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Traveller

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#41 Mar 18, 2013
penttagram wrote:
Here is German eye witness account for you Armenian denialist liar.
-The German Ambassador Wangenheim's Report to His Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 25th of May, 1915-
Armenians have rebelled in Van, attacked to the Muslim villages.Turkish forces stationed at the citadel lost 300 soldiers.
On 17th of May, Armenians have sided with the Russians and started slaughtering Muslims.80,000 Muslims have started to run away towards Bitlis.
Following the mobilization of young men into the army, Armenians started to set Turkish homes on fire.
2500 Muslims were slaughtered by 10.000 Armenians after Van fell.This estimate which does not show any reference is quite conservative even if it only reflects those killed in the city center.More than 10.000 Muslims were killed.
What scholarly book are you getting all this information from ?

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#42 Mar 18, 2013
Armenian denialist diaspora slaves are really laughable.Where are your 1,5 million Armenian victims? When Armenian propaganda started, the number of Armenian losses were 600.000, after 50 years you increased them to 1 million and latest number is 1,5 million and you talk about numbers? Funny.Somehow Armenian victims are magicaly increasing after each decade.

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#43 Mar 18, 2013
Turks Murdered by Armenians in Anatolia between 1914-1922 (The ones that their names and numbers were possible to identify according to offical sources.)

Place, Adana, Antep, Maras, Urfa
Date, 1919-1920
Number of Dead, 708

Place, Agri
Date, 1916
Number of Dead, 14.000

Place, Bayburt
Date, 1920-1921
Number of Dead, 1.967

Place, Diyarbakir, Bitlis
Date, 1915-1916
Number of Dead, 66.566

Place, Erzincan
Date, 1916-1918
Number of Dead, 1.143

Place, Erzurum
Date, 1919-1921
Number of Dead, 35.717

Place, Gumru
Date, 1920
Number of Dead, 500

Place, Kars
Date, 1914-1921
Number of Dead, 82.756

Place, Mus
Date, 1915-1917
Number of Dead, 21.329

Place, Nahcivan
Date, 1919-1920
Number of Dead, 73.919

Place, Trabzon-Ordu
Date, 1916
Number of Dead, 2.103

Place, Van
Date, 1915-1916
Number of Dead, 217.217

Other
Place, Artvin, Izmit, Sakarya, Sivas, Yozgat
Number of Dead, 459

Total
517.955
Traveller

Melbourne, Australia

#44 Mar 18, 2013
penttagram wrote:
What do you know about honest debating??? All you have been doing is avoiding every kind of fact and keep repeating the same thing over and over again.
This thread is about the organized artificial famine. You are the one diverting attention from the topic. If you want to talk about another topic, then create a new thread.

What I am repeating over and over is the topic of the thread, something that you are avoiding.

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#45 Mar 18, 2013
Not from Western Imperialist and Armenian diaspora books which you were washed up by.

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#46 Mar 18, 2013
Diverting attention? I guess someone is getting upset because he is losing a debate.The posts are accurate and related to the subject of this thread.It all heads to the same directionn more or less.

" 300 soldiers ? Big deal! Now you need 517,700 more deaths. "

Typical Armenian denialist mindset.When it comes to murdered Turks, its not a big deal right? 300, 500 even 1000 human beings can die.But everything happened to you should be considered as genocide.According to barbarian Armenian mind set, the 613 civillians genocided by Armenians in Khojaly, Azerbaijan is not a big deal too.Thats the level of your humanity.Spoiled and sheltered barbarians with an identity based on a lie.
Traveller

Melbourne, Australia

#47 Mar 18, 2013
penttagram wrote:
Besides, why do you keep worshipping what that so-called Turkish scholar wrote like its the word of god? They are nothing new.I dont expect someone who lives in EU and received awards from Dutch Royal Academy for what he wrote and possibly funded by Armenian diaspora to give those conferences.
What happened to the properties of people during war time is another subject.
You said there are documents that show the Turks wanted to feed and clothe and protect the Armenians. I said your documents did not reflect the reality on the ground. I then showed you a video where a scholar shows the Turks had contradictory orders. You say the issue of properties is another subject. But the issue here is the existence of contradictory orders, not properties of Armenians. Your documents did not reflect the reality on the ground. There was a private order to destroy the Armenians. That Turkish soldiers prohibited food from reaching the victims is very damning evidence of that.
Traveller

Melbourne, Australia

#48 Mar 18, 2013
penttagram wrote:
Not from Western Imperialist and Armenian diaspora books which you were washed up by.
Tell me which Pro-Turkish books show the German reports. I want to learn about your side of the story.

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#49 Mar 18, 2013
My point proven.Your arguments are weak and you pick a few sentences out of dozens and keep repeating the same thing.I dont really care what that scholar has to say whose salary is paid probably by Armenian diaspora just like Taner Akcam and Robert Fisk.Besides, fabricating fake documents, photo frauds are common tactics of Armenian diaspora.

As long as Armenian archives are not exposed, what your so-called scholars say doesnt concern me that much because I know all they have to offer.Its you and people like you who keeps being in denial of the murders of Dashnak terrorists.At the end of World War I, the offical Ottoman losses were over 2 million, civillian and military combined and you still talk about genocide? Thats a good joke.

Have you ever seen a Jewish armed bandit gang making raids to German villages and murdering German villagers during World War II ? Thats how ridicilous your genocide fairy tale is since you compare what happened to you with what Nazis did to Jews.As long as you dont expose your archives, nothing will change.

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#50 Mar 18, 2013
You want to learn my side of the story? so you admit that Armenians are raised based on one-sided version of it? At least it sounds like that to me.What will change anyway, you will call what I offer as lies of a brainwashed Turk sooner or later.For me you are a brainwashed Armenian, for you I am a brainwashed Turk.So, nothing will change at the end.
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Australia

#51 Nov 18, 2013
penttagram wrote:
You want to learn my side of the story? so you admit that Armenians are raised based on one-sided version of it? At least it sounds like that to me.What will change anyway, you will call what I offer as lies of a brainwashed Turk sooner or later.For me you are a brainwashed Armenian, for you I am a brainwashed Turk.So, nothing will change at the end.
I didn't admit anything. You put words in my mouth. I just want know what books reveal the German reports that support the Turkish version of events. In my view, the secret German military reports have very high credibility and importance. They were your wartime allies after all.

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