It is a proxy-war in Syria for a long time

Jul 15, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Russia Taday

Israel, Turkey and NATO support rebels and foreigners from more than 25 countries fighting for Syria's disintegration and the establishment of an Islamist Caliphate instead, journalist Manuel Ochsenreiter, who's extensively covered the conflict, told RT.

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Jul 15, 2013
 
Good article!
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Jul 15, 2013
 
LOL this is russian propoganda , Israel don't support the rebels they just hate the shia.
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Jul 15, 2013
 
WOW!!!
“The rebel, we all witness eating a heart of a killed Syrian soldier was not an extremist, we’re speaking, we are speaking here about so-called “moderate rebel”, he was FSA man, not an El-Nursa Front man”

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Jul 15, 2013
 
If xinhua pick up the story of the Turkish base being used to bomb Syria by Jew murderers then Obama will shit.

I don't think they will , even Assad seems go want to play it down.
After all we've got a war to be won.
Not points to be scored.

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Jul 15, 2013
 
Pashtun Tajik Hazara wrote:
LOL this is russian propoganda , Israel don't support the rebels they just hate the shia.
Why do you hate the Shi'ia Pashtan Tajik
Hazara , nobody disputes Saddam wanted to take advantage of Iran seeming to be down, not the other way around.
Shi'ia in Pakistan don't seem to be an inconvenience , Such is the case all over the place.
Shi'ia were damn near pacifists in Lebanon before Jew pig said they can't hold religious procession.
Mostly Shi'ia just want to be kind.
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Jul 16, 2013
 
True American wrote:
WOW!!!
“The rebel, we all witness eating a heart of a killed Syrian soldier was not an extremist, we’re speaking, we are speaking here about so-called “moderate rebel”, he was FSA man, not an El-Nursa Front man”
A "moderate rebel" cannibal?? LOL!!!
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Jul 16, 2013
 
rtloder wrote:
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Why do you hate the Shi'ia Pashtan Tajik
Hazara , nobody disputes Saddam wanted to take advantage of Iran seeming to be down, not the other way around.
Shi'ia in Pakistan don't seem to be an inconvenience , Such is the case all over the place.
Shi'ia were damn near pacifists in Lebanon before Jew pig said they can't hold religious procession.
Mostly Shi'ia just want to be kind.
Saddam wasn't as bad as Al Ass ad is now...!
Shia kill sunni, most shia are cnuts i hate most shia not all though...!
Shia are zionist jews, shia culture was manufactured by judans against Muslims.
I thought you hate jew pigs, then why do you support shia?

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Jul 16, 2013
 
Ghaznavi wrote:
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Saddam wasn't as bad as Al Ass ad is now...!
Shia kill sunni, most shia are cnuts i hate most shia not all though...!
Shia are zionist jews, shia culture was manufactured by judans against Muslims.
I thought you hate jew pigs, then why do you support shia?

Come on. I am not you , you not going to convince me with personal attitudes you got.
Why would someone who is not part and parcel of family feud want to think like you do .?????.
In a lot of ways the "apogee" of Islam when the division was cemented is two things the highest point , on which everyone agrees, and also the furthered possible distance away from what Islam should be, on which everyone also agrees.
I think Shi'ia is too emotional and is wrong way to pray for Allah can put right what satin make wrong.
But I think often about intercession and Husayn knew it was the greatest treasure we can aspire too.
In a way the Kharijite was wrong and was right.
They was wrong "then" but are right "now".
"Let Allah decide".
Ghaznavi

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Jul 18, 2013
 
rtloder wrote:
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Come on. I am not you , you not going to convince me with personal attitudes you got.
Why would someone who is not part and parcel of family feud want to think like you do .?????.
In a lot of ways the "apogee" of Islam when the division was cemented is two things the highest point , on which everyone agrees, and also the furthered possible distance away from what Islam should be, on which everyone also agrees.
I think Shi'ia is too emotional and is wrong way to pray for Allah can put right what satin make wrong.
But I think often about intercession and Husayn knew it was the greatest treasure we can aspire too.
In a way the Kharijite was wrong and was right.
They was wrong "then" but are right "now".
"Let Allah decide".
You bet it's the wrong way to Pray, they pray to graves!
WTF are you tokking about"they were wrong then but are right now", they're still WRONG, they still follow the same twisted cult duh!
They self harm which is bad enough, but now they're harming others.
Look at this shia in afghanistan self Harming, it's revolting and very WRONG!
http://www.demotix.com/news/539531/ashura-afg...

Apart form self harm the shia in Afghanistan are alright they get along with most sunnis, unlike the shia in Syria who kill sunnis.

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Jul 18, 2013
 
Ghaznavi wrote:
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You bet it's the wrong way to Pray, they pray to graves!
WTF are you tokking about"they were wrong then but are right now", they're still WRONG, they still follow the same twisted cult duh!
They self harm which is bad enough, but now they're harming others.
Look at this shia in afghanistan self Harming, it's revolting and very WRONG!
http://www.demotix.com/news/539531/ashura-afg...
Apart form self harm the shia in Afghanistan are alright they get along with most sunnis, unlike the shia in Syria who kill sunnis.

I ask the Mahdi about this, "over much" emphasis the Shi'ia put on graves, artifacts and shrines , and He said 'Sunni got the cloak of the Prophet ( pbuh) don't they".?.
Further more, He continued "if I was visiting a place and there was a symbol of someone who had passed into Paradise I would go to witness it, as an outing if I had nothing more pressing to do".
I don't know about their ritual.
Maybe they are saying sorrow is the blessing Allah gave Himself when as an aspect of possibility He inflicted sorrow on Self to create a move away from perfection of Station (Fate) to begin the beginning.
But probably not. I don't know about that.
It was as like that in Afghanistan and Pakistan , now in Pakistan Terrorist tactics are becoming more common.
Taliban is becoming al-Qa'eda.
I agree Pakistan was going the same way as Atatürk Turkey, something has to be done , but Shi'ia isn't the problem , secularists is.
Only the Chosen group of Allah's Clergy need to prey the right way .
Everybody else, we don't need to worry.
But Pakistan is going the right way to have the whole Country as right way, stupid terror tactics screw it all up.
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Jul 20, 2013
 
rtloder wrote:
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I ask the Mahdi about this, "over much" emphasis the Shi'ia put on graves, artifacts and shrines , and He said 'Sunni got the cloak of the Prophet ( pbuh) don't they".?.
Further more, He continued "if I was visiting a place and there was a symbol of someone who had passed into Paradise I would go to witness it, as an outing if I had nothing more pressing to do".
I don't know about their ritual.
Maybe they are saying sorrow is the blessing Allah gave Himself when as an aspect of possibility He inflicted sorrow on Self to create a move away from perfection of Station (Fate) to begin the beginning.
But probably not. I don't know about that.
It was as like that in Afghanistan and Pakistan , now in Pakistan Terrorist tactics are becoming more common.
Taliban is becoming al-Qa'eda.
I agree Pakistan was going the same way as Atatürk Turkey, something has to be done , but Shi'ia isn't the problem , secularists is.
Only the Chosen group of Allah's Clergy need to prey the right way .
Everybody else, we don't need to worry.
But Pakistan is going the right way to have the whole Country as right way, stupid terror tactics screw it all up.
Of course we should pray to Allah(swt) FOR those who've passed away, but Shiites are mad they Pray to those who've passed.
Do you not think that is very WRONG!??
Does not Allah(swt) tell us not to harm ourselves??
The Taliban are NOT Al Qaeda, the Al Queada doesn't exist you really do believe everything you read don't ya?
Pakistan would be better under the rule of the Taliban!
So who is the chosen group then?
NO ONE knows who the chosen sunni sect is, we'll have to wait and see.
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Jul 20, 2013
 
Ghaznavi wrote:
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but Shiites are mad they Pray to those who've passed.
Do you not think that is very WRONG!??
Why not? Maybe they're calling ahead for reservations.

Your brain is soaked in religious gobbledegook. I'm telling you, become a Christian evangelist. You'll find it very comfy there.
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Bible sales in turdey 2013 up to 20m !!!!!

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Ghaznavi wrote:
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Of course we should pray to Allah(swt) FOR those who've passed away, but Shiites are mad they Pray to those who've passed.
Do you not think that is very WRONG!??
Does not Allah(swt) tell us not to harm ourselves??
The Taliban are NOT Al Qaeda, the Al Queada doesn't exist you really do believe everything you read don't ya?
Pakistan would be better under the rule of the Taliban!
So who is the chosen group then?
NO ONE knows who the chosen sunni sect is, we'll have to wait and see.
To say then to be consistent the teachers of ibn Wahhab were also apostates, then it is becoming ridiculous.
Sufie is worse than Shi'ia as far as invention goes.
But now something is happening little Jewey is feeling the heat coming from your patrons in Washington.
West is changing back to be negotiator so Qatar is now an embarrassment, yet they stuck with Al-Jazeera.
So Al-Jazeera will have to morph again at be in wilderness.
Hamas is going to be ostracized .
That means you got to shift your s*hit.
And be smart about it.
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Jul 21, 2013
 
rtloder wrote:
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To say then to be consistent the teachers of ibn Wahhab were also apostates, then it is becoming ridiculous.
Sufie is worse than Shi'ia as far as invention goes.
But now something is happening little Jewey is feeling the heat coming from your patrons in Washington.
West is changing back to be negotiator so Qatar is now an embarrassment, yet they stuck with Al-Jazeera.
So Al-Jazeera will have to morph again at be in wilderness.
Hamas is going to be ostracized .
That means you got to shift your s*hit.
And be smart about it.
Sufi are NOT worse than Shia at least Sufi follow the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) Teachings!
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Bronzilla wrote:
Bible sales in turdey 2013 up to 20m !!!!!
Hiristiyan Alevilik Arkadaslik Birligi - Germany 2013
Shut it Goat Herder!!

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MUTANTkillerRusskies wrote:
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Sufi are NOT worse than Shia at least Sufi follow the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) Teachings!

Ibn Taymiyya never said the Shi'ia were not following the Prophet ( pbuh).
He was building unity at there expense,
So was Wahhab.
Since the passing of the first four Caliphs Shi'ia was building unity at the expense of Sunni .
That's just how it was done then .
Then.
Not now , doesn't work now .

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Jul 21, 2013
 
You don't know Sufie.
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rtloder wrote:
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Ibn Taymiyya never said the Shi'ia were not following the Prophet ( pbuh).
He was building unity at there expense,
So was Wahhab.
Since the passing of the first four Caliphs Shi'ia was building unity at the expense of Sunni .
That's just how it was donehttp://www.topix.com/sport s then .
Then.
Not now , doesn't work now .
But they aren't the Shia say Allah(SWT) is stubborn for choosing Muhammad(pbuh) instead of Ali(pbuh), what kind of a muslim say's that?
In the Quran it says follow the Teachings of the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH), and the teachings are the hadeeths which the shia don't follow but criticize, do you UNDERSTAND what i'm saying!?
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Jul 21, 2013
 
rtloder wrote:
You don't know Sufie.
Oh yes I do My cousin's a sufi, I've met many sufis they're very nice and peaceful people.
You obviously don't know sufi.

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