ISTANBUL: The Armenian issue of 1915, Turkish politics and Israel

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Today's Zaman, Turkey April 11 2013 The Armenian issue of 1915, Turkish politics and Israel by Ihsan Yilmaz I am in Salzburg, Austria, for a week as an Erasmus visiting professor.

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Dander

Sydney, Australia

#1 Apr 14, 2013
This Ihsan Yilmaz must be an Armenian!
He talks almost like Dander the TR citizen Armenian.
Erdogan vs Zionism

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Apr 14, 2013
Perhaps that is why Erdogan is calling Zionism a crime against humanity - it is in the initial stages of Turkey recognizing the Armenian Genocide.
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#3 Apr 15, 2013
To be honest this is quite a factual article ,one that simply tells the issues as they were handled in the past and even now.I agree that we may apologise for massacres of Armenians-not a genocide,never!-and fine give them Turkish passports-but take the one out of Dander!-as for the properties,unworkable as the ownership has been far too complicated now but probably some sort of compensation could be tabled...
But who can guarantee these people shall not try and divide TR again,why should we also pay for the mistakes of the Ottomans who oppressed Turks too-and now they are tryiong to have a political comeback after Erdogan`s recital for them in London-tragedy if it happens as Ottomans only worried about themselves and nothing else ,we certainly don`t want them back.
In short,definitely an interesting article that can open up possibilities.
I still don`t want people like Dander and the rest of the Glendale Diaspora in TR...they are corrupt to the core embezzellers who robbed the Ottoman treasury dry .
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#5 Apr 15, 2013
Kumbara Ali
did you learn the facts about the Yahudi Ester Bolugu?
Merak etme seni de adam sinifina sokariz yakinda.

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#6 Apr 15, 2013
Dander wrote:
Kumbara Ali
did you learn the facts about the Yahudi Ester Bolugu?
Merak etme seni de adam sinifina sokariz yakinda.
SEND YOUR EMAIL TO THE MUSEUM
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#7 Apr 15, 2013
Dander wrote:
Kumbara Ali
did you learn the facts about the Yahudi Ester Bolugu?

Merak etme seni de adam sinifina sokariz yakinda.
postami okuyup anlamamakta niye diretiyorsun pis kefere..?
isine geleni hafizana alip,gelmeyeni kendin gibi firlatiyorsun cirkin ermeni.
bu arada adamligi filan agzina alma hic yakismiyor ve anlamini da rencide ediyorsun ancak,sen zaten rencide olmussun di mi ne farkeder ki.ne demisler eskiler; yurruuuuu,kereste muduru! sizde hep yurumussunuz,hala da yurumeye devam da, direksiyon yanlis.
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#8 Apr 15, 2013
OKUZ
is scared to send his TAT BS to Dignified Turks like Ihsan Yilmaz.
And The rest of the world treats it as Junk Mail!
Kangal is a more dignified Turk than OKUZ.
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#9 Apr 15, 2013
Dander wrote:
This Ihsan Yilmaz must be an Armenian!
He talks almost like Dander the TR citizen Armenian.
Sen niye hala bizim pasaportumuzu geri vermiyosun ,Dingil?
bir defa o pasaport ne eline ne ustune yakisiyor..ayrica bizi de senin gibi sahtekarlardan zannedip hor goruyorlar..hep diyorum vallahi bizim medicare,genoshite gibi abuk sabuk uc kagitlarimiz yok ama ayni pasaport, iste kurunun yaninda yas da maalesef kul oluyor..su sarkik sarkisyana da bir turlu yaranamadin gitti ki sana o muz cumhuriyetinin pacavrasini bagislar belki diye ama o bile seni istemiyor belli,sen de "casus belli" gecinemeyip gidiyoruz iste.

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#11 Apr 15, 2013
Every country made ethnic cleansing at the past. And Turkey and Armenia and Azerbaijan, and Bulgaria and Greece and South Cyprus.

Is very big plus for Turkey to recognize this, and to ask forgive and let the humans to return.

And need immediately to open borders with Armenia and south Cyprus.
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#12 Apr 15, 2013
CANNONBALLER wrote:
<quoted text>
postami okuyup anlamamakta niye diretiyorsun pis kefere..?
isine geleni hafizana alip,gelmeyeni kendin gibi firlatiyorsun cirkin ermeni.
bu arada adamligi filan agzina alma hic yakismiyor ve anlamini da rencide ediyorsun ancak,sen zaten rencide olmussun di mi ne farkeder ki.ne demisler eskiler; yurruuuuu,kereste muduru! sizde hep yurumussunuz,hala da yurumeye devam da, direksiyon yanlis.
Yahudi gotu yalakasi Kumbara Ali
Ester boluguyle arkadasliga devam!
Eminim korkundan acamadin Ester linkini.
TRUTHlover

Satu Mare, Romania

#13 Apr 15, 2013
well overall this guy said what the majority of the Turks think and agree too ....

however the devil is in the detail .... Mr Yilmaz does not mention 'genocide'.... far more he clearly indicates that the Armenians half a century before 1915 already started with revolts and attacks to carve out themselves a large piece of the Ottoman Empire to establish their 'Greater Armenia'.... on the cost of the local Muslims ...

sorry for the massacres ... yes of course ... there is nothing to deny ... but NO GENOCIDE !!!!

and before Turkey says sorry (apologizes)... the Armenians have to accept their 'share of the blame/guilt'....

because only when they accept their share ... then it becomes clear there was no genocide intention ! Therefore the ARMENIANS DENY their own massacres and killings ....

I can live with this Prof's presentation ... I even like it ...

cheers,
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#14 Apr 15, 2013
Once this Prof gathers his courage to spell out the Jihad declaration, it will all become crystal clear for all, how the massacres towards the Christians put out as open targets in TEHCIR caravans were encouraged in the name of Allah and Muhammed.
It will also explain why those Armenians like my great grand father who were exempt from Tehcir were massacred for refusing to convert to Islam.
It is unrealistic to expect miracles at first go from a denial paralyzed patient.
But we will encourage them to try harder.
TRUTHlover

Satu Mare, Romania

#15 Apr 15, 2013
good on you ... just try harder .... spend another couple of 100.000.000 $ for your propaganda ... when in Armenia people dying of famine ...

what a great achievement ....

cheers,
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#16 Apr 15, 2013
TRUTHlover wrote:
good on you ... just try harder .... spend another couple of 100.000.000 $ for your propaganda ... when in Armenia people dying of famine ...
what a great achievement ....
cheers,
If Armenia is dying of famine then your central asian brothers are already dead and burried.
I will get some Halva made to their souls.
TRUTHlover

Satu Mare, Romania

#17 Apr 15, 2013
Dander wrote:
<quoted text>If Armenia is dying of famine then your central asian brothers are already dead and burried.
I will get some Halva made to their souls.
They are not my brothers ... but anyway...God bless you ....

Don't believe what I say ... listen just to your own news and the help request of your brothers ....

Cheers,
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#18 Apr 15, 2013
TRUTHlover wrote:
<quoted text>
They are not my brothers ... but anyway...God bless you ....
Don't believe what I say ... listen just to your own news and the help request of your brothers ....
Cheers,
Who is your fkn brothers?
Or rather, who is paying you to lick so much IT remnant shit?
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#20 Apr 16, 2013
Dander wrote:
<quoted text>Yahudi gotu yalakasi Kumbara Ali
Ester boluguyle arkadasliga devam!
Eminim korkundan acamadin Ester linkini.
Kiro Dingo...
Linkler olmasaydi acaba napardiniz bilmiyorum ha...100 senedir o follos kestanenizi yirttinz ama hala da huysuz katirlar gibi anirmaya
devam ediyorsunuz ama ne duyaniniz var ne dinleyeniniz,ancak bizler icin iyi eglence olmussunuz..devam devam.yirtinmalariniz ninni gibi sakinlestiriyor bizleri..hele bi de Turk dudugunu ufleyip uzun hava filan caldiniz mi tam keyif valla...
neyse ben fazla rahatsiz etmiyeyim,agac tepelerinde takilip kalmis daha nice maymun kardeslerinden var ilgi istiyorlar,bizde veriyoruz napalim.
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#21 Apr 16, 2013
Dander wrote:
<quoted text>If Armenia is dying of famine then your central asian brothers are already dead and burried.
I will get some Halva made to their souls.
Hey Dingo..
some questions for you and your lot;
1-why do you shite on the plate you eat from-USA Medicare Fraud by Armenian Chemists.
2-same question above-Ottomans employed you as their trustees and you back-stabbed them at the first opportunity.
3-why can you not be trusted by even your own people-diospora
steals from your own kind under fakse pretences.

and what are you doing in Australia to undermine their people?just a thought.

any answers?..Please no BS though and no counter questions as that doesn`t answer the above.
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#22 Apr 16, 2013
Kumbara
Did yo learn about Ester MULE regiments of your Jewis Brothers?
Abdul did not sell it but the IT gave it away with a FAKE JIHAD.
And you are still in pain with a GENOCIDE legacy as a result.

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#23 Apr 17, 2013
Dander wrote:
<quoted text>Who is your fkn brothers?
Or rather, who is paying you to lick so much IT remnant shit?
Hey Donald Duck ,

Do you also believe the lie Museum Documents?

The Secretary General of the Council of Europe Thorbjrn Jagland is in YEREVAN GENOCIDE(!)MUSEUM

-Good Morning President Sarkissian

-Good Morning Mr.Jagland,

-A very good Museum

-Thank you Mr.secretary General,

-Do you have any original document of the Armenian Genocide?

-er..er...rr himmmm yes but not exactly e..ee.eee..

-What do you mean Mr.Sarkissian?

-Yes we have original documents of the 1890-1915 but they all written with BIC Ball Pens...

-Heheheheh Mr.Sarkissian Are you making fool of me, Ball Pens have been invented in 1945..

-Yes Mr.Secretary but all we have is here...

-Hehehehehe Mr.Sarkissian,where is the exit please show me..Hey Protocol Director don't forget to take our flowers back and tear the last paper of the Museum Book immediately..

-But ..Sir..Mr.Secretary General heyyy shihihits...hoop..eeee stop..where are you going?

-Fcuk it..Mr.President fcuk it.......where is my car,take me to the airport....

Thorbjrn Jagland is a fair man....

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