The rise of Turkey in the Balkans

The rise of Turkey in the Balkans

There are 132877 comments on the SETimes news story from Jul 11, 2011, titled The rise of Turkey in the Balkans. In it, SETimes news reports that:

Turkey has played a moderator role between Serbia and the tripartite BiH presidency.

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Bronzilla

ThessalonĂ­ki, Greece

#122241 Feb 7, 2013
Poseidon wrote:
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alla mia kai milas gia diethi koinotita take a look

http://www.youtube.com/watch... #!

“"Xeretismata stin Merkel"”

Since: Jun 11

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#122242 Feb 7, 2013
babushka wrote:
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I do understand and you are right. You have captured the essence of the social pychie well. It is a havy burden to carry. Don't get me wrong. I am not justifying . I am only stating that because it is shocking and contrary to what we thought happened during WWI and during the independence war.
As I said before, very few brave ones able to look our demons in the eye and admit openly - the facts.
Many cannot because its a threat to our national , ethic identity. And I think Murat's point, so many just do not have those facts because its never talked or thought.
We have stories of both sides, memroies from the eye witnesses passed on -stays as slient discussions.
We as a society hit the no diminishing return on this. We cannot be silent and continue with the survival policies of early Republic. Its been almost 100 years since the republic.. now, we need to open the archives, state the facts openly and teach those facts however a bursen they may be. Not just that...Republic also needs to open the sharia records to let people find out their ethic backgrounds. It is an unavoidable step in Turkey's future in the new world.
Brilliant, Babush.
Only if people from BOTH sides shared the will to accept the Truth as raw as it usually is, then dialogue that is more constructive could pave the way for a "new beginning", like Murat said, based on peace and cooperation.
But as you unfortunately see, we have elements in both sides that are of an impeded intellectual capacity, drowning in the myths that were propagated to them by their puppeteers; constantly looking for confirmation and enforcement of their own biases and ethnocentric perception and interpretation of the world around them.
I have more reason to hate Turks than most of my fellow posters here, as I once told you in a private message, My great grandfather and many of my family's males were gathered up and slaughtered by the zeybeks. Even before the Greek army began its advance in 1922. My grandmother who survived this became a refugee 3 times in her life. Do i say that the atrocities of the Greek Army were out of vengeance? Of course I do. Do i justify them? No! Vengeance is EVIL and gives birth to even more evil. Vengeance on vengeance on vengeance....does it ever stop?
In Cyprus, The Turks have done horrible things. I wasn't alive at the time. But as a Cypriot the splitting of my country is a reality I am forced to face since birth.
YET, to say that EVERYTHING was the fault of the Turk, is an infantile approach, of someone who does not have the ability to read, educate him/herself and draw conclusions that are void of pseudo-patriotism and "we against them" attitude.

“Laughing my as* off”

Since: Sep 12

Athens, Greece

#122243 Feb 7, 2013
Aristofanis wrote:
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To KOINWS apodekto DEN EINAI PANTA H ALHTHEIA APLWS eine apodekto EPEIDH ETSI ESYMFWNHSAN MERIKOI NA APODEXWNTAI ORHSMENA PRAGMATA POU POLLES FWRES AGNWOUN THN ENOIA...
H ALHTHEIA EBRHSKETE STHS ELLHNIKES LEXHS
"EN TH LEXH O LOGOS"
H ELLHNIKH GLWSSA EINAI H GLWSSA TOU THEOU KATHE LEXH EINAI KEDHKOS EPOMENOS H ENOIA THS LEXHS EINE KODHKOPOIHMENH ENTOS THS LEXHS!
PANTA me filled prwtheseis....
De diafwnw entelws mazi sou...
To oti prospa8eis na fereis omws ka8e lexh sta Ellhnika einai askopo kai oxi tekmhriwmeno oute episthmonika oute logika...
Protimw na pataw se episthmonika dedomena otan milaw me tous geitones, giati einai kati pou autoi den exoun...

kai panw apo ola eirhnh...

“"Xeretismata stin Merkel"”

Since: Jun 11

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#122244 Feb 7, 2013
_LMAO_ wrote:
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De diafwnw entelws mazi sou...
To oti prospa8eis na fereis omws ka8e lexh sta Ellhnika einai askopo kai oxi tekmhriwmeno oute episthmonika oute logika...
Protimw na pataw se episthmonika dedomena otan milaw me tous geitones, giati einai kati pou autoi den exoun...
kai panw apo ola eirhnh...
Auto prospatho na tou po edo kai poli kairo me ton ena tropo i ton allo.

Oi dipla den exoun na stathoun se tpt pou na eustathei. Mimontas tous (vl Aristofanis) ginomaste ena me autous.

E oxi kai as enantiothoun oloi apenanti mou, den epitrepo sto Tourkoskato kai fyromaimouni na nomizei oti oloi skeftomaste me ton idio tropo. Einai sanna tous epivraveueis kai na dineis kyros sta dika tous paramythia kai diastrevloseis tis istorias.

Alla milontas me ton Aristo kai tous omoious tou, einai sanna rixneis auga tou toixou, i xeirotera, na theleis na skotoseis anthropo rixnontas tou genomena syka.
Bronzilla

ThessalonĂ­ki, Greece

#122245 Feb 7, 2013
NikyT wrote:
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What Turkey, what Turks...
Fr. Fraggoulis
akoma stin 211 eisai ?

:)))))

last page ta leei OLA !!!!!
Poseidon

Tampa, FL

#122246 Feb 7, 2013
BasileusConstantineXI wrote:
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Brickish Cypriot? Ma ti geloios pou eisai.
I am far more educated and eloquent than you will ever be in the span of 3 lifetimes.And I am only 26 years old.
It is but natural that you would feel compromised and it gives me great joy in witnessing your pathetic and ULTIMATELY failed attempts at gaining one-upmanship over your better.
You are miserably deplorable. I pity you.
P.S: Coprolite is of Greek origin (Koprolithos), defining your existence and state of being as shit that got solid enough to resemble a stone that requires immediate extraction. I believe it describes you adequately
Hi Elton, did you think all this before or after I extracted my balls from Uranus?

The only thing compromised is the lining in Uranus. I suggest you mend it with some rope so it can hold real tight next time.

You're a 26 yr old Basileus MalakisteneXXX from a POS island mimicking a Jamaican butler with Brickish accent. That's what I know..

“"Xeretismata stin Merkel"”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#122247 Feb 7, 2013
Kai si re pousti Canadezo, an den exeis lefta agori mou den einai ntropi pes mou to, na sou goraso allo pliktrologio giati profanos exeis spasei to Caps lock me tin lyssa kai mania pou grafeis....

Ante re oust apodo.... tsoli

Den perno sovara tis apopseis ton orfanon/yothetimenon apo alles xwres DITHEN ellinwn.

Kane parea me ton poustidona sou na deite mazi to fos ton "Ellinikon"

mi xeso...

Since: Oct 09

Australia

#122248 Feb 7, 2013
Poseidon se xezei wrote:
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Ti les bre anegefale, kai meta aporeis pou o Aristos sou thn bgainei olo; Didaskeste katw yia ta lathn mas to eikosiduo h sthn epanastash; Re trompeta, prepei na ntrepese. Ekmidenisan ton Ellinismo, eklsepsan patria edafh, kai meta exeis to thrassos na les oti didaskomaste kai paradexomaste ta lathn mas; Poia lathh ore zwntano, to oti irthan oi kanibaloi,ta agria, kai ediwksan ta imera; Kai meta xrisimopoieis kai byzantino pseydonumo.. zartierololita..
u know what i saying? Me tetoious kathigites pou eixes,'no wonder' bgikes keftes..
Gia RWTHSE ton pou HTAN autos o 'ADAMANT' to 1922?
KAI ME TI DIKAIWMA ZHTAEI O KYPRAIOS SYGNWMH APO TON TOURKO GIA TO 1922 afou oute HTAN EKEI oute TOU Perth logos..

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#122249 Feb 7, 2013
King_of_Arabiya 2 wrote:
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Sorry Nina for my comment Nothing personnel hmmmmm...
Do you think that today's Macedonian actually believes that they are Greek hmmmmm
absolutely!!

hm.... would you be more specific how you'd like me to deal with you? you? Please make it clear what exactly you're asking for ?
I have half a mind to ask you again the same question on the other forum how'd you like it? hmmm hehehe
teras!

:)
Poseidon

Tampa, FL

#122250 Feb 7, 2013
_LMAO_ wrote:
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Kai ti proteineis?
Na riksoume enan emfulio na staniaroume?
Oxi, apla na skasoun oles oi politikes pleyres/kosmos na antidikoun kai na koitaksoun to sumferon tous.

“Laughing my as* off”

Since: Sep 12

Athens, Greece

#122251 Feb 7, 2013
BasileusConstantineXI wrote:
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Auto prospatho na tou po edo kai poli kairo me ton ena tropo i ton allo.
Oi dipla den exoun na stathoun se tpt pou na eustathei. Mimontas tous (vl Aristofanis) ginomaste ena me autous.
E oxi kai as enantiothoun oloi apenanti mou, den epitrepo sto Tourkoskato kai fyromaimouni na nomizei oti oloi skeftomaste me ton idio tropo. Einai sanna tous epivraveueis kai na dineis kyros sta dika tous paramythia kai diastrevloseis tis istorias.
Alla milontas me ton Aristo kai tous omoious tou, einai sanna rixneis auga tou toixou, i xeirotera, na theleis na skotoseis anthropo rixnontas tou genomena syka.
Swsta alla den mporeis na stamathseis kapoion apo to na leei oti 8elei se ena anoikto forum...
O ka8enas krinetai kai gia tis dikes tou apopseis pera apo to sullogiko epipedo...
O Aristos pisteuw kata va8os se sumpa8ei gia auto kai kanei etsi mazi sou...
Poseidon

Tampa, FL

#122252 Feb 7, 2013
Aristofanis wrote:
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Gia RWTHSE ton pou HTAN autos o 'ADAMANT' to 1922?
KAI ME TI DIKAIWMA ZHTAEI O KYPRAIOS SYGNWMH APO TON TOURKO GIA TO 1922 afou oute HTAN EKEI oute TOU Perth logos..
Mhn thn psaxneis.. afou ine malakas, sygnwmh zhtaei,

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#122253 Feb 7, 2013
Bronzilla wrote:
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akoma stin 211 eisai ?
:)))))
last page ta leei OLA !!!!!
egw eimai.. sth 221 .. h Niky einai proxwrhmenh :))

“Laughing my as* off”

Since: Sep 12

Athens, Greece

#122254 Feb 7, 2013
Poseidon wrote:
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Oxi, apla na skasoun oles oi politikes pleyres/kosmos na antidikoun kai na koitaksoun to sumferon tous.
S' auto sumfwnw...

“"Xeretismata stin Merkel"”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#122255 Feb 7, 2013
Aristofanis wrote:
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Gia RWTHSE ton pou HTAN autos o 'ADAMANT' to 1922?
KAI ME TI DIKAIWMA ZHTAEI O KYPRAIOS SYGNWMH APO TON TOURKO GIA TO 1922 afou oute HTAN EKEI oute TOU Perth logos..
Oute esi ekei isoun. Oute sena sou peftei logos.

Paene koitaxe na men kapseis to mousaka twra tzai afista debates gia tzinous pou tous perna.

Piso sto mageirio kai svelta
Poseidon

Tampa, FL

#122256 Feb 7, 2013
Bronzilla wrote:
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pou ta eides ta 17K ore patrioti?
ftoxia kai miseria, kathe evdomada eimai ekei
sta alla simfono
Sto wiki..nomizw PPP(to diko tous anebainei, to diko mas katebainei)..

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#122257 Feb 7, 2013
pw pw... basseclassaria

Since: Oct 12

Athens, Greece

#122258 Feb 7, 2013
Bronzilla wrote:
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akoma stin 211 eisai ?
:)))))
last page ta leei OLA !!!!!
H Nina einai sth 221. Egw sthn 385)))))

“"Xeretismata stin Merkel"”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#122259 Feb 7, 2013
Poseidon wrote:
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Sto wiki..nomizw PPP(to diko tous anebainei, to diko mas katebainei)..
Sto wiki!!!!!!!!! HAAAAHAAHAHHAHAHA

Apedo fenete kai to anyparkto morfotiko sou epipedo...e me poious xanno ton kairo mou edwmesa.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#122260 Feb 7, 2013
Poseidon wrote:
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Oxi den xreiazete..
Den nomizw exei kamia sxesh h asunarthsia pou grapse me to an uparxoun Ellines sthn Kupro.
den "yparxoun Ellhnes " sthn Kypro. oi Kyprioi EINAI ELLHNES.

pio Ellhnes apo pollous allous.

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