Iraqi Turkmens and Turkmenia

“Ne Mutlu TURKUM Diyene !”

Since: Dec 08

Mersin

#22 Nov 12, 2009
ALISHIR wrote:
<quoted text>
You are an Israeli Jasus , we will not insult Turkish folks no matter how much you try to provoke THE kURDS , We are too big for this sort of thing . WE WILL LET OUR GREEKS AND ARMENIAN BROTHERS TO DO THAT.
Your being in Turkey and pretending yourself to be Kamalist , Let me tell : Mustafa Kemal without Kurds fighting in Diyar Baker, Marash Siiert his aass would have been wide open undrr French pinuses .
Beside who are Azeries and when did this Russian province did help turkey to fight an English faget ?
The pretentions of Playing Turkey on this forum , only a Turkish arse hole will buy it from you. Apparently no shortages of them on this Forum.
A kurdish Pinus and a bottle of Manishavit along with Gefelta Fish will do you O K.
By the way We love Turks.
You Kurdish piece of shit,if there is any Israeli here then it must be you bearing in mind there is ample evidence of Kurds being one of the 10 lost tribes of Ancient Judea.

God i wonder how could you have turned in to a bunch of women killing,sister slaughtering barbaric cavemens from a highly civilized society like that.

Kürdofil,you already insult the Turks by insulting their eternal leader.Kurdo,you are not even a human,you are an animal in human form,you are as ugly as the average Kurd.If there is something you know better other than killing your own sister for committing honour crime,it would be making bombs and blowing yourself up in shopping malls.

You are a beast coming from a terrorist nation..When the Yanks pull out from Iraq i will see you,you useless,lousy cockroach.

“Ne Mutlu TURKUM Diyene !”

Since: Dec 08

Mersin

#23 Nov 12, 2009
Sezi the Yankee hoe

Senin gibi bir kevaseye mi kaldi Türkiye'de Laikligi konusmak beyinsiz salak.Vatansiz hiyar,ABD'den Türkiye'ye götünden yeni isimler uydurdugun günleri hatirliyoruz.

O dedigin adam ve baslattigi hareket Türk milleti icin ve Turk yurdu icin bir dönüm noktasi olmustur.Senin deden,ninen vs. o zamanlarda ABD denen soykirimci,vahsi,fasist ulkeye iltica etmekle ugrastiklari icin Milli Mucadele donemini kacirmis olmalilar.

Ponstus'lu da,Ermeni'de,Arap'i da Türk milletinin tasfiyesi icin isyanlar baslatti,bu isyanlara verilen cevap kanli oldu.

Etme bulma dünyasi bu.

Seriat gelirse sizin ABD'ye bizden once gelir.Bizim baskanin ismi HUSSAIN degil ! Lmao.

Sizin sulale o sisteme cabuk uyum saglar gerci.Konyaliydiniz degil mi ?

Anladik..
ALISHIR

AOL

#24 Nov 12, 2009
Mediterranean wrote:
<quoted text>
You Kurdish piece of shit,if there is any Israeli here then it must be you bearing in mind there is ample evidence of Kurds being one of the 10 lost tribes of Ancient Judea.
God i wonder how could you have turned in to a bunch of women killing,sister slaughtering barbaric cavemens from a highly civilized society like that.
Kürdofil,you already insult the Turks by insulting their eternal leader.Kurdo,you are not even a human,you are an animal in human form,you are as ugly as the average Kurd.If there is something you know better other than killing your own sister for committing honour crime,it would be making bombs and blowing yourself up in shopping malls.
You are a beast coming from a terrorist nation..When the Yanks pull out from Iraq i will see you,you useless,lousy cockroach.
Peh heheheheheh heh heh AAAAAH I wish it was true , by now I could at least own a bank or two. Keep the good work .
ALISHIR

AOL

#25 Nov 12, 2009
Sezi wrote:
SHIRO: I have ZERO comprehension of the tone of your response to Azeri considering both the religion (Jewish) and ethnicity (Russian) of your own past loved one!!! Have more respect when it comes to women -- your own culture's original Yezidi religion is way too forgotten... Haven't you ever considered that Kurdish sentiment would have been much stronger had all Kurds stayed Yezidi? I personally would have preferred that Turks stayed shaman (they apparently respected women a lot more back then, and were generally healthier too and more in tune with nature).
But, I don't know how reversible is the mentality that would attempt to remove the entirety of the Christian population from its realms, including Assyrians who did not rebel. It is not expressly in the name of Islam, though it really is, for Islam is ultimately what made the current Turk "Turk". When you simply remove the Christian, riot and tax against the Jew, use the Muslim Kurd but then abuse him too when he refuses to be called by a different name -- all in the name of being a "Laik Turk", one wonders: For what, exactly, are we "LAIK"?
When "Osmanli" meant "Muslim" and then "Muslim" meant "Turk", one wonders how any man could have made us magically "Laik" in five minutes and yet have forgotten to remember the Christian?
When we identify so much more strongly with ANY "Muslim brother" all the way from Chechnya to China than we have ever identified with the Christians of our own land: Then for what exactly are we "LAIK"?
HErmeni'yi birak, Pontus'u birak, bugun HALA Suryani'ye bile "oh olmus" diyen yaratiklar, ancak ve ancak
SHERIAT'a LAIK'tir.
(oh no she di'in't -- OH YES SHE DID!!!)
Now some Manishavitz sounds damn good.:D
back to procrastinating... cheerios...
Sezi aziz I shall be back at you soon it is 1 AM time to sleep.

But I have no defence , however, I have explianations that will shock you ,Heheh heh heh hehehe .This a good night , some one wrote that I am a lost tribe of Judea , other like you came very close :EZDIES ( Not yezidies). well no mater who I am ,I still have to get up and go to work.I shall be back.tomorrow night

Thank you for excellent posting .

I will be back at you soon
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#26 Nov 12, 2009
Bak, yine bir cahil, Turk ile Osmanliyi, daha onemlisi Turk ile Muslumani birbirine karistirdi.
Yoksa zavalli beyincigi oyle oldugunu dusunmesi gerektigi uzre mi programlanmis?
"O adam" sadece baslatilmis olani devraldi.
Ve hatta, ustadlarinin ruyalarina halel getirmedi, bilakis Izmire girildiginde, Efendisi Enverin, Sovyet guclerine karsi Jihad naralari atarak carpistigi Turkistandan ozenle secip gonderdigi 3 kilicin muzaffer kumandanlara, ITC nin baslattigi TURK ISLAM Jihadinin bir nisanesi olarak, hediye edilmesine ozel itina gosterdi.
Yani;Pontuslunun, Ermeninin, Arabin, Rumun vede Turkun, Osmanlinin tasfiyesi icin baslattiklari ayaklanmalarin sonunda, Anadoluda sadece MUSLUMAN AYAKTA KALDI, Karamanli bile ozel muamele goremedi.
Boylece de olmayan bir ulus Islamin golgesinde sekil buldu.
"Yurtta Islam Cihanda Islam" ida devlet politikasi edindi.
Ertugrul Gazi

Mugla, Turkey

#27 Nov 12, 2009
"Olmayan" bir ulusun aslinda "olmayan" bir dilini ne de güzel ögretmisler sana?

VERENYAN!!:-)
Serkan

Pittsburgh, PA

#28 Nov 12, 2009
Dander wrote:
Bak, yine bir cahil, Turk ile Osmanliyi, daha onemlisi Turk ile Muslumani birbirine karistirdi.
Yoksa zavalli beyincigi oyle oldugunu dusunmesi gerektigi uzre mi programlanmis?
"O adam" sadece baslatilmis olani devraldi.
Ve hatta, ustadlarinin ruyalarina halel getirmedi, bilakis Izmire girildiginde, Efendisi Enverin, Sovyet guclerine karsi Jihad naralari atarak carpistigi Turkistandan ozenle secip gonderdigi 3 kilicin muzaffer kumandanlara, ITC nin baslattigi TURK ISLAM Jihadinin bir nisanesi olarak, hediye edilmesine ozel itina gosterdi.
Yani;Pontuslunun, Ermeninin, Arabin, Rumun vede Turkun, Osmanlinin tasfiyesi icin baslattiklari ayaklanmalarin sonunda, Anadoluda sadece MUSLUMAN AYAKTA KALDI, Karamanli bile ozel muamele goremedi.
Boylece de olmayan bir ulus Islamin golgesinde sekil buldu.
"Yurtta Islam Cihanda Islam" ida devlet politikasi edindi.
Varsa yoksa Hristiyanlik propagandasina dondun Dander! Yoksa Hristiyan kontendincisi misin? Cok fazla kafan basiyor diyemem ama o kadar da akilsiz olabilecegine inanmakta gucluk cekiyorum.
Dardanelli

Istanbul, Turkey

#29 Nov 12, 2009
Dander wrote:
Bak, yine bir cahil, Turk ile Osmanliyi, daha onemlisi Turk ile Muslumani birbirine karistirdi.
Yoksa zavalli beyincigi oyle oldugunu dusunmesi gerektigi uzre mi programlanmis?
"O adam" sadece baslatilmis olani devraldi.
Ve hatta, ustadlarinin ruyalarina halel getirmedi, bilakis Izmire girildiginde, Efendisi Enverin, Sovyet guclerine karsi Jihad naralari atarak carpistigi Turkistandan ozenle secip gonderdigi 3 kilicin muzaffer kumandanlara, ITC nin baslattigi TURK ISLAM Jihadinin bir nisanesi olarak, hediye edilmesine ozel itina gosterdi.
Yani;Pontuslunun, Ermeninin, Arabin, Rumun vede Turkun, Osmanlinin tasfiyesi icin baslattiklari ayaklanmalarin sonunda, Anadoluda sadece MUSLUMAN AYAKTA KALDI, Karamanli bile ozel muamele goremedi.
Boylece de olmayan bir ulus Islamin golgesinde sekil buldu.
"Yurtta Islam Cihanda Islam" ida devlet politikasi edindi.
Türküz, Osmanli da bizim, Selcuklusuda bizim, müslümani da bizim, Suryanisi de bizim Alevisi de , memlekette kalan Ermenisi de Rumu da.

Senin bu Karamanli muhabbetin de baydi artik. Sen esseksin ve essek gibi biliyorsun ki Musluman teba ile Hristiyan tebaa mübadele edildi Lozan antlasmasinda belirtildigi gibi.

Dander

Sydney, Australia

#30 Nov 13, 2009
Benim dinle allahla peygamberle fazla ism hic olmadi.
Ben sadece kafami kurcalayan bir konuyu kendime ve baskalarina aciklamaya calisiyorum.
Eger Jon Turkler ve de onlarin devami TC Anadoluyu muslumanlastirma gibi bir caba icinde degil idi iseler neden, hem de Turkluk ile ilgili bunca derin bilgi ve anlayisi olan bir M Kemal,
aslen turk olan Karamanliyi arnavut bosnak pomak vs gibi turklukle yakin uzak ilgisi olmayan halklarla, sirf musluman olduklari icin mubadele etmistir ve bu mubadele M kemal ve Jon turk artigi grubunun dayatmasi sonucu lozan anlasmasina sokulmustur.
Biliyorsaniz anlatin, anlayalim. Eger mantikli bir nedeni varsa belki benim halkima yapilan soykirimida hakli kilabilir.
Bilmiyorsaniz da roboturkluk yapmayin.
ALISHIR

AOL

#31 Nov 13, 2009
Azeri wrote:
bir bu catmirdi.
now kurds claim to be Qizilbash.
qizilbas turkdur, turk qizilbasdir.
even armenian can be shia alevi,that doesnot make him qizilbash.
before Shah Abbas ,there were qizilbash for his ancestor Shah Ismail Khatai. if some non-turks joined turks and became qizilbash, it is only bcoz we ruled them.(like bosnians,albanians became muslim after chrtistianity)
You are the stupidest Israeli Jasusah ever I encounterd since I was borne .
Barzani tribal chiefs when picture taken it is a huge turban doted red , ask them as good jasusah why , why not some other color ?
The Safavi religion movement founded by Kurds , but it has no nationality .
It is an order adhered to by Kurds first just like Naqshibandies , Nur , Ahli Haq ( Alawees),
Because Kurds rejects the Arabic version of Islam .Kurds define Islam in a Kurdish way ( Bernerd Luis ).
Minorisky noted Kurds are mystical people indulge in secret religion orders , nearly every one has two religion the official one , and some other mystical one.
The Tariqah is an Idea has no country , or nationality . No terbya siz should dare to Tangel with .
Infact no one ever did .
It is Islam at highest level of intellictual persuetion , like Bahaisim and HAKKANIES and Nuries , Deroz a host of others school ofr thought .
When we take Russian Azerbiag Tavarish , We will put the sword in you all. GENOCIDE in the name of GOd !
Just why out of 8 million Azeri Russian you cliam to be their rep ?
What is your Education , or proffesion in Turkey ?
How about telling us some thing about yourself ?
Anf do give us your address to send some Books to resd .

“Get started, Go ahead!!”

Since: Oct 09

Doha, Qatar

#32 Nov 13, 2009
ALISHIR wrote:
<quoted text>
You are an Israeli Jasus , we will not insult Turkish folks no matter how much you try to provoke THE kURDS , We are too big for this sort of thing . WE WILL LET OUR GREEKS AND ARMENIAN BROTHERS TO DO THAT.
Your being in Turkey and pretending yourself to be Kamalist , Let me tell : Mustafa Kemal without Kurds fighting in Diyar Baker, Marash Siiert his aass would have been wide open undrr French pinuses .
Beside who are Azeries and when did this Russian province did help turkey to fight an English faget ?
The pretentions of Playing Turkey on this forum , only a Turkish arse hole will buy it from you. Apparently no shortages of them on this Forum.
A kurdish Pinus and a bottle of Manishavit along with Gefelta Fish will do you O K.
By the way We love Turks.
Hey U ,ass chewing bastard, what the hell u insult the women? don't u have a woman in ur family? or u kurdish bastards treating women in this way in ur tribe? if u call armenoids and greeks ur brother then, everything is clear with u, u 're armenized kurdish bastard , that is all!!!
ALISHIR

AOL

#33 Nov 13, 2009
Uzun Hasan wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey U ,ass chewing bastard, what the hell u insult the women? don't u have a woman in ur family? or u kurdish bastards treating women in this way in ur tribe? if u call armenoids and greeks ur brother then, everything is clear with u, u 're armenized kurdish bastard , that is all!!!
Another post , another Israeli AZERI Jaaaaaasus , no further comment !

Shalom shavat
ALISHIR

AOL

#34 Nov 13, 2009
Ertugrul Gazi wrote:
The kurdish aggression against Iraqi Turkmens is a reason of war for Turkey. Barzani and his apes will be our lunch, then
Israeli Jaaaaaasus !
AYDIN

Montignies-sur-sambre, Belgium

#35 Nov 13, 2009
Sezi wrote:
Azeri, if you are claiming that no Kurds are Qizilbash and that only ethnic Turks are Qizilbash, then you should change the wikipedia entry which lists 5 "Tajik" (meaning "non-Turk") groups aside from Turkic tribes to be Qizilbash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qizilbash
(the rest is not just to Azeri...)
, then hey NEWSFLASH: THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!
SOME religions continue to be associated with the culture and ethnicity in which they were born: Zoroastrianism with Iran. Hinduism with India. Taoism with China (more philosophy perhaps). But religions of ABRAHAM are another ball game altogether: Politics, politics, politics. There is something beautiful about the East, and it has nothing to do with Abraham whatsoever.
Millet tartisiyor,
Sanane, sen ne karisiyorsun ?
Kizilbash'lik Türklere ait oldugu dogrudur. Shiiligin Türkler tarafindan yorumudur.
Ben Sünnilestirilmis Kizilbash Türkmen kökenden geliyorum.
(çepni tribe - oghuz Turk).

Kürtler, Farsiler kalitesiz ve fiziksel olarakta çirkin Irklar; bunlar bir bok beceremezler.
Mesela bak, Farsiler zamanlarini siir yazmakla kaybederken, Iran'i 1000 yil boyunca Türkler yönetti. Iyi bir örnek Mevlana denen farsi adam (Shems tebrizi ile homo iliskilerinden bahsediyorlar); Iran'da kalip ülkesini Mogollara karsi savunacagina, Konya'ya kaçti...
AYDIN

Montignies-sur-sambre, Belgium

#36 Nov 13, 2009
ALISHIR wrote:
<quoted text>
Israeli Jaaaaaasus !
Casus siçsin agzina yalansa emi ?
Serkan

Pittsburgh, PA

#37 Nov 13, 2009
Dander wrote:
Benim dinle allahla peygamberle fazla ism hic olmadi.
Ben sadece kafami kurcalayan bir konuyu kendime ve baskalarina aciklamaya calisiyorum.
Eger Jon Turkler ve de onlarin devami TC Anadoluyu muslumanlastirma gibi bir caba icinde degil idi iseler neden, hem de Turkluk ile ilgili bunca derin bilgi ve anlayisi olan bir M Kemal,
aslen turk olan Karamanliyi arnavut bosnak pomak vs gibi turklukle yakin uzak ilgisi olmayan halklarla, sirf musluman olduklari icin mubadele etmistir ve bu mubadele M kemal ve Jon turk artigi grubunun dayatmasi sonucu lozan anlasmasina sokulmustur.
Biliyorsaniz anlatin, anlayalim. Eger mantikli bir nedeni varsa belki benim halkima yapilan soykirimida hakli kilabilir.
Bilmiyorsaniz da roboturkluk yapmayin.
Ataturk'un en buyuk ozelligi nedir biliyor musun? Milliyetcilik mi? Hayir. Baticilik mi? Hayir. Devletcilik mi? Hayir.

Ataturk'un en onemli ozelligi pragmatik bir lider olmasi. Zaten onun icin "Ataturk zamaninda bunu yapti, biz sunu yapmaliyiz" tarzi mutlakiyet iceren yargilardan ben hic haz almam. Ataturk ne yapti ise bulundugu ortamin kosullarini iyi degerlendirerek yapmistir.

Senin sorunun cevabi bu iste. Ataturk'u pragmatik bir devlet adami olarak gorursen mubadeleyi de anlarsin, Karamanlilari da.
ALISHIR

AOL

#38 Nov 13, 2009
Size Jan salaam,
Confused ? more cofusion is on the way.

The attempt to seperate Anatol , Micro Asia from rest of Macro Asia , the same simller attempt is going on in Israeli .

Hebro latter Ain and Qaf , and Kh plus some more is been eliminated from Hebro of today.
History wise Jewish Historian now say There never was a charecter named Ibrahim or Musa , Or Solomon or david.

Here is the catch they say they never where any where other then Israel .So Ramsis story and Pyramid building is a hoax.

Why this whole thing , why now?

Ask the Kemalist they will tell you.
It is because Slavic and German Jews feel diffecult breathing if one try to make them Arab causins , So they abolished their suppose five thousand year old history with a stricke of pen ,Just Like Kemal -- Inono .

Now Turkey was borne out of long seriouse events that took many centuries .
We read about them during the Khelafet of El Mustesem son of Harun El Rashid : His mother was a Turk so was his army chief and minister of thrown plus most of his walies.

Turk ,persian , Arabs are now equal in power and influence .Tell some centuries later the Mongol Came , Turks , Kurds , Arabs , Persian took abeating near anahilation.

The Mongol soon desappeares some became Persian , Other Became Arabs , and other join the Turks. Where ever they were the defended that country just like the rest of the populations .

Eastern Anatol , Iraq constantly changed hand beween Persian and Othman : The Persian had themselves and Persianized Mongol /Turk
The Othman had the Turks , the Arabs , and the Kurds , and few mongols ,their came apoint in history that the two looked totaly alike specialy during the Reign of shah Tahmasepi .

I shall follow



.

ALISHIR

AOL

#39 Nov 13, 2009
SEZI Khanum Salaam So now I come to Qizil Bash origin:

Shah Abass was merried to Uzun Hassan daughter .
Uzun Hassan was the leader of the Turkmen,
Now a generel in Shah Abass Army.

Will chase the othman out of Iraq and follow them to Erzirom.

Shah Abass goes to uzbek and take their King presioner to Esphahan. Every body became a relative of every body , and some time the same agha once were pro Othman ,next season changed mind became Pro persian, Kurds and Turks , not Turkmen were among those shefti people .Mean while merriage factories were bussey merrying Turkish Princes to Persian ,Persian To Turks , so you should not be surprised if many Turks of today were once upon a time a Shah Abass Amir.

Usbek of Afghanistan are Shia, uzbek of Uzbakistan are sonnies. Persian of Afghanistan mostly sonnies , and Tachickistan are sonnies , Persian of Iran are Shia.

Me an American lost in time and place.
I ask you if you became a Shamani what changes will you do , to be honest to goodness shami?

Will stop driving 80 miles in 40 miles zone ? that is what I want to konw .
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#40 Nov 13, 2009
Serkan wrote:
<quoted text>
Ataturk'un en buyuk ozelligi nedir biliyor musun? Milliyetcilik mi? Hayir. Baticilik mi? Hayir. Devletcilik mi? Hayir.
Ataturk'un en onemli ozelligi pragmatik bir lider olmasi. Zaten onun icin "Ataturk zamaninda bunu yapti, biz sunu yapmaliyiz" tarzi mutlakiyet iceren yargilardan ben hic haz almam. Ataturk ne yapti ise bulundugu ortamin kosullarini iyi degerlendirerek yapmistir.
Senin sorunun cevabi bu iste. Ataturk'u pragmatik bir devlet adami olarak gorursen mubadeleyi de anlarsin, Karamanlilari da.
Ataturkun pragmatik bir lider oldugunu senin bana anlatmana gerek yok zira kendileri bizim gencligimizde GOK GOZLU OPORTUNIST olarak anilirlardi.
Beni ve benim gibi dusunenleri sorgulamaya iten ikilem, bu pragmatizminin kendini yetistiren bir jon turk okulundan almis olmasi ve baslattiklari uygulamalari devam ettirmis ve halas'a erdirmis olmasindadir.
Yani gelenek Turk Islam sentezi gelenegidir ve bu sentez icin gerekli birincil element Islam dir.
Belki sen bu kucuk nuansi hala yakalyamadin veya sana verilen egitim bu gibi ayrintilari gormeni engelliyor.
Eger oyle ise, senin gibi Dr. of Philosophy yani musbet bilim felsefesi iddiasinda bulunan birisi icin bagnaz bir taraflilik var demektir.

“Get started, Go ahead!!”

Since: Oct 09

Doha, Qatar

#41 Nov 13, 2009
ALISHIR wrote:
<quoted text>
Another post , another Israeli AZERI Jaaaaaasus , no further comment !
Shalom shavat
Listen,
what has my post got to do with Israel? i am telling u not to treat women badly, i did not say anything about isreal , useless ape!!
if u 're a real muslim as u trying to prove in ur previouse posts, u should know that our prophet Muhammad(SAW)said:
"Al Jannah thatha akdam al ummahath"..meaning "heaven is under the feet of mothers"...and all women are either mothers or future mothers , so respect women!!!!

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