Napeleon Bonaparte on Turks
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#1 Jul 19, 2008
İnsanlari yücelten iki büyük meziyet vardir: Erkegin cesur kadinin
olmasi. Bu iki meziyetin yaninda hem erkegi, hem kadini
bir meziyet vardir. İcabinda tereddütsüz canini feda edebilecek kadar
vatanina bagli olmak. Iste Türkler bu meziyetlere ve fazilete sahip
kahramanlardir. Bundan dolayidir ki Türkler öldürülebilir, lakin maglup
Napoleon Bonaparte - Fransiz İmparatoru
#2 Jul 19, 2008
There are 2 virtues which rise the Human beings.For men being bold for women chastity.
Besides these two virtues there is one more virtue which honors both men and women.Being loyal to your country and when necessary without hesitation sacrificing your life for it.Turks are heroes who posses these virtues.Therefore Turks can be killed but not defeated.
Napoleon Bonaparte-French emperor.
#3 Jul 19, 2008
When did Napoleon say this ?
Russians always defeated the Turks unless the Turks got help from French or British (Crimean War).
"Turks can be killed but not defeated" is a description of Turkish Jihadism of times gone by.
Russians taught the French some lessons after this statement ;)
Since: Jul 08
Tel Aviv, Israel
#4 Jul 19, 2008
ask the russian who this mustafa kemal ataturk they know very good
#5 Jul 19, 2008
Yes, they do!
Ataturk was the man who, in 1920, sent a letter to Lenin begging for help against the Imperialist governments. If the Russians said NO, Turkey would have lost the war. But Lenin said YES. Lenin saved Turkiye! Why Turks do not have thousands of statues of Lenin all over Turkiye ?
Lenin is the saviour of Turkiye!
#6 Jul 30, 2008
no lenin is not a saviour, ataturk is the best !
#7 Nov 8, 2010
Lenin has nothing to do with it. It's true that Ataturk ASKED help but Russia has no "saviour" role in history. After the war, Turkey paid it back to Russia and as a show of thanks, they put a monument for it
#8 Nov 8, 2010
Turkey is nation of Slavs, Mongols, Greeks Armenians and Kurds.
Most of them want their indepedancy, I am with them.
Let them have it.
We are a nation of devided in m any sectors any way.
Even in our religion we are devided.
Everything we have is not even ours.
Nothing has been discovered by Turks, not even our flag, not even our greatests monuments.
Turkey must change.
We should stop already doing things the old Turkish traditional way.
To point the finger to others when we do wrong, when we fail.
To blame and cause more and more tension and isolate our nation from the modern world.
We need to make further steps to improve our civilization and nation, to become a modern and secure country. Changes that will benefit all Turks, not just the fanatics of all kinds.
The future is within the European Union.
A healthy and rich organism that will boost Turkey to the limit. A super power of the modern era.
But how can we expect to achieve membership when we fail in major and crucial matters?
How can anyone trust and invest on Turkey when we constantly threat full E.U members (Greece and Cyprus) with war? Can the "Casus Belli" bring us closer to our target?
Of course Not!
Its simple, we need to trust Greece and resolve all issues with this great nation that gave the birth of western civilization, freedom and democracy. It shouldnt be that difficult to admit that Greece has such a great civilization, one will think we are jealous or feel inferior when we keep denying what the rest of the world accepts and admits. It only heart Turkish image to the world.
We need to accept the Greek dominance in the Aegean and stop violating the Greek airspace and Greek sea boarders.
We need to accept the International law and let Greece expand its territorial waters up to what the International sea law allows. Is it 12 NM? Then 12 NM it is. As we have done in Bosporus.
Its their right, we need to respect it. No one stopped Turkey from doing it.
What about the Halki Theological School?
This school can only unite our people and bring us closer.
There is nothing to fear, if we trust who we are we have nothing to worry.
Let it work!
A Christian monument that was converted to what it is today. For what?
Only for people to watch it wonder why someone wants to change it.
What is the fear of being a church, why do we have to justify others to say that Turks are afraid of Christianity and fear the West. So let it be what it use to be.
A Christian church. We only have to gain from this, not to lose!
The Armenian Genocide issue. Lets look at the facts, lest look thru out history and talk about it before its too late. The rest of the world recognize the genocide, what we do?
Be the only nation that doesnt? For what?
The Kurdistan issue.
Many steps have been made, more will come.
This matter will close in a sort time, Kurdistan will be create and safety will be the best asset for all of us!
The Cyprus issue.
Withdraw of all military presence at once!
For both sides. Remove the illegal colonists that came after the invasion.
Then we need to unite the Island and let the people vote and run their country, as "Cyprus".
Let this Island be our link that connect us, not separate us!
Why should we fight all the time who is better, who is to rule?
Lets all think about all this and wonder, can we improve?
Can we change?
Yes we can!
#9 Nov 8, 2010
I send you a article about Russian involment in that war was the turn of the Greek defeat let me see I can find it . My turkish friend
#10 Nov 8, 2010
Türk gibi kuvvetli 1.François_fransiz krali. . fort comme un Türk.francois 1er.roi français. Arkadaslar ingilizcem yoktur size zahmet biriniz ingilizce yazabilirmi.
#11 Nov 8, 2010
i just see an article about the minor asia war in 1919 to 1922 .and im ashame of both Greece and Turkey and the Aglo-french the one who start this war,both sides commit crime burning buildings rapes killings what kind people they were then?animals and still i see hate in here.
#13 Jan 27, 2011
I ll answer one of your dumb comments about Hagia Sophia (spell it right)
Hagia Sophia Mosque is property of not Turkey, it is the -personal- property of Fatih Sultan Mehmed, the Conquerer. He, after conquering the city of Constantinople -purchased- the church from the Roman Church and only then he converted it to a -Mosque- that is today and that will remain until the end of time. First get your facts straight then talk. By the way, you are definitely one of the intruders, perhaps a missionary trying trying to convert people and to speak as if you are a Turk, trying to opinionate people. Loser!
#14 Jan 27, 2011
I ll answer one of your dumb comments about Hagia Sophia (spell it right)
Hagia Sophia Mosque is property of not Turkey, it is the -personal- property of Fatih Sultan Mehmed, the Conquerer. He, after conquering the city of Constantinople -purchased- the church from the Roman Church and only then he converted it to a -Mosque- that is today and that will remain until the end of time. First get your facts straight then talk. By the way, you are definitely one of the intruders, perhaps a missionary trying trying to convert people and to speak as if you are a Turk, trying to opinionate others on these highly sensitive issues.
And your other comments about issues like Kurdish issue, So-Called Genocide, and Cyprus..You seem like you got it all down? If you worked for US Foreign Affairs i bet you would match all their expectations. If you were one of the parties involved with in these issues such as Armenians, Turks, Kurds and etc you just wouldnt be able write this lighthearted and senseless comments. I suggest you get the hell out of here and write where your comments are relative. Moron !
#15 Nov 21, 2012
Gonul Emre is an Armenian Dashnak Extremeism or a Gayreek pretending to be Turkish.
#16 May 16, 2013
Ataturk wrote to lening, explaining that their idiology were not that far apart. he too was a revolutionist. lenning helped Turkey for selfish reasons. Ataturk had to save his people. Lenning on the other hand did not want West to come into the area and become major players/competition etc. thus Russia was a majot power in the area. The outcome was a benefit to both. each side sought after their own intrests. this person emre gonul is not a turk. even a child with reasonable common sense will recognise that straight away because turk is always proud to be a turk. hence these were the words of the father of all turks. NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE. your pathetic propaganda is not in anyway going to be effective on anyone. And to those that has any doubt about a turk. Ask the bravery of the Turks to the Australians. I also do not understand the concept of cry baby nantions claiming land from Turkey. all land on this planet is won through bloodshed and War. this is how each world has been shaped since the begining of era. Blood has spilled on every plot of land. but everyone has to move on. if Turkey gave land it will cease to exist Greeks claiming the west with Armenians claiming the east. just get over it. long live Turks and Kurds Laz and Cerkez people of Turkey.
#17 May 16, 2013
Russians taught nothing to nobody but the merciless russian winter has... to the french,the Turks,the Brits and the germans.otherwise the whole of what we know as russia today would have been speaking any of the above languages except russian! get your facts right!
#18 May 16, 2013
You are just another fake jihadist IT remnant turk in denial.
Pezo Muso sold Azeris to Lenin in exchange for some help to negotiate with the west to establish a puppet turkey.
#19 May 16, 2013
Contrary to what they claim, the USSR helped the Turks at the expense of Armenia. Armenia gave the most and got the least, the Turko-Azeris gave the least and got the most.
#20 May 17, 2013
Siz ey bizden sonra seire gelenler,
Bu çetin yollarda ugurlar size!
Esqiniz - gelecek.
Yasiniz - seher.
Qelbiniz isiqli, fikriniz teze!
Meydanda durun merd kimi,
Uymayin öteri söhrete, ada.
Bizim seirimizin düneni kimi
Böyükdür, sanlidir istiqbali da!
Ehtiram olsa da, hami ezelden,
"Selefin yolundan men uzaq!- deyir
Dünen atasina "öne bax!" - deyen
Bu gün övladina "dala bax!" - deyir.
Biz öz atamiza deyerdik bir vaxt:
her günün öz hökmü var ha!.."
Indi oglumuza deyirik ancaq,
"Gel teze nirx qoyma köhne bazara!"
Zövqler, duygular deyisir her an,
Geldikce, getdikce nesiller bir-bir.
Atalar hemise gileylenibdir:
"Ay hezarat, bir zemane gelibdir,
Ala qarga sux terlani beyenmez.
Ogullar atani, qizlar anani,
Gelinler de qaynanani beyenmez..."
Atamiz deyerdi bunu bir zaman,
İndi biz deyirik övladimiza.
Ogul o kesdir ki, köhne kitabdan
Bu köhne yazini, bu ferqi poza!
Ata o kesdir ki, dayanib önde
Övladin hissile yasaya bilsin,
Övlad o kesdir ki,çiyinlerinde
Atanm derdini dasiya bilsin.
Siz ey bizden sonra seire gelenler,
Bu çetin yollarda ugurlar size.
Esqiniz - gelecek,
Qaçan tez köhneler bu tezelikden,
Ancaq bi Sazimda eybecer sesler uyduran
Saxta xallar vuran cavanlar da var.
Özgenin hinine, "Qesri-Süleyman",
Özünün qesrine "hin" deyir onlar.
Menim belesine birce sözüm var:
"Yad yerin halvasi çox sirin olar".
Qaçirsan, min illik eneneden qaç!
Her kese benzeme, sen teze yol aç!
Dediyin her sözü duy derin-derin.
Heyatda gördüyün geriliklerin
Deme ki, hamisi enenedendir!..
Sen niye arxani köhne sayirsan
Qaçib öz atandan bes bu nedendir,
Özge atalari yamsilayirsan?
Gülme öz köküne, ayibdir sene!
Ot köküüstünde biter, unutma,
Köhne damgasini vurub atana,
Özgeden özüne sen ata tutma!
Yadin köhnesi de dilin ezberi,
Enenen çiynine niye yük oldu?
Anlaya bilmirem, ne vaxtdan beri
Yadi yamsilamaq yenilik oldu?!
Bütün köhnelere:- "bu nedir?" - deye
Gülsek, ne qazanar bundan gelecek?
Veten de, millet de köhnedir deye
Belke tezesini axtarmaq gerek?
Onda kim deyecek, kim, bize yaxsi?
Her köhne pis deyil, her teze yaxsi!
ne deyirsen? O qoca logman,
Özge bulagmdan qetre içmedi.
Fövqelbeser oldu, ancaq heç zaman,
Mujik paltarini o deyismedi!r metlebi demeliyem men:
Teze yol!" - deyib de qisqirmayin siz,
Senet aleminde yol birmi, yüzmü?
Esl senetkari yolsuz, cigirsiz
Yaz ilham deyeni,ürek deyeni,
Yol özü dolanib tapacaq seni,
Qelbini, beynini nahaq yorma sen!
Amandir,özünden yol uydurma sen!
Yenilik xetrine yazmaqdan sakin!
İlhamdir yaradan seneti, seiri.
Yagmaq xatirine yagan yagisin
Ne baga xeyri var, ne daga xeyri!
Qelbine, hissine daim arxalan,
Bir de... elvan sesli illerimize.
Köhne söz dememis ilham heç zaman
Her qelbin öz sözü tezedir bize!
Sen köhne olursan yamsilayanda!
Bu günden yapis!
#21 May 17, 2013
I love the way of your thinking!
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