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do turks really believe amer indians are turks?

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mr large

Mansfield, MA

#1 Sep 14, 2012
DNA Study Busts Myth that One Million Appalachians Are of Turkish Descent

For decades, Turkish pseudo-historians and propagandists have made bizarre claims about Turks being the ancestors of various ethnic groups around the world, including Native Americans, African-Americans, and the strangest of all, Melungeons—a little-known group of dark-skinned residents of Appalachia.

To counter Armenian political activities in Washington, the Turkish government regularly reaches out to anyone who could be co-opted with all-expense-paid trips, special gifts, and other financial inducements, including funding studies and conferences on the alleged Turkish origin of Melungeons. Even though these one million Appalachians do not carry much political clout in Congress, Ankara is interested in claiming them to be of Turkish descent, hoping to strengthen its political and economic clout in the United States.

The Turkish initiative faced one “minor” problem: there was no evidence that Melungeons were descendants of Turks. This issue was easily resolved when the Turkish government provided a “research grant” to a Melungeon named N. Brent Kennedy. In April 1995, he flew to Istanbul and wrote a book alleging that hundreds of captured Ottoman sailors were dumped on the shores of North Carolina by Sir Francis Drake in the 16th century!

Kennedy compiled a long list of “amazing” similarities between Turks and Melungeons, such as eating beef and mashed potatoes, the habit of hugging each other, Appalachian quilts having Ottoman designs, Anatolian folk dancers performing square dances, and Turkish music sounding like bluegrass. He discovered that the Turkish word “neyaygara” sounds like Niagara,“dilhah yer” is pronounced Delaware,“tenasuh” means Tennessee,“kan tok” is Kentucky, and “allah bamya” is Alabama.

Kennedy further stated that Turkish scholars have “long believed that a connection existed between themselves and eastern seaboard American Indians, based on both physical appearance and shared words and customs.” He gathered these “important facts” from Turkish “historians” during his meetings at Marmara University in Istanbul.“Several hundred Ottoman sailors could exert a powerful genetic, cultural, and linguistic influence on the 16th-century Native American Tribes into which they married,” Kennedy confidently concluded.

Appalachians, however, were infuriated by the distortion of Melungeons’ ethnic origin and exploitation of their history. Historian and award-winning journalist Tim Hashaw of Houston, Texas, sent a letter asking me to “investigate the tawdry connection between the ATAA (Assembly of Turkish American Associations) and the Melungeon Heritage Association.” Hashaw asserted that “Melungeons are an obscure tri-racial (white, black, and American Indian) community in Appalachia—Virginia and Tennessee. We are not now, nor have we ever been, Turkish. Yet, Melungeons are being wrongly exploited by Turkish associations to deny the Armenian Genocide and to support questionable Turkish agendas in Washington, D.C.”
mr large

Mansfield, MA

#2 Sep 14, 2012
Hashaw revealed in his letter that Turkey “sent gifts such as water fountains (cesme) to those who deny the Armenian Genocide. They have said in the press that they expect our support in Washington, D.C. I kept asking myself: Why is the very influential Turkic World Research Foundation bothering to pay for airfare to send waves of humble Appalachian hill folk from the U.S. to Turkey? We are not a large or affluent people. Why do the president and prime minister of Turkey give personal interviews to Melungeons from Appalachia when they visit? Why are the ATAA and the Istanbul Alumni group paying to send Melungeons to New York in order to honor them in recognition for their services to Turkey?”

Hashaw’s published works regarding the ethnic origins of the Melungeons were validated by a new DNA study published in the Journal of Genetic Genealogy, which disproved the “wild claims” that Melungeons are descendants of Turkish slaves. Instead, the research indicated that they were the offspring of “sub-Saharan African men and white women of northern or central European origin.” Shortly after release of this study, the red-faced leader of a Turkish-American group gave his followers the bad news:“Appalachia’s Melungeons are not Turks”!

Despite the incontestable DNA evidence, incorrigible Turkish propagandists may not be deterred by scientific studies. They will continue to claim that just about everyone on Planet Earth somehow originated from Turks. As Tim Hashaw mockingly wrote:“Abraham Lincoln was a Turk! Elvis Presley was a Turk! American Indians are Turks! Obama’s mama was a Turk! Melungeons were born in the country of the Hatfields and McCoys. The blood feud is in our DNA. The Turks do not know yet, but they will regret bribing greedy ignorant people to deny the Armenian Genocide.”
el salvador

Istanbul, Turkey

#3 Sep 14, 2012
poor armenians being anti Turk never gives a fruit for you, all you get will be hot paprika!!
mr large

Mansfield, MA

#4 Sep 14, 2012
el salvador wrote:
poor armenians being anti Turk never gives a fruit for you, all you get will be hot paprika!!
is it true that turks think the american indians are turkish, how gulen
el salvador

Istanbul, Turkey

#5 Sep 15, 2012
mr large wrote:
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is it true that turks think the american indians are turkish, how gulen
everybody knows that American Indians are Asian origin; i think those people were living near Siberia when the sea never break apart two continents, Even today Asia and North America very close each other so to me their asian oroigin %100 true while their Turk origin at least %80.

http://firstpeoplesofcanada.com/images/fp_pic... (map)_40qual.jpg
el salvador

Istanbul, Turkey

#6 Sep 15, 2012
Dander

Whitemark, Australia

#7 Sep 15, 2012
Indian head gear is made out of TURKEY feathers.
Since Turkey is a native American bird, turks must have originated from America.
House Holder

Istanbul, Turkey

#8 Sep 15, 2012
el salvador wrote:
poor armenians being anti Turk never gives a fruit for you, all you get will be hot paprika!!
Definitely.
About article is written by HARUT SASSOUNIAN
and it takes place in armenian BS internet sites like asbarez and viparmenia.

It also speak for mr large and defines who he really is.

Hopeless..
mr large

Mansfield, MA

#9 Sep 15, 2012
House Holder wrote:
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Definitely.
About article is written by HARUT SASSOUNIAN
and it takes place in armenian BS internet sites like asbarez and viparmenia.
It also speak for mr large and defines who he really is.
Hopeless..
dick holder , feel free to google the information. turkish lobby took it up the ass from greek and isreali lobby in gaming matter. turks made up this insanity trying to justify getting gaming licenses from american indians. who is hopeless. by the way did you see the latest turkish poll i believe which shows only turks like turks. the rest of the world thinks you are butchers.and no i'm not armenian, not one drop
House Holder

Istanbul, Turkey

#10 Sep 15, 2012
mr large wrote:
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dick holder , feel free to google the information. turkish lobby took it up the ass from greek and isreali lobby in gaming matter. turks made up this insanity trying to justify getting gaming licenses from american indians. who is hopeless. by the way did you see the latest turkish poll i believe which shows only turks like turks. the rest of the world thinks you are butchers.and no i'm not armenian, not one drop
Name calling now ? tsk tsk.

The poll you copy pasted ( as usual ) was from a Turkish newspaper called Hurriyet. It is very strange that you follow Turkish newspapers as well armenian marginal internet sites. Dont you think ?

Missed these places ? Well.. Don't.


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In the same article you used , there was a paragraph which also stated that %84 of American like theirselves ( that you deliberately omitted to copy/post.). BTW , US is the 3rd hated country in the world after Israel and Iran. This is a serious poll by BBC . Want a link ? Go and fetch..

Fyg I dont give a flying f**k for a gambling licence.

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A little part of American Indians are of Turkic origin who arrived America through bering channel during the last ice age. There are more than 1/2000 similar words in US native language and present Turkish. Both are Altaic. Read something other than Asbarez or Weekly Armenian. Dont worry, they wont bite you.

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A Melungeon is not necessarily an American Indian, you illeterate desperate fool. The header of the discussion you are trying to start and the article you copy pasted from a BS armenian site does not fit each other. You dont know what you claim and how to defend.
mr large

Mansfield, MA

#20 Sep 15, 2012
House Holder wrote:
<quoted text>
Name calling now ? tsk tsk.
The poll you copy pasted ( as usual ) was from a Turkish newspaper called Hurriyet. It is very strange that you follow Turkish newspapers as well armenian marginal internet sites. Dont you think ?
Missed these places ? Well.. Don't.
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In the same article you used , there was a paragraph which also stated that %84 of American like theirselves ( that you deliberately omitted to copy/post.). BTW , US is the 3rd hated country in the world after Israel and Iran. This is a serious poll by BBC . Want a link ? Go and fetch..
Fyg I dont give a flying f**k for a gambling licence.
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A little part of American Indians are of Turkic origin who arrived America through bering channel during the last ice age. There are more than 1/2000 similar words in US native language and present Turkish. Both are Altaic. Read something other than Asbarez or Weekly Armenian. Dont worry, they wont bite you.
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A Melungeon is not necessarily an American Indian, you illeterate desperate fool. The header of the discussion you are trying to start and the article you copy pasted from a BS armenian site does not fit each other. You dont know what you claim and how to defend.
i didn't delete the melungeon portion so that you wouldn't have a heart attack and tell me i redacted the article. what do i care that a armenian wrote some article. only turks are objective? and yes i like reading all turkish papers including your favorite akp publication zaman which has been critical of the sultan lately. as for the american indian gaming thing , next time i will get your interest in advance. i don't want to bore you but the point is turkey got it up the ass. the israelis are putting the kabasch on turkey
armenian sikenian

Izmir, Turkey

#35 Dec 29, 2012
vardan the armenian mamigonian is still at work:))))))
mr.large,u must have been a raped man by the turks,now that u r whining again hopelessly here.someone kicked your ass in another website. u r really pathetically funny.i can do nothing more than pity u.
NATIVE AMERICANS ARE OF TURKIC DESCENT.
turks have kicked your ass while u were trying to genocide the turks and the kurds in eastern turkiye.usurp that :)

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