Turkey is trading foods with Armenia, but remember that it is JUST business, which means that they are also getting something in return (money or other goods). So do not portray it as if Turkey is doing Armenia a favor PLEASE...

The genocide issue, however, remains DENIED by Turkey, again with the support of the US. That is also an undeniable fact.

Sincerely,
Ararat
kahan

Ankara, Turkey

#16 Apr 6, 2007
Ararat wrote:
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DEar Genocidal Maniac,
please present me with a reference for your claim of native people with Christian backgrounds. I am certain that the researcher MUST have mentioned the NAME of those people.
Sincerely,
Ararat
these reseachers are not rubbish paper reseachers like you but reseacher of science of genetics...
i which you know how to google...
if you like type:
"genetics of anatolian population"
"genetics of caucausion population"
Devinim

Balikesir, Turkey

#17 Apr 6, 2007
Dear Ararat,

I am an engineer from Turkey. Even I don't agree with your opinions, I still respect you, just because of being an Armenian, a Christian and the most important thing, a human. As some of the Turkish people declared here, Armenians and Turks lived together nearly a hundred years.

You know, the governments make wrong decisions that cause all people in the country suffer. Ottoman Empire made the wrong decision, joined the World War 1 as allies of Germany. In the heat of the war, the missionaires and secret agents of the enemies tried their best to convince the minorities to fight against Turks to get their independence. And one of the minorities was the Armenians, who were living peacefully with us many years in the eastern Turkey.

My ancestors are from the eastern Turkey, Van, they were all living with your ancestors in peace. But the hatebreeders from outside forces & enemies made us fight each other. Your people were killing us, we had to defend ourselves.

Those who could not defend their women and children, send them away from Van. A part of the Turks headed north to Trabzon and other part headed south to Mersin and Adana. But others who couldn't escape, tried their best to defend their lands. Then the Ottoman Government made a decision of deportation of the Armenians.

In the heat of this fight, many people, Turks and Armenians suffered from diseases and starvation. But the casualties were not the signs of genocide, this cannot be identified a genocide when same amount of people from both of the natinons suffered and died.

There have to be a national independence plan and national borders, which were determined on "Misak-i Milli". We just defended our lands, we did not wanted people to die.

But the majority of the people in the world are made believe there was a genocide. Many of our neighbour countries' children are still educated against Turkish people. My people are known as horrible people by considerable amount of people in other countries.

Even all of these, I and my nation is not barbarian, we are not horrible people, we respect people, their culture and languages from all nations. I am proud of being a Turk. I just want other people to try searching other sources of information against my country, our people, our culture and history. Because most of the information are subjective information against Turkey.
Ararat

South San Francisco, CA

#18 Apr 6, 2007
kahan wrote:
<quoted text>
these reseachers are not rubbish paper reseachers like you but reseacher of science of genetics...
i which you know how to google...
if you like type:
"genetics of anatolian population"
"genetics of caucausion population"
Dear kahan,
I DO know how to google!
However, I wish you knew what a reference means. It means the exact citation for the official article that was publilshed. Googling could give hyou viable as well as unreliable references!
Sincerely,
Ararat
Ararat

South San Francisco, CA

#19 Apr 6, 2007
Devinim wrote:
Dear Ararat,
I am an engineer from Turkey. Even I don't agree with your opinions, I still respect you, just because of being an Armenian, a Christian and the most important thing, a human. As some of the Turkish people declared here, Armenians and Turks lived together nearly a hundred years.
You know, the governments make wrong decisions that cause all people in the country suffer. Ottoman Empire made the wrong decision, joined the World War 1 as allies of Germany. In the heat of the war, the missionaires and secret agents of the enemies tried their best to convince the minorities to fight against Turks to get their independence. And one of the minorities was the Armenians, who were living peacefully with us many years in the eastern Turkey.
My ancestors are from the eastern Turkey, Van, they were all living with your ancestors in peace. But the hatebreeders from outside forces & enemies made us fight each other. Your people were killing us, we had to defend ourselves.
Those who could not defend their women and children, send them away from Van. A part of the Turks headed north to Trabzon and other part headed south to Mersin and Adana. But others who couldn't escape, tried their best to defend their lands. Then the Ottoman Government made a decision of deportation of the Armenians.
In the heat of this fight, many people, Turks and Armenians suffered from diseases and starvation. But the casualties were not the signs of genocide, this cannot be identified a genocide when same amount of people from both of the natinons suffered and died.
There have to be a national independence plan and national borders, which were determined on "Misak-i Milli". We just defended our lands, we did not wanted people to die.
But the majority of the people in the world are made believe there was a genocide. Many of our neighbour countries' children are still educated against Turkish people. My people are known as horrible people by considerable amount of people in other countries.
Even all of these, I and my nation is not barbarian, we are not horrible people, we respect people, their culture and languages from all nations. I am proud of being a Turk. I just want other people to try searching other sources of information against my country, our people, our culture and history. Because most of the information are subjective information against Turkey.
Dear Devinim,

Thanks for sharing your opinion with me. As you said earlier, our ideologies on the genocide issue are in conflict. What I do agree with is your statement of the Armenian and Turkish people having lived peacefully like brothers.
What I would like you to understand is that I do not have anything against any person. It is the governments that make the people suffer.
what did iGerman people have against Jewish people? Nothing. It was the Nazi government that oreganized the Jewish massacre.

The question that I have for you is the following: Do you think that a Christian defenseless, and unarmed minority woulod pose such a serious threat against the Ottoman Empire, that the authorities would have to kill them in order to restore peace? & How about the women and children? How about the Aremenian women who were raped and then killed? Was the rape a necessarfy step to restore peace????

Sincerely,
Ararat (ARARAT: THE EVER-ARMENIAN MOUNTAIN!)

“You get back what you give!”

Since: Mar 07

Barnesville, OH

#20 Apr 6, 2007
I hate seeing people on here arguing. I just wanted to know how turks feel about the people of the USA cuz our government doesnt neccasarily reflect the people's opinion on things.

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