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Erdogan's Refusal to Learn the Lessons of Crimes Against Humanity

There are 103 comments on the usc.edu story from Mar 17, 2013, titled Erdogan's Refusal to Learn the Lessons of Crimes Against Humanity. In it, usc.edu reports that:

Erdogan's Refusal to Learn the Lessons of Crimes Against Humanity http://massispost.com/archives/8193 Updated: March 14, 2013 By Hrayr S. Karagueuzian Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, speaking at the 5th Global Forum of the United Nations Alliance of Civilizations in Vienna on February 27, 2013 said: `The world should consider Islamophobia just ... (more)

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Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#1 Mar 18, 2013
Turkey committed the first crime against humanity in the 20th century. The Armenian Genocide from 1915 to 1922. The Allies knew about it, when it was happening, but their strategy was the same one during World War II. "Stop the war, and the massacres will stop." But by that time 1.5 million Armenians were dead. To add insult to injury, the present-day Republic of Turkey refuses to recognize it, say it happened during the Ottoman Empire years. But nations recognizing their genocidal past, does not make them weak, it makes them strong for admiration. Turkey is gaining strength by seeking peace with the Kurds, but it can gain even more strength, by seeking past peace with the Armenians.
Truth

UK

#2 Mar 18, 2013
America refuses to recognize the massacre of the Red Indians . The killing of the Native Americans is crimes against humanity .
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#3 Mar 18, 2013
Truth wrote:
America refuses to recognize the massacre of the Red Indians . The killing of the Native Americans is crimes against humanity .
But the United States very much does. There is not a special day to commemorate it, but there is no silence about it either. The story of Ishi is very well publicized, because he was the last of his tribe, and there are many tribes that were driven into extinction. Australia has the Barunga Statement in the Parliament Building in Canberra, that admits to all the wrong-doings to the Aborigines. So both the United States and Australia have very much come to terms with their genocidal pasts.
Truth

UK

#4 Mar 19, 2013
No they have not come to terms with the killing of the native people . America still prevents the Red Indians from building schools and deny them their own land which America promised to give them.
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#5 Mar 19, 2013
Truth wrote:
No they have not come to terms with the killing of the native people . America still prevents the Red Indians from building schools and deny them their own land which America promised to give them.
They have their own schools on the reservations, where they are being taught in their native language. Because all 250 Native American languages are endangered, and it is reversing the trend of when they went to boarding schools, and were forced to speak English. Native Americans have private ownership of land on reservations, but it has expanded recently to include tracts of land outside of reservations, such as the Nez Perce now having control of the Wallowa Mountains in eastern Oregon.
TRUTHlover

Satu Mare, Romania

#6 Mar 22, 2013
Turkey never denied the death of 100,000's of Armenians (through direct or indirect means by Turks or other Muslim groups)during WW I !

However Turkey demands the same recognition for the death of 100,000's of death Turks and other Muslim groups through direct means by the Armenians during the same period !

Cheers,
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#7 Mar 22, 2013
TRUTHlover wrote:
Turkey never denied the death of 100,000's of Armenians (through direct or indirect means by Turks or other Muslim groups)during WW I !
However Turkey demands the same recognition for the death of 100,000's of death Turks and other Muslim groups through direct means by the Armenians during the same period !
Cheers,
The only time the Armenians were armed and fought the Turks, is when they link up with the invading Russian Army at Van. When the Ottoman Empire issued decrees against the Armenians in 1915, one of them was the confiscation of arms. When Armenians were sent on the death marches, hardly any of them were armed. Sources in Washington, D.C., London, and Jerusalem place the death rate at 1.5 million. This figure were accumulated by foreign missionaries, who keep records before and after. Also, many Armenians were insured by American insurance companies. So that is another source of figures.
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#8 Mar 22, 2013
As soon as TR acknowledges the criminal policies and activities of IT turk regime resulting in the demise of an Empire and inflicting untold pain and suffering for her Muslim population as well as comitting a Genocide on Christian population, Humanity will feel much safer for their future.
It is encouraging that TR has already started making inroads in this direction starting with the Dersim Genocide, which was kept under cover for 75 years.
http://www.bugun.com.tr/son-dakika/basbakan-e ...

Since: Aug 12

Adana, Turkey

#9 Mar 22, 2013
I dont want to enter the political debate , noone can judge Turkiye. I'll say something different , many of armenians killed by kurdish tribes during World War II. We have given permission for armenians to migrate despite all the things they do.
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#10 Mar 22, 2013
B_Girl_Turco wrote:
I dont want to enter the political debate , noone can judge Turkiye. I'll say something different , many of armenians killed by kurdish tribes during World War II. We have given permission for armenians to migrate despite all the things they do.
First of all, you got your time periods mixed up. It was during World War I, Turkey was neutral during World War II. Many Armenians were killed by the Kurds, but what happened it that many Kurds moved up into former Armenian territory after that. Turkey has finally come to peace with the Kurds. The Kurds do not want their own country, they want civil liberties. But a cease-fire has begun between the Turkish Government and the Kurdistan Workers' Party. Only a fraction of Armenians still live in Turkey today.

Since: Aug 12

Adana, Turkey

#11 Mar 22, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
<quoted text> First of all, you got your time periods mixed up. It was during World War I, Turkey was neutral during World War II. Many Armenians were killed by the Kurds, but what happened it that many Kurds moved up into former Armenian territory after that. Turkey has finally come to peace with the Kurds. The Kurds do not want their own country, they want civil liberties. But a cease-fire has begun between the Turkish Government and the Kurdistan Workers' Party. Only a fraction of Armenians still live in Turkey today.
Kurdish citizens have different purposes. There is no distinction for them in Turkiye. There are not only kurdish citizens , many folks live intertwined here , no discrimination against any of them . I'm half chechen , why I'm not complaining about anything. Their aim is to have their own countries , all other things are just excuses . will never be peace between Turks and Kurds .
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#12 Mar 22, 2013
B_Girl_Turco wrote:
<quoted text>
Kurdish citizens have different purposes. There is no distinction for them in Turkiye. There are not only kurdish citizens , many folks live intertwined here , no discrimination against any of them . I'm half chechen , why I'm not complaining about anything. Their aim is to have their own countries , all other things are just excuses . will never be peace between Turks and Kurds .
Both Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Abdullah Ocalan says peace has begun. Are they both misinformed? I would like to see peace, because it seems that 40,000 people killed are enough.

Since: Aug 12

Adana, Turkey

#13 Mar 23, 2013
will be no peace , this event will be like a second armenian event.
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#14 Mar 23, 2013
B_Girl_Turco wrote:
will be no peace , this event will be like a second armenian event.
Little turkochechen girl calls for another Jihad for a MAJOR DERSIM!!!
hatuey

Methuen, MA

#15 Mar 23, 2013
Truth wrote:
America refuses to recognize the massacre of the Red Indians . The killing of the Native Americans is crimes against humanity .
but.....right now genocide is happening all over latin america and no government cares. it started 500 years ago and is stil going on .in chile the mapuche are in a strugle for their lands and other tribes too.the democratic govt is accusing the indians of terrorism for defending their back yard,even that presidentowns indian stolen land. argentina have always been even more genocidal with their indian population. all of the other latin countries are no better, giving the tribes' land to big polluting corps.today many amazonian tribes try to hide deep in the jungle, because they now about the corps and religion, their worse enemies. dare any one todebate me in this issue.
hatuey

Methuen, MA

#16 Mar 23, 2013
Truth wrote:
No they have not come to terms with the killing of the native people . America still prevents the Red Indians from building schools and deny them their own land which America promised to give them.
true, but dont forget the latin american aborigenous people,they r treated worse. their treatment is so bad that they try to hide their ancestry.even the mayority of the mestisos discriminate against those who have the same blood as they do.
TRUTHlover

Satu Mare, Romania

#17 Mar 23, 2013
hatuey wrote:
<quoted text>but.....right now genocide is happening all over latin america and no government cares. it started 500 years ago and is stil going on .in chile the mapuche are in a strugle for their lands and other tribes too.the democratic govt is accusing the indians of terrorism for defending their back yard,even that presidentowns indian stolen land. argentina have always been even more genocidal with their indian population. all of the other latin countries are no better, giving the tribes' land to big polluting corps.today many amazonian tribes try to hide deep in the jungle, because they now about the corps and religion, their worse enemies. dare any one todebate me in this issue.
This problem did not exist only in Turkey, you will find this problem in every country on the Balkans, Middle East, Caucasus, Asia, Africa and Latin America .... Even in Europe: Basques in Spain/France, Northern Ireland in Britain etc....

Cheers,
hatuey

Methuen, MA

#18 Mar 23, 2013
TRUTHlover wrote:
<quoted text>
This problem did not exist only in Turkey, you will find this problem in every country on the Balkans, Middle East, Caucasus, Asia, Africa and Latin America .... Even in Europe: Basques in Spain/France, Northern Ireland in Britain etc....
Cheers,
. we agree . cheers. the strugle continues and i will never give-up. fight for the rights of the most endangered,the aborigenous people of the world.
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#19 Mar 23, 2013
B_Girl_Turco wrote:
will be no peace , this event will be like a second armenian event.
The Armenian Genocide happened during World War I. Turkey never committed genocide against the Kurds, it was Iraq that did so. It was one of the things Saddam Hussein was convicted of, and executed for. I do not think Erdogan wants to be convicted of genocide, and be executed over it.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#20 Mar 24, 2013
Armenians are well known for being liars and sell outs through history.

Just like their so-called genocide fairy tale.Armenians killed 518.000 Turks in Anatolia between 1910-1922 including World War I.

They were so wiped out because of the "genocide" that they were still mass murdering Turks on the Eastern front in 1918.

They were so wiped out because of the "genocide" that they allied with the invading Gyreek armies to kill Turks in Western Anatolia between 1919-1922.At the end of World War I, the losses of the Ottoman Empire was over 2 million civilian and military combined.

That means Armenians killed over 2 million Ottoman Muslim Turks by siding with invading Russian and French armies under the command of Dashnak terrorists such as Andranik and Pastirmaciyan.They still cry for genocide.What a joke.

Thats why these Armenian liars didnt expose a single archive document in more han 90 years.Because if they do it, their lies will be exposed too and theirs masks will fall down.

Hypocrisy of the West that promotes lies about Turkish history and avoids the massacres committed against them turned a blind eye on the genocide of Azerbaijan Turks in Khojaly too.

But guess what, Turkey will never accept Armenian lies.Expose your archives or apologize for your lies and crimes.

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